Beowulf animation
The Envelope‘s Tom O’Neil wrote earlier today to ask for a quote about the Best Animated Feature race as it looks now. His piece just went up, but here’s my summation in my own words: Ratatouille is the front-runner but the matter of Beowulf‘s classification is far more interesting.
I’ve seen most of the 3D Beowulf product reel that played at Comic-Con, and the digital work has convinced me that it’s the most out-there and avant-garde-ish animated stuff I’ve seen in ages — far more so than Richard Linklater‘s Waking Life or A Scanner Darkly, and way in front of Robert Zemeckis‘s Polar Express.
Here’s how I wrote it…
“By far the best animated film of the year so far is Ratatouille — forget the Simpsons, forget Shrek the Third, and, given the indications so far, it’s hard to think of Jerry Seinfeld‘s Bee Movie as any kind of serious Ratatouille competitor. Look at the new one-sheet, listen to Seinfeld discussing it in Cannes….draw your own conclusions.
“Ratatouille rules because it says something that is true and generous that everyone recognizes as true (or wishes were true), which is that not anyone can be an artist but that art can come from anywhere. To an Academy person, this could be taken to mean that an electrician or a makeup artist or a bit player can write a screenplay or direct a film that everyone will love or which might even win awards. That is music to the Academy’s Unwashed Masses, and this is why Ratatouille has, at this stage, the clear lead. Apart from the fact that it’s one of the best and brightest animated films ever.
“But the most interesting animated film so far is Beowulf, which I saw a reel of footage from yesterday. Projected in 3D, it looked to me like the trippiest and most absorbing animated footage I’ve seen in ages, although it may not, according to the Academy’s “Rule Seven,” be an animated film. ‘May’, I say.
“Beowulf is a real eye-popper and clearly something other than the realm of animation. Each and every frame is ‘animated’ by any standard of digital recomposition, and yet the Academy seems to be saying that any film that begins with live-action performance and then uses digital animation to enhance or augment that performance (like, say, Linklater’s two above-named films) is not eligible. Again — this is not the final word.
“The animation in Beowulf, which isn’t “animation” at all, is definitely painterly, and at the same time it’s obviously not unvarnished reality. And yet it began at the core as live-action footage of the actors (Ray Winstone, Anthony Hopkins, Angelia Jolie, etc.) shot in a room full of sensors that captures their performance in a bare-bones, Samuel Beckett style at Culver Studios in early ’06.
“Rule Seven of the Academy rules regarding Best Animated Feature film say that a contender has to be “a motion picture of at least 70 minutes in running time, in which movement and characters’ performances are created using a frame-by-frame technique. In addition, a significant number of the major characters must be animated, and animation must figure in no less than 75 percent of the pictures running time.”
Beowulf screenwriter Roger Avary is calling the 3-D Beowulf “digitally-enhanced live action”. It’s also, in my view and without question, animation. It’s also mind-blowing. I loved it. I can’t wait to see the whole feature.
Beowulf, says Avary, is “enhanced live action” and as such is “closer to Ralph Bakshi‘s painting over cells, the rotoscoping of 2-D imagery, even though Beowulf is about the rotoscoping of 3-D imagery. The 3-D version will be the largest 3-D release of all time. It will be released also in Real-D, a new 3D process, and IMAX 3-D.
“More and more, the differences between animated and real-life action is starting to blur. The form is changing, and rather than limit actors with this technology, Zemeckis is actually trying to figure out a way that can broaden what an actor can do.. He want to make sure it’s about performance…this is the first time that the technology doesn’t get in the way…it’s technology allowing you to fall deeper in the performance.”
Excellent piece of writing, Jeff. Glad you liked what you’ve seen so far of BEOWULF. I’m looking forward to it for exactly the same reasons you are – a mind-blowing, NEW experience.
“A hundred years hence, film historians will look back at the epic-quest CG fantasy fanboy-adventure genre (Arthurian comic-book fables, other-worldly milieus, mind-blowing visuals, Joseph Campbell-esque heroes in their 20s, constant insinuations and threats from all-powerful reptilian villians, relentless physical combat or sword-fight scenes, gah-gah finales) and be absolutely agog that tens of millions went to these films over and over again for decades (geek culture has sprayed shorts over these films since Star Wars opened 30 years ago) without making a peep about how oppressively similar they were from year to year, decade to decade.”
- Jeff Wells, two days ago
“I loved it. I can’t wait to see the whole feature.”
-Jeff Wells, today
So what, americanrat?
