Wright at W.H.

Visual proof was revealed earlier today that Bill and Hillary Clinton were at least casually infected with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright virus when the Chicago minister visited the White House on 9.11.98 for a gathering for religious leaders. The Huffington Post is reporting that Hillary, “according to her recently-released schedule for the day, was also present at the gathering.” Inviting a seething hate-monger to this event obviously reflects on the flawed character and judgment of the Clintons.

77 thoughts on “Wright at W.H.

  1. Sorry Jeff but that image does not trump this image. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72B3tUAqpo4 No matter how much you denie it .This is what will change the minds of those who first sided with Barak after his “Race Speach”. Obama baggage is getting heavier by the second. Even MSNBC won’t beable to stop this tide change. Plus the hypocrisy of that photo is that Barak’s camp released the photo according to the NYT.

  2. Hmm….interesting….Hillary & Rezko; Bill and Rev. Wright. No wonder they aren’t making comments about Rev. Wright and Obama.

  3. Hmm….interesting….Hillary & Rezko; Bill and Rev. Wright. No wonder they aren’t making comments about Rev. Wright and Obama.

  4. Hmm….interesting….Hillary & Rezko; Bill and Rev. Wright. No wonder they aren’t making comments about Rev. Wright and Obama.
    To Josh: You haven’t been in a black church have you? That type of speech or sermon that Rev. Wright gave is quite prominent every Sunday. You have fiery preachers who talk about what America isn’t or is doing, they can get very political. I invite you to attend a black church – preferably Christian or Baptist – and see for yourself. Rev. Wright is in a line of old time Black preachers. Where I come from — Detroit, they were quite well known and quite powerful. Even Aretha Franklin’s father Rev. Cecil Franklin was very fiery and he was a civil rightist. So Rev. Wright in the black community is quite typical.

  5. I’m not sure how Clinton meeting Wright for probably about two minutes compares to Obama being so close to him for 20 years.

  6. I’m not sure how Clinton meeting Wright for probably about two minutes compares to Obama being so close to him for 20 years.

  7. Oh, Todd and all the racists are gonna come out. No doubt about that. No doubt Todd’s own preacherman is a model of enlightenment and moderation. Ha ha ha ha ha. And Todd can’t spell. And we all know the racism is gonna fly thick and heavy for a very long time because the orangutans have plenty of food in this country, and they are feeling vigorous.
    Gosh darn America. Dang America. Oh pshaw America. Fools be everywhere.
    If the Rev. Wright could have made his points (nobody is really paying attention to the details are they?) in a moderate and rational tone, there would be nothing to complain about. We could discuss the problems and consider what to do about them. Oh wait, Obama is doing that.
    Preachers everywhere are doing the disservice. Obama is not. Quite the contrary.

  8. Just an FYI I’m not white. Just bringing up points some don’t want to see. I guess my spelling errors make my vote and opinion count less though. NOT

  9. Mr Muckle, I’m paying close attention to the details. It doesn’t matter what tone you use when you say “The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color.” It’s ignorant and irresponsible. What good can come of telling people such lies? Are they meant to leave his congregation inspired? Inspired to do what?

  10. Well, I haven’t paid that much attention to the details myself. I can’t stand preachers that rant and rave, no matter what color they are. I just watched some of the youtube that Todd linked to and heard something like “America is damned because it killed innocent people and doesn’t care . . .” I can see the sense in that. It doesn’t matter what personal opinions are about it, there is karma involved. We reap what we sow.
    In the last analysis we’re all associated with everyone else, however distantly, so guilt by association condemns the lot of us. I don’t see how we can proceed on that basis. I think we should evaluate Obama based on Obama and not on whatever crackpot connections we try to hang on him. Crackpots are everywhere. I’ve seen them on TV!

  11. Just a declaration of where I stand. I was hoping Edwards would get the nomination. Since that did not happen I wanted Clinton next. I never fell for the BS Obama was selling. Hillary is not Bill, Bill is not Hillary.That fact does not escape me. Obama’s hypocrisy has always been a bigger issue for me than any other of the candidates. Big Brother media is pumping the Obama v. McCain contest. Ask yourself why?

