A little residual Ingmar

The closest contact I ever had with Ingmar Bergman, so to speak, was a night in 1981 or ’82 when I talked for a long while with Harriet Andersson, who had a relationship with Bergman in the ’50s and starred in various Bergman films of that general period (including Summer With Monika, Sawdust and Tinsel, Through a Glass Darkly) and later costarred in Fanny and Alexander.

There was actually a little more than talking going on. There was enough of an attraction that after 90 minutes or so Andersson suggested that we could perhaps leave the party (some invitational soiree on behalf of Swedish filmmakers that was happening in some cavernous space in Soho or Tribeca) and head uptown and… who knew?
I knew one thing: an attractive middle-aged woman (she was nudging 50 but looked a good ten or twelve years younger) who had once been entwined with the great Ingmar Bergman was now somewhat interested in me. I was certainly flattered. If you believe that lovers pass along certain particles and auras to each other and that these are somehow absorbed and become part of who and what they are for the rest of their lives, I was thinking that on some ethereal level I might absorb a little residual Ingmar.
But instead of grabbing a cab, Andersson arranged for us to ride uptown in a limo with a group of her Swedish film industry friends, including actor Erland Josephson, who had starred in several Bergman films himself including Hour of the Wolf, The Touch, Cries and Whispers and Scenes from a Marriage. There were five or six of us crammed into the back seat, and it was only a matter of ten or twelve seconds before they all realized what was going on and starting making joke after joke. In Swedish, of course, but translations were unnecessary.
The mockery and the giggling and the howling went for two or three minutes, but it felt like a non-stop barrage to me. I tried to smile and be a good sport at first, but after a minute or so my eyes froze over. I distinctly remember Josephson being the worst of them. He was slightly in his cups and looking at me with a certain fiendish glee as he let go with one derisive snort after another. The import, more or less, was “Hah!…you worthless nobody!…you think you are good enough to lie down with Harriet?…think again!”
By the time we were let off at Andersson’s hotel at 59th Street and 7th Avenue, I was on the verge of vomiting. It was all I could do to say “very nice meeting you” to Andersson before turning and walking off. She’d been howling along with the rest of them, after all. Nice.

30 thoughts on “A little residual Ingmar

  1. Yeah, Jeff, but in all the years since, I bet there hasn’t been a week in your life when you haven’t wondered: Maybe I should have tried to boff her anyway.
    Trust me: I feel that way whenever I remember how Oprah Winfrey flirted with me at the junket for The Color Purple.

  2. maybe they were laughing with you?
    as in: hey erland, this young man will be having the sex tonight, ya?
    erland: he looks like a lamb to slaughter, no? he will find out that andersson is a vamp caution, ya?

  3. I find it moderately funny that Jeffrey is seen as an exhibitionist when talking about a story that resulted in a threesome, but no one complains when he ends up humiliated. I for one would like more film related personal stories. This one was pretty cool. But MAN, you should have had the last laugh, Jeff!

  4. Wells to alynch: The intent in writing this recollection was to convey 70% humor and 30% bitterness. Actually, make it 65-35. No, 75-25. Wait…

  5. Hook-ups in and of themselves make for dull reading. The reasons and circumstances that lead up to them, however, can be fascinating. That said, comparing a porn-star hookup in the early ’80s to what I’ve written here is like comparing maggot-covered carrion to a finely prepared Chateaubriand.

  6. yeah, wells, you’re right: in my instance I was the finely prepared Chateaubriand, and in your instance you were the maggot-covered carrion.
    just sayin’…
    looks like you’re much more bitter than you led on here :)

  7. t.holly, i’ve never once insulted you here, unless you consider a joke about bergman filming a teen comedy as a personal attack.
    and my life is filled with exciting days, one of which just happened at the double feature of THE PARTY and SKIDOO with blake edwards in person…
    are you this dour outside the blogosphere?

  8. christian,
    it appears that the mere mention of *porn star* within this blog turns up the snob level, for whatever reason. And all this time I’ve been told that liberals are more inclusive…
    nice.

  9. sadly i learned in the 80′s that some liberals can be just as cruel, mean-spirited and filled with intolerance as conservatives. it’s why i despise the daily kos, a site run by a former republican reaganite who uses bannings and “concern troll” insults to limit debate.
    there, i said it. but then, i’m real liberal.

  10. True story. A guy I know picks up a porn mag and his friend, another guy I know says, “you seen one, you seen ‘em all,” so my first friend says, “yeah, but I’ve never seen THAT ONE before.”

  11. I would’ve enjoyed the 5 hour version of SCENES FROM A MARRIAGE more if Erland Josephson hadn’t creeped me out so much. My girlfriend absolutely hated him. But I guess that was the point. But I loved the story, Jeff, It could be in your book that you should eventually write, sort of an Anthony Bourdain-type yarn. Do it.

  12. Yes christian, they have exciting lives. The point is, that I respect anyone with a collector’s devotion an an artist’s eye who knows he hasn’t seen “that one” before. But porn in-and-of-itself and any mention of it on this thread is like comparing cawing cactus wren to cooing turtle doves, even if it didn’t have a happy ending.

  13. george,
    seriously, I’m not trying to be mean, but jeff just isn’t that skilled a writer. he’s ok, but I’ve yet to read anything by him that was intellectually provocative.
    no offense, jeff, but it’s true. further, I feel you were MUCH better in your mr. showbiz days, so much less nonsensically acerbic, more optimistic, more *hip*, more, well, just more. maybe it’s time to switch gears?

  14. as always t. holly, you have the right to your opinion, and I have the right to mine, and christian the right to his.
    but more to the point, why are you so frightened by porn? what happened?

  15. I would’ve enjoyed the 5 hour version of SCENES FROM A MARRIAGE more if Erland Josephson hadn’t creeped me out so much. My girlfriend absolutely hated him. But I guess that was the point. But I loved the story, Jeff, It could be in your book that you should eventually write, sort of an Anthony Bourdain-type yarn. Do it.

  16. Mitch, it’s very simple. The girls aren’t climaxing and it’s sex ed. It’s not very difficult to form ohh out of oww.

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