“Do I contradict myself? I contain multitudes.” – Walt Whitman
Having seen the footage at Con, and in 3D, I’ll say there’s zilch avant-garde about it. I liked it, but it’s attempting to very closely mimic reality. It’s photo-realism taken to the next possible tech level.
By which I mean it’s technically innovative, but in the usual sense of avant-garde – artistically innovative – they’re not even going there.
Sad to say, but even with Neil Gaiman writing, I’m none too excited about this. Same with a lot of sequential comic art:
The more realistic the art trys to be, the more it takes you out of the story. And watching the trailer for this, I just think video game trying to fake real.
I do like the effort though. (Bring back hand-drawn!)
iamjoe, I’m with you . . . my first thought was that this thing looked like a feature-length cut scene. After everything they’ve gone through, it doesn’t look any better than that Final Fantasy movie that game out seven years ago.
“The Simpsons” is a more of a contender than Wells realizes, but then again, he dismissed the movie before it even came out (has he even seen it?).
“Ratatouille” is definitely the front-runner, but it’s hard to ignore a few things:
1) Simpsons’ $74 million opening weekend
2) The Simpsons’ popularity with basically all of humanity (except for Wells, and yes, I’m exaggerating here, but only a little)
3) The fact that Brad Bird has already won an Oscar, which may encourage voters to give it to someone else
4) The disputable fact that for some people “The Simpsons” is a more fun movie than “Ratatouille”
“Beowulf,” on the other hand, looks interesting… but please. If “The Polar Express” couldn’t nab an Animated Film nomination, I doubt “Beowulf” will be able to suddenly pull off a win.
The Beowulf footage was underwhelming to me and Ratatouille is indeed the front-runner and I’m confident (with the wee-bit of confidence I have remaining in the academy) will win.
Er.. hello? You’re judging a 3D movie by a 2D trailer. That’s like listening to opera with your hands over your ears.
Which is how most people prefer to listen to opera.
The Simpsons Movie’s Oscar chances will be hurt by one big thing: perception that it’s just a big version of the TV show.
A certain degree of percentages has to enter into this. The people are all mo-capped in Beowulf, and Jolie etc. with the little balls glued to their faces makes for a fun publicity still, but you can’t tell me there isn’t a LEGION of animators tweaking stuff and playing with the physics of even the people, nevermind all the animals and environments.
There’s a lot more “physical performance” in animation, especially American animation, than people realize. Hell, the Academy gave Walt Disney a special oscar for Snow White and most of the humans in THAT were realize by Rotoscoping (drawing and painting an “animated” figure over filmmed frames of a live actor.)
to Ian Sinclair: Oh I see, so my experience is wasted unless I watch it on Imax but why do that when I get the same s hit from the latest PS3 game in my living room.
I’d watch Ratatouille on Imax, at least that film knows it’s animated.
The film you’ve left out of the Oscar equation is Sony Pictures Classics’ PERSEPOLIS (opening Christmas Day). This adaptation of Marjane Satrapi’s graphic novel is honest, artful (hand drawn 2-D animation – in black & white, with French dialogue) and an achievement in animated storytelling aimed at adults. I’ve seen it and it is certainly a dark horse – but a strong competitor nontheless.
Then again, never underestimate Academy voters. Based on past experience, THE SIMPSONS MOVIE also has a good shot at the gold guy.
Considering how there was a huge discussion about whether this film could be included as one of the possible movies of interest this fall, and that Wells went on record saying he had absolutely no interest in the film on any level whatsoever the Comicon screening must have been hugely effective. I had this as my most anticipated film of the year until I saw the horrible trailer, but still maintain a slight interest even now.
I think the only reasons I’d like The Simpsons to win are that it’s 2-d, and it’s PG-13. Though I really wish Paprika could be in the running.
Okay, even if Beowulf is eligible, how many of the Academy members are going to seek it out in 3D? If that’s where a lot of it’s visual power is, then in 2D it may not be as impressive (a la Polar Express)…
Anyhow, I think that The Simpsons is the dark horse here. I love Ratatouille (which is the better film), but history is with The Simpsons – the Academy might not be able to resist giving a cultural icon its seal of approval.
The Simpsons? An Oscar? Yeah right. It may have credibility with Emmy voters but I still think the Academy is going to look down their noses at it, and rightfully so. You’re talking about a program that has occasionally witty satire in it, but is mostly filled with slapstick. There’s nothing original about it at all, and it’s barely a shadow of its peak years. Also, not to sound like a snob, but artistically it has little merit, even within the field of animation.