  12. Hey Todd. If you’re not a racist, good on ya. I think the youtube clip was irrational, though. I liked Biden myself (sans the credit card biz).
    I agree with you, Bill is not Hillary, Hillary is not Bill. Very good. Obama is not Rev. Wright either. Obama is Obama. If you extend that courtesy to Hill, you must do the same to O.
    I’m not an expert on him because basically I despise the way politics are carried out and try to keep my distance. But from a distance, I think there is a chance he is sincere in his approach and not a hypocrite. I also think he is very much more broadminded and inclusive than the typical pol, including Hillary.
    And one of the thing that distresses me most now is the contempt in which we are held by much of the world because of our politics. So I think Obama has a chance to say something positive about us to them, that will not be said by ________ (fill in the blank).

  13. “I’m not sure how Clinton meeting Wright for probably about two minutes compares to Obama being so close to him for 20 years.”
    Oh, pretty much the same way Donald Rumsfeld shaking Saddam Hussein’s hand back when he was an unabashed Soviet client turns into proof in D.Z.’s mind that we created, backed and armed Saddam.
    It is amusing to watch the Democrats tear each other apart with this hysterical stuff for a change. Check out Barbara Ehrenreich’s piece about The! Cult! Hillary! Belongs! To! at the Huffandpuff today.

  14. Todd, that youtube clip was just splicing Obama’s words betwixt Wright’s fiery rhetoric. I don’t like Wright’s language, but his tradition is true and there is a message under the rage.
    But most religions, yes, including the Islamic one, preach division. The fundamentalists who are presently in charge now and those who were in the Reagan Years preached and practiced quiet, self-righteous anger, couched in more disturbing social/racial implications and damning people to HELL for sinning, or not believing. What kind of unholy speechifying is that? Who should that inspire? And look at the results.

  15. Like it or not every election has swayed voters with the images like those on the youtube site. Whether it be factual or not. That is why big corporations seek to control the media. I never believe it is about Elephants and Donkeys. It’s about which wealth factor influences the way government contracts are rewarded and what laws intrude on their business of making a profit. PERIOD. The best the little guy can hope for is that out of all of this they can make an adequate living by having the oportunity for a good education (so they can spell) and have the ability to have their health care needs taken care. Lets spend our tax dollars on improving american lives first. What a concept I know.

  16. I guess it was too good to be true that America would elect a reasonable, noble person for office. The Democrats are clearly able to lose when following the biggest bozo on the world stage in my lifetime, even to a man who thinks Iran trains Al Qaida, is against universal health care and follows a policy that has sent the nation plunging into an economical nightmare that will take decades to solve. That’s what one gets when paying attention to the wrong things. The chickens are indeed coming home to roost

  17. Honestly, guys, that video’s content just murdered Obama. It’s not a well-made video. But the content in it just murdered him in the general election. Period.
    The GOP will use the following against him:
    1) Refused to say The Pledge.
    2) Refused to wear a flag pin.
    3) Refused to completely disown Wright.
    4) Wright’s words.
    5) Wife doesn’t think highly of America.
    He is dead as a general election candidate. If The Democrats run him they will lose.

  18. Actually, I think all this proves is that Wright didn’t mind the US of KKK when it sent him an invite. He looks very adoring of Clinton on that pic. Surely the man wasn’t that bad when the good reverend was able to swallow back the bile.

  19. BTW, I see that Mr Clean and Pure Politics released the photo? Where is the outrage? Or was it all spent on the picture of Obama dressed in Muslim-like garb?

  20. I’m sorry, MAGGA, I missed where it was noble and reasonable to believe that white Americans like me are part of a vast evil conspiracy to keep black Americans down, in part by electing a government which creates special viruses to kill them, when not enslaving them with “middleclassness.”
    The sad part of this is that millions of well-meaning whites who were looking forward to electing the first black president are now becoming convinced that the whole community is crazy with this talk– and certainly not safe to be put in the ultimate position of power over other races. If that’s what they think I’m capable of, what are they capable of in (what they believe to be) return?

