Bastards in Paris

I finished Quentin Tarantino's Inglorious Bastards this morning at 2:30 am, and yesterday's opinion (based on having read the first 80 pages) is basically unchanged. I'm still calling it a categorically insane World War II attitude comedy on top of a quasi-"exploitation film" about angry Jews paying back the Nazis for their many atrocities. It begins and ends in QT's movie-nut head, and is very entertaining for that.

The film is going to seem loony-tunes to some, and that's good. The Cinema Paradiso section (pretty young Jewish refugee running a Paris cinema, changing reels, not smoking for fear of burning the stored silver nitrate film reels) goes on a bit, page 50 to 100, give or take. A lot of bodies hit the floor from page 100 to 165. A lotta blood and bullets. The violent finale is wackjob. It's either insane beyond measure or wildly imaginative in a good way, or both.

Oh, and the actor who gets to play the role of Colonel Landa (a.k.a. "the Jew Hunter") is going to have a field day. Brad Pitt's "Aldo the Apache" part should be beefed up a bit; he's too peripheral over the last 30 or so pages.

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Posted by Jeffrey Wells on July 12, 2008 at 2:04 PM

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Balthazar Author Profile Page says ...

Pitt for Landa. I'm callling it.

Posted by Balthazar Author Profile Page at July 12, 2008 2:26 PM

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SmilingPolitely Author Profile Page says ...

Will this be financial disaster merely on par with Grindhouse, or is it going to tank worse?

Posted by SmilingPolitely Author Profile Page at July 12, 2008 2:34 PM

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Nick Plowman Author Profile Page says ...

I'll read it when I find the time, lord knows I am not going to make the time just to read it.

Posted by Nick Plowman Author Profile Page at July 12, 2008 2:34 PM

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gruver1 Author Profile Page says ...

Wells to Baltahzar: Pitt as Landa? Good thinking. I'll buy that. It's a better role. really. Juicier. It's kind of the Samuel L. Jackson role in Pulp Fiction, in a way.

Posted by gruver1 Author Profile Page at July 12, 2008 2:34 PM

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Balthazar Author Profile Page says ...

Anyone know if Pitt can pull off the extended fluent French and German needed for this?

Posted by Balthazar Author Profile Page at July 12, 2008 2:47 PM

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berg Author Profile Page says ...

Jackson plays Marcel? Two scripted foot close-ups, one in piss, one running through clover ... fave sequences - La Louisiane and Donny Donnowitz having his baseball bat signed by old lady Himmelstein ...

Posted by berg Author Profile Page at July 12, 2008 2:57 PM

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monsieur hire Author Profile Page says ...

"Anyone know if Pitt can pull off the extended fluent French and German needed for this?"

DOUBTFUL. His single attempt to master even Austrian-accented English in Jean Jaques-Annaud's Seven Years in Tibet was not successful.

As time has passed, he has become much less adventurous as an actor and more simply a variation on Brad Pitt in every role post Oceans 11. I also believe this true of his solid performance as Jesse James last year, in a movie owned by Casey Affleck and its DP. He has leaned on his image and his familar mannerisms (his "crying" scenes seem overtly artificial and bag-of-tricks -- see his telephone scene in Babel and then contrast it with his earlier work in Legends of the Fall and Seven).

To think that he will master French and/or German is simply out of his range. He is fine at what he does, but his movie star persona and public private life has replaced his earlier grit and magnetism. He rarely has moments where he disappears into a character as Affleck did.

Posted by monsieur hire Author Profile Page at July 12, 2008 2:57 PM

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berg Author Profile Page says ...

oh and after Lady in the Water the second film in recent memory to kill off a film critic

Posted by berg Author Profile Page at July 12, 2008 2:59 PM

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Balthazar Author Profile Page says ...

The casting of this film is going to be an awful lot of fun.

Speculation. Second guesses after the picks are made. Exploitation-flick actor cameos.

Our familiarity with the script is going to make it 1,000 times more fun, knowing the scenes and characters that QT has crafted.