Ratatouille, on the other hand, has a great, moving script, and has been animated with a lot of imagination and craft. There’s no fucking comparison. It only loses points to The Simpsons by being less funny, and I don’t think that’s #1 in the minds of the voters.
You’re forgetting that the Academy could easily have awarded the crowd-pleasing Lilo & Stitch over the severely underpromoted Spirited Away, but they didn’t. And Lilo was a lot fresher at the time than The Simpsons, and had a healthy $150 million box office total. Ratatouille has just as much critical acclaim this year as Miyazaki’s masterpiece did, and the difference is that the Rat is going to have much more in its coffer to go with its stamp of approval.
It doesn’t matter that it’s Brad Bird again, I think to most in the Academy it’s another Pixar film more than anything else, and they can be looked at as owed after losing for Cars last year.
Beowulf will be presented in the new Real D in digital theaters as well as in IMAX 3D, so the Academy screenings will be in 3D. Only theaters without digital projectors will be forced to run a 2D version.
Incidentally, Stephen Spielberg has patented a 3D camera that will project onto a plasma screen: no 3D glasses are required.
Iazarus, I definitely think “Ratatouille” is the one to beat… I just think we shouldn’t automatically count “The Simpsons” out. Strange things can happen at the Oscars, and I think it would be foolish to say it doesn’t have a shot.
Reasons agains the Simpsons:
1 – When the race starts nearly every article on animation will point out that the movie is not very different to a few episodes of the tv show put together and shot in scope.
2 – Same articles will point out that is likable as the movie is not it’s not as good as the show was at its prime, so academy members will keep hearing that not only they are voting for TV they are voting for TV that used to be better on TV.
3 – How lousy is the track reccord for animation whose main target is not kids anyway? Prety awful.
If I were an academy member I’d vote Ratatouille for best original screenplay. The writing has that rare Billy Wilder quality to it, at once classical in form, but also sardonic, and at times acidic.
Okay, even if Beowulf is eligible, how many of the Academy members are going to seek it out in 3D? If that’s where a lot of it’s visual power is, then in 2D it may not be as impressive (a la Polar Express)…
Anyhow, I think that The Simpsons is the dark horse here. I love Ratatouille (which is the better film), but history is with The Simpsons – the Academy might not be able to resist giving a cultural icon its seal of approval.
“Which is how most people prefer to listen to opera.
The Simpsons Movie’s Oscar chances will be hurt by one big thing: perception that it’s just a big version of the TV show.”
Which it is — and I say that as someone who liked the movie. Unless there’s some other great, unknown animated film opening later this year I don’t see how Ratatouille can lose.
Oh, and I prefer to listen to opera when I’m unconscious.
What is it about RATATOUILLE that sets off all the pretentious splooging?
“If I were an academy member I’d vote Ratatouille for best original screenplay. The writing has that rare Billy Wilder quality to it, at once classical in form, but also sardonic, and at times acidic.”
I was sure you were going to say soupcon somewhere in there. As it was, I almost shot myself in the face. It’s a good movie. We get it. You guys are going to hurt it if you don’t stop.
“The animation in Beowulf, which isn’t “animation” at all, is definitely painterly, and at the same time it’s obviously not unvarnished reality. And yet it began at the core as live-action footage of the actors (Ray Winstone, Anthony Hopkins, Angelia Jolie, etc.) shot against a green screen in bare-bones, Samuel Beckett style at Culver Studios in early ’06.”
So, why all the hostility for 300? Was it the theme of the movie itself? Because from this paragraph, it obviously had nothing to do with the way it was filmed.
“I loved it. I can’t wait to see the whole feature.”
Ah, now I understand. Who are you, and what have you done with Jeffrey Wells?
Once again, this issue comes up because the Academy created a category for Animated Film when one wasn’t needed. As the line between “animated” and “real” becomes more and more blurred, and we’ve really only seen the tip of the iceberg of where this is all going, the definitions will continue to be redefined, or need to be.
Personally I watched the Beowulf trailer and kept thinking, “why?”, why film real people doing real things and then animate them? I can see it if significant changes are needed, such as making a human into an alien for example, or if the director is going for a certain artistic style, as in a Scanner Darkly. But if the animated Anthony Hopkins looks JUST LIKE the real Anthony Hopkins… what’s the freakin’ point?
Ian, regarding Spielberg, it’s Steven, not Stephen.
I’m not anal retentive, but I noticed it right away…same goes for when people misspell Stephen King’s the other way.
This is actually a strong year for animated film, with the previously mentioned Ratatouille, The Simpsons, and the upcoming Persepolis. There is also Shrek The Third, TMNT, Surf’s Up, Meet The Robinsons, Aqua Teen Hunger Force Colon Movie Film for Theaters, Bee Movie and Happily N’Ever After.