  21. How naive and in the closet does a person have to be not to know the kind of crazy talk that goes on in this country? Anyone actually surprised by that has their head in the sand in the first place, so what does their opinion about it matter? Why not let’s be rational instead?
    So, what is the origin of HIV? Fuck if I know. George Bush certainly doesn’t know.
    Do I care if anyone wears a flag pin? Fuck no. I think it’s stupid.
    Can anyone control a wife in America? Hell no.
    What does it mean to “completely disown” someone? Hogwash. You disown the ideas, maybe the person will grow out of them. 98% of preachers are lunatics anyway.
    The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag is a pile of shit. There are vastly more profound allegiances one must uphold as a human being, most of which are immeasurably beyond the majority population of the United States.
    I’m too radical to be a Democrat or a Republican, but sometimes I vote anyway.

  22. “It doesn’t matter what tone you use when you say “The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color.”
    Well, then, I guess he just shoulda done like the white preachers and said God created it to kill the gays.
    God the fear and hate on display is sickening.

  23. Good point, storymark.
    Sorry if I’m posting too much, I don’t like to do that. It must be spring.
    The Rev. Wright is obviously not the most rational and articulate of men, but we have a chance to think it through more clearly. HIV in humans, as far as I know current scientific opinion, jumped from primate species that were eaten by people in Africa. Yes, no? Not deliberately created in a lab to wipe anyone out.
    But what can be rightfully questioned is government policy concerning AIDS since then. There is no doubt that the response of predominantly white people in political power in the U.S., who don’t feel particularly threatened by it, has long been lackadaisical and uninterested in the people who ARE primarily threatened by it, predominantly poorer people of color in various countries and gays.
    Rev. Wright skirts along the fringes of a truth that he largely forsakes for the purpose of emotionally creating an effect in his congregation. A great many preachers, politicians, and other entertainers do the same thing.
    Obama is much smarter than that and I don’t think that’s the type of person he is. Otherwise, I’d say kick him to the curb with all the others.

  24. Wright is the least of his problems. This country will never elect a president for whom there is video/photographic evidence that he boycotted saying The Pledge, refused to wear a flag pin, and his wife is openly dismissive of the country.
    It doesn’t matter whether I’m offended by these things (I’m not), but the general population will be. The GOP will portray him as an America-hater. A “blame-America-first liberal.”
    Look at this in as objecting a frame as you can. That candidate cannot get elected president.

  25. I get your point, mutinyco. Obviously, I don’t have a high opinion of the intelligence of the electorate, but at some point it’s possible (actually it’s required) that we will begin to discriminate between reality and propaganda. Anyone who still thinks that the GOP is the “America-loving” party, after what it’s done to the country and the world, probably requires a helper monkey to operate the remote control to their TVs.
    If you’re a supporter of the GOP, sorry. It isn’t personal, IT’S POLITICS! Ha ha ha har de har. I’m sorry we’re stuck with both these parties, actually. But Ralph Nader can also go to hell.

  26. If America buys into this bullshit, they deserve what they get. Nader has nothing to do with it.
    And here’s the sleaze behind the video:
    WASHINGTON √ɬ¢√¢‚Äö¬¨√¢‚Ǩ¬ù Republican John McCain’s campaign suspended a staffer who sent out a provocative video linking Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama to the comments of his spiritual mentor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.
    The staffer, a low-level aide named Soren Dayton, sent out a link today to the YouTube video, titled “Is Obama Wright?” on the social messaging Web site Twitter.
    The campaign suspended him a few hours later, although it wouldn’t say for how long.
    “We have been very clear on the type of campaign we intend to run and this staffer acted in violation of our policy,” campaign spokeswoman Jill Hazelbaker said. “He has been reprimanded by campaign leadership and suspended from the campaign.”
    Last month, McCain swiftly denounced the comments of a radio talk show host who, while introducing McCain, repeatedly called Obama by his middle name of Hussein.
    The Politico, a Washington-based newspaper, reported that the two-minute video was the work of Lee Habeeb, a former producer of the Laura Ingraham Show, a conservative talk program. In the video, Wright’s most incendiary remarks are mixed with snippets from Obama speeches and interviews, which are edited to make the senator seem to be sputtering and unpatriotic.