Who plays Hitler? Goebbels?

The British officer who finds himself in hot water in the bar is a fun juicy role, too. (Though I would personally merge that role into an existing character)

Posted by Balthazar Author Profile Page at July 12, 2008 3:06 PM

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The Hoyk Author Profile Page says ...

I'm hoping Moran Atias from MOTHER OF TEARS gets Shoshanna. If the character of Bridget von Hammersmark is, (as I suspect, a stand-in for KOLBERG star Kristina Söderbaum, a decent lookalike would be Anna Faris.

Posted by The Hoyk Author Profile Page at July 12, 2008 3:54 PM

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Majorian99 Author Profile Page says ...

I think INGLORIOUS BASTERDS is an absolute corker. I'm really looking forward to this more than anything slated yet...

For me it just works perfect. (SPOILER WARNING!):


The giant Chandelier from Versaille comes to one the most satisfying pay-offs in my memory ever...

Not to exclude Goebbels still in his chair going cannonball through the opposite wall in a shower of splinters -- that's a thing I'd love to see, many times, sorry...

And the Sanders-character (I personally never tire the slightest of watching the real George Sanders act) seems so right for my taste...

(SPIOLER WARNING END)

A masterpiece in my book, without doubt. What if more sreenplays could display this amount of wit in the details. And this comes from one who thought the new Indy was too hokey andabsolutely loved SAVING PRIVATE RYAN, BAND OF BROTHERS, SCHINDLER'S LIST and THE THIN RED LINE...

One last detail, I constantly heard the amazing Michael Madsens hazy vochal chords all through Lt. Raine's dialogue and could see him in my movie-mind hitting home-run after home-run with that badass twang, which also clearly reminded me of the original coolness of Aldo Ray's wheezy voice...

Posted by Majorian99 Author Profile Page at July 12, 2008 3:54 PM

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Majorian99 Author Profile Page says ...

I think INGLORIOUS BASTERDS is an absolute corker. I'm really looking forward to this more than anything slated yet...

For me it just works perfect. (SPOILER WARNING!):


The giant Chandelier from Versaille comes to one the most satisfying pay-offs in my memory ever...

Not to exclude Goebbels still in his chair going cannonball through the opposite wall in a shower of splinters -- that's a thing I'd love to see, many times, sorry...

And the Sanders-character (I personally never tire the slightest of watching the real George Sanders act) seems so right for my taste...

(SPIOLER WARNING END)

A stunning, strange masterpiece in my book, without doubt. What if more screenplays could display this amount of wit in the details -- the future would be bright fro me... And this comes from one who thought the new Indy was too hokey andabsolutely loved SAVING PRIVATE RYAN, BAND OF BROTHERS, SCHINDLER'S LIST and THE THIN RED LINE...

One last detail, I constantly heard the amazing Michael Madsens hazy vocal chords all through Lt. Raine's dialogue and could see him in my movie-mind hitting home-run after home-run with that badass twang of his, which also clearly reminded me of the original coolness of Aldo Ray's wheezy voice...

Posted by Majorian99 Author Profile Page at July 12, 2008 3:57 PM

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coxcable Author Profile Page says ...

The script seems to be about how the Jews not only helped defeat the Nazis but also how Jewish Hollywood vanquished German cinema around the same time. The Bastards are all American John Wayne swagger... the Germans are stiff Riefenstahl propaganda. And the two aesthetic sensibilities come crashing together in the big nasty climax.

It's essentially Jackie Brown in WWII, with everyone trying to outwit everyone, but the structure is more clever than it reads.

Olivia Thirlby for Shosanna.

Posted by coxcable Author Profile Page at July 12, 2008 4:08 PM

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MASON Author Profile Page says ...

Just got word that Leo is interested in playing Zoller.

Posted by MASON Author Profile Page at July 12, 2008 4:14 PM

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Balthazar Author Profile Page says ...

coxcable wrote: The Bastards are all American John Wayne