Unfortunately, not enough to get more than 3 noms again. But, I could see them making a good argument that could exclude Beowulf.
It kills me, tho, that Paprika and Tekkonkinkreet are probably going to be considered ineligible, since they were released in Japan late last year. It is sad when some films have no chance because of the misfortune of when they were released.
Personally, I think Aqua Teen Hunger Force Colon Movie Film For Theaters is the best animated movie of the year.
I believe I am alone in this crusade.
jeff’s tastes are so confounding and adaptable…
BEOUWOLF looks absolutely underwhelming. not one shot nor image holds magic nor depth or even epic painterly vision — of course, this is based solely on the trailer i saw.
like most geeks have pointed out, it looks like a video game cut scene or an amalgamation of 300 and LOTR. i’ll wait for the film to decide, but i’ll take the squiggling beauty of WAKING LIFE over this anyday.
When are you people going to learn that deserves has nothing to do with the Oscars?
Will it take ‘The Simpsons’ movie beating ‘Ratatouille’?
I’d take that bet right now. ‘The Simpsons’ will win best animated feature, because it’s ‘The Simpsons’. Everybody in Hollywood loves ‘The Simpsons’.
That’s a guarantee.
lazarus, the only reason “Spirited” won was because it was because it was up against 4 different Hollywood productions, essentially splitting the major studio vote. If it had faced only two other nominees (like in every other year the category’s existed), it would have suffered the same fate as “Triplets of B” & “Howl’s MC”, despite being clearly the best of the bunch.
I’d say the Pixar is the front-runner, but don’t underestimate how people might be a little tired of awarding Pixar every year (witness the rather atrocious win for “Happy Feet” last year). Fair? Not really, but I do think the Simpsons are going to face an equally unfair prejudice: that it’s just a TV show writ large (though it’s an argument not without merit).
We’ll see…
“lazarus, the only reason “Spirited” won was because it was because it was up against 4 different Hollywood productions, essentially splitting the major studio vote”
That’s specious reasoning. Two of those nominees were “Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron” and “Treasure Planet”. “Lilo and Stitch” had the Disney backing, so nobody cared about “Treasure Planet”, and I don’t even need to give a reason why nobody cared about the horse movie.
“Spirited Away” won because neither “Ice Age” nor “Lilo and Stitch” was the clear favorite. If the Oscars released percentages, I’d bet that “Spirited Away” won with less than 40% of the total votes cast. But it had nothing to do with the 4th and 5th slots. As in all other Oscar categories, the 4th and 5th nominees are just filler with no chance of winning. (Usually, it’s actually three with no chance of winning.)
Ian, regarding Spielberg, it’s Steven, not Stephen.
I’m not anal retentive, but I noticed it right away…same goes for when people misspell Stephen King’s the other way.
Beowulf is going to be a really interesting disaster. It’s a misconcieved film from the get go, and the you could feel the wave of indifference in Hall H at Comic Con. After seeing Back to the Future at the New Bev last night, it’s really sad to think about the new Zemeckis, the guy obsessed with the stupidest new gimmick around, motion capture. It’s never going to look like anything but a really fancy video game cut scene. There were a lot of assholes that said 300 looked like that, and they were people that have never played video games, but that’s exactly what this film looks like. And who wants to watch that? You don’t even get to play after sitting through it.
Curiously, the Anthony Hopkins cartoon/avatar/whatever in the still above looks like a sandblasted Hummel figurine. I am anxiously awaiting the Precious Moments Beowulf Collectibles.
TheLongShot: They’re only ineligible if they were released on home video, and that hasn’t happened with TK. Paprika already got screened in L.A. County last year, but the Academy decided to exclude that Besson troll flick, so its chances were dashed as well. If you want to see a real screw-up, find about Dreamworks’ marketing campaign for Millennium Actress. Hint: There wasn’t any campaign.
As for Lilo vs Spirited Away, I actually think that was one of the few times the Academy got it right. The former was just another gimmicky song-and-dance cash-in from the Mouse House, while the latter placed more emphasis on the story and characterization. Ice Age’s problem is that The Land Before Time already did the same thing.
“Curiously, the Anthony Hopkins cartoon/avatar/whatever in the still above looks like a sandblasted Hummel figurine. I am anxiously awaiting the Precious Moments Beowulf Collectibles.”
I’d actually like to see an animated movie in which Hummel figures beat the fucking shit out of Precious Moments figures. I hate those miserable little fuckers.
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