  27. It will definitely work on racists. The GOP can only use Wright for so long. The chickens will have to come home to roost for them too.

  28. Josh: “Did they keep inviting him back for 20 years?”
    Even if they didn’t, Bill-o still hasn’t officially denounced him.
    Mgmax: “Oh, pretty much the same way Donald Rumsfeld shaking Saddam Hussein’s hand back when he was an unabashed Soviet client turns into proof in D.Z.’s mind that we created, backed and armed Saddam.”
    That, and the CIA-sponsored coup, and the weapons he used on the Kurds which were made from parts we sold him…
    “The sad part of this is that millions of well-meaning whites who were looking forward to electing the first black president are now becoming convinced that the whole community is crazy with this talk– and certainly not safe to be put in the ultimate position of power over other races.”
    How are they any crazier than the Neo-cons?
    MDOC: “It’s ignorant and irresponsible. What good can come of telling people such lies?”
    Are they any worse than WMDs?
    mutiny: “This country will never elect a president for whom there is video/photographic evidence that he boycotted saying The Pledge,”
    That’s a lie. http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2007/11/obama_nabbed_by_the_patriotic.html

  29. That particular video is vile and racist (and not well-made). But you’re crazy if you don’t think those photos/videos of him boycotting the pledge, refusing to wear the pin and his wife’s comments won’t be used again.

  30. mutiny, plenty of us don’t sing because we can’t sing. You’re bending over backwards and about to break. Your thesis would only make sense if Obama were running for the Republican nomination.

  31. Wells, this just shows how utterly delusional you’ve become over Obama. Presumably “inviting a seething hate-monger” to be your pastor for a quarter century doesn’t “reflect on the flawed character and judgement” of Obama.
    Until you can make balanced posts – i mean this one is absolute lunacy – why don’t you kick back and stick to Hollywood. You’re living in La-La Land with this stuff as it is.

  32. “I’m not sure how Clinton meeting Wright for probably about two minutes compares to Obama being so close to him for 20 years.”

    Oh, pretty much the same way Donald Rumsfeld shaking Saddam Hussein’s hand back when he was an unabashed Soviet client turns into proof in D.Z.’s mind that we created, backed and armed Saddam.

    It is amusing to watch the Democrats tear each other apart with this hysterical stuff for a change. Check out Barbara Ehrenreich’s piece about The! Cult! Hillary! Belongs! To! at the Huffandpuff today.

  33. He never refused to say the pledge. If you saw that whole video he had his hand on his heart during the pledge, but he didn’t during the national anthem. I don’t put my hand on my heart during the song either.
    Magga, you’re a fucking moron.
    Todd IS A RACIST. It doesn’t matter if he says he isn’t a racist.

  34. I’m trying to figure this out– did these threads start becoming foder of mongi-loids when posts got poitical or is it post re-design?
    There used to be solid conversations/debates going on here and now… uhhhg.

  35. I’m sorry, MAGGA, I missed where it was noble and reasonable to believe that white Americans like me are part of a vast evil conspiracy to keep black Americans down, in part by electing a government which creates special viruses to kill them, when not enslaving them with “middleclassness.”

    The sad part of this is that millions of well-meaning whites who were looking forward to electing the first black president are now becoming convinced that the whole community is crazy with this talk– and certainly not safe to be put in the ultimate position of power over other races. If that’s what they think I’m capable of, what are they capable of in (what they believe to be) return?

  36. Once again, I see what we have to look forward to with an Obama presidency: any criticism of him for any reason will immediately be branded “racist.” And there is no quicker way to make sure we never engage in a constructive dialogue on race than to throw around that charge at every opportunity.
    Oh, and please learn the definition of the word before you toss it around like a simpleton.

  37. Todd, you must be a Republican operative, or a thwarted Hilary-lover.
    McCain and Hilary will never see the insde of the White Hosue again…unless Obama invites them to his innaugural ball.! Get over it, you lost!
    You can hope and pray the Rev Wright flap has legs but that won’t make it true-the story is already dead, with only a few idiots repeating it amoungst themselves and telling themselves it still matters. Hoping against hope that Obama will be hurt by it.
    what’s the matter guys? Finally realizing that since there NO reason to vote for your guy McCain you’ve been reduced to trying to tear down Obama instead?
    We’re 8 MONTHS from the election—can you count that high?– by the DNC convention this summer Wright will be ancient history, by November it will be all but forgotten.
    But you just keep on watching that Wright sermon, Todd. On Jan 21 when Barack is taking the oath of office you’ll be crying tears and watching those video clips, telling yourself “The American people are just SO stupid!”

  38. MgMax, Josh and mutinyco are clearly bigoted. Anyone who uses racist slander like MgMax did is beyond a reprobate.
    “The sad part of this is that millions of well-meaning whites who were looking forward to electing the first black president…”
    You mean “looking forward” to it the way you’ve been? Bashing Obama and blacks eevry chance you get? Yeah, I’m sure whites like you couldn’t wait to pull that lever for a black candidate. Is that your new talking point now for why you’re not a racist?
    Doesn’t hold much water when you write crap like this: “[whites are] now becoming convinced that the whole community is crazy with this talk– and certainly not safe to be put in the ultimate position of power over other races.”"
    And considreing that it’s whites who exterminated the Native Americans, enslaved the blacks and insitututed Jim Crown, laughed while Katrina drowned New Orleans and cheered while bombs droppewd on Iraq, where does a vile racsit like you get off saying “the whole community is…not safe to be put in ultimate power over other races?”
    MgMax go back to whatever klavern you escaped from and take Todd, John Massey, and mutinyco with you! You guys can sit in your cave daydreaming about a pure-white America–which never existed and never will.
    The rest of us will be voting for Obama.

  39. It really is Jeff’s fault. Once he turned this site into Washington Elsewhere he started attracting new posters who care nothing about film and make their living copy-pasting and spouting rhetoric on political message boards.
    Once again I have to shake my head in amazement at how some of you get all worked up over this stuff. The candidates sure don’t.
    When McCain was running against Bush, Bush said he was a bad guy. Now that they aren’t in competition Bush says he’s a good guy.
    Bush Sr. and Clinton are like old friends.
    When Hillary and Obama get together this summer (the only way to save the party) they will do the same.
    Don’t you guys ever feel like the joke’s on you?

  40. Josh: Rev. Wright didn’t say anything that’s not being said in the black community ANYWAY or that’s not being said in the pulpit — that’s the point. And in other communities. Do you think all Latinos don’t think that perhaps America is wrong? A lot of people think like Rev. Wright, but because of being called non-patriotic, they don’t come out and say it for fear. The difference is Rev. Wright was caught on tape.
    And his speech is not that controversial, it’s the way he preaches — very fiery–that scares the bejesus out of people.

  41. This proves it. Barrak O’bama is toast.
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=gWHNA_j7h5A
    If a black guy can’t have a white man’s head swen onto his body without there being arguing and stuff then that means that he’s unfit to be President. I was for Bob Kerrey, but never for HIllary, but she’s better than a lyar who can’t deal with having a white guys head on his shoulder. Whe needs to put more money into schools not in the Army, so people can do better with there educationals.
    Posted by Todd at March 21, 2008 08:55 PM

  42. “MgMax go back to whatever klavern you escaped from”
    What a moron. Josh is exactly right: any criticism of Obama will be met with the accusation of racism. Well, it’s time to stand up and call that the intellectually lazy, immature, terrorizing bullshit it is. My points are thoughtful and well-made. (Or over the top sarcastic, in which case they’re still thoughtful.) If you call them racist, that reflects on your inability to have a debate without going to the nuclear option, not on me.

  43. Jeff do us a favor and stick to movies; okay? Your fervent support of Obama is being met with so much controversy on these boards, it’s hard for me to visit.
    Start another blog somewhere else and call it Jeff’s Politics, but please keep it from here. Thanks,

  44. What I don’t get is the ongoing stupidity in the party. Right now, because of people like Jeff, there is so much hatred and in-fighting, the dems have NO chance. And somewhere Karl Rove is laughing his ass off. We played right into their hands. This is not the time to be putting up a fight, you fucking idiots. The time to fight is during the actual election. It’s over. Stick a fork in it.

  45. So Chicago, let me see if I understand – if I don’t agree with what Rev. Wright is saying, I should never vote for a black candidate because they all think that way?

  46. No, Josh, I think the point is, Obama recognized that Rev. Wright, like his grandmother, is racist in a way that we have to get beyond as one people united by our common brotherhood, and therefore agreeing with him that Rev. Wright is racist makes you racist, you hateful cross-burning Klan member.

  47. Zimmergirl is right. The split within the Dems only helps the GOP.
    But calling out supporters of HRC as evil isn’t going to bring them to Obama, and the vitrol of sites like Daily Kos is proof of the insane zealotry at work that will not help either win in 2008.

  48. There is a generational divide. Black men of Rev. Wright’s generation have plenty to be fired up about.
    Re: AIDS, why is anyone shocked that some people whould believe the gov’t is behind it? I suggest people read up on the Tuskegee experiment.
    I don’t agree with everything the Rev. says but I understand exactly where is is coming from. I don’t remember this kind of outrage from Hannity & his friends when Rev. Robertson was blaiming 9/11 on the gays.

  49. Nola is right. Hannity never condemns white preachers and/or the religious white when they speak against gays and say that Gays created AIDS.
    I hate to use the word racist, but it is, it’s difference. How you treat someone of another color that says the same what you’re saying. Go back and read over Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell speeches. They were JUST AS POLITICAL AS REV. WRIGHT, and when they were criticized, they backtracked and the matter went away. And then the following year they said something controversial and it went away.
    Everybody — please stop coming here to Jeff’s site to make political comment and go to the Huffington post instead. Okay? Maybe then jeff will stop posting these topics.

  50. “MgMax go back to whatever klavern you escaped from”

    What a moron. Josh is exactly right: any criticism of Obama will be met with the accusation of racism. Well, it’s time to stand up and call that the intellectually lazy, immature, terrorizing bullshit it is. My points are thoughtful and well-made. (Or over the top sarcastic, in which case they’re still thoughtful.) If you call them racist, that reflects on your inability to have a debate without going to the nuclear option, not on me.

  51. Gordie is right about the folks who post here who don’t care anything about movies. I normally don’t post here and I have enjoyed reading the discourse on movies and, yes, even the politics. However, I always felt there was still a commonality, the love of movies. If people are posting, just because they are professional posters (right or left) they need to be blocked.
    When the Obama speech was covered by USA Today. The amount of postings was insane. I don’t know where the message count ended, the last I saw was over 10,000. Some posters must have posted nearly identical postings hundreds of times. I really do think there are people that sit at there desk all day and night looking for any message forums that they can lob their verbal grenades regardless of the overall nature of a particular website. I am not remotely suggesting censorship, but I think there that there can be a way to suss out whether someones intention are legitimate in posting here.

  52. I think Jeff would love 10000 posts but that doesn’t happen here.
    “I am not remotely suggesting censorship, but I think there that there can be a way to suss out whether someones intention are legitimate in posting here. ”
    I don’t know how. Unless you mimic the Daily Kos and accuse anybody of posting things you don’t like by calling them “trolls” or “sockpuppets” or any number of paranoid overkill.

  53. Definitely not, like I said if a poster is not engaged in the overall movie vibe of the site, then chances are they don’t belong here.
    That said I rarely post, I enjoy reading about the movies, I don’t post much about movies, because I rarely get to see them in advance. It seems the dialogue about the lion share of movies dies down once the movie is released or is out for more than three days. Which is understandable since its more interesting to look ahead than to look backwards.

  54. mjn, many others have made these comments and been roundly shot down by Jeff himself. It’s his site, and the political discussion is part of life and popular culture, just as film is, but for most of us not in the biz, the politics are more directly bread and butter meaningful to us and that’s reflected in the passion accompanying these comments and Jeff’s posts themselves.
    I give Jeff credit for including these discussions. I have been moved by his advocacy to consider some things I had not previously, and I think I’m wiser for it.
    Film is not completely set off and divorced from life, nor is life from film.

  55. No, Josh, I think the point is, Obama recognized that Rev. Wright, like his grandmother, is racist in a way that we have to get beyond as one people united by our common brotherhood, and therefore agreeing with him that Rev. Wright is racist makes you racist, you hateful cross-burning Klan member.

  56. George, you can pimp that meme all you want but it’s a long way to the convention and Clinton still beats Obama in many polls, believe them or not. She won California and New York (which shoulda gone to Obama) and who would drop out of a race this close? Stop reading the Daily Kos.
    If McCain had listened to all the briliant pundits (like that moron Markos) six months ago, he would not be the nominee.
    I know you Obama folk think everybody should just step out of his way just because you say so, but the reality is a li’l moe complicated. This is not an endorsement of HRC, just the facts, jack.

  57. What part of the phrase “mathematically impossible” don’t you understand, Jack?
    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
    ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

  58. George, if Obama completely imploded and the superdelegates all switched, she’d have the nomination.
    Or vice versa.
    And if the first ballot comes and goes without a winner… they’re all free agents at that point.
    So it’s not ridiculous to say that nothing’s inevitable yet.

  59. You guys are right. I eagerly await the fifteenth ballot nomination of Bruce Babbit.
    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ROTFLMAOIRHEYSGRWLFOBOEUQATYO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  60. Gore in four, my friend.
    Deadlock on the first one. Gore floated as compromise on second. Builds steam on third. Wins it on the fourth.
    By the way, did you hear that they went snooping in John McCain’s passport file too? Turns out he spent several years of his youth living in a Communist capitol!

  61. Gee, sounds like a conspiracy Mgmax.
    But our government doesn’t snoop into American’s files! Only if they’re suspected terrorists! Paranoia!
    Maybe now these politcians will step up to FISA and The Patriot Act they pushed through.

  62. George, if Obama completely imploded and the superdelegates all switched, she’d have the nomination.

    Or vice versa.

    And if the first ballot comes and goes without a winner… they’re all free agents at that point.

    So it’s not ridiculous to say that nothing’s inevitable yet.

  63. For those of you who continue to carry the Obama flag, it is over. You just don’t know it yet.
    In spite of the proclamations by the usual suspects that Obama’s recent speech was somehow relevant to anything, he’s lost whatever appeal he ever held for mainstream America.
    I know, I know, but all your friends are voting for him. Unfortunately for you, your tight little circle has as much as a grasp on mainstream America as Rev. Wright has on understatement.
    It’s over. Get over it.

  64. prediction: Al Gore will be the nominee — trust me. the way this primary is going, it’s going to be deadlocked or there’s going to be a lot of fighting among Dems. And they’re going to draft Gore. He will choose Obama for VP and all will be peaceful.
    Now, if Obama loses the primary he will run for Gov of Illinois at the end of his term, because our current Gov of Ill is in deep doo-doo and the people want him gone. He has a low poll rating of 29% approval. Obama to the rescue in Ill.

  65. Gore in four, my friend.

    Deadlock on the first one. Gore floated as compromise on second. Builds steam on third. Wins it on the fourth.

    By the way, did you hear that they went snooping in John McCain’s passport file too? Turns out he spent several years of his youth living in a Communist capitol!

  66. George Prager must be the most insightful political analyst of the century. Somebody please give this intellectual giant a grant so that he can continue his important work unimpeded by the man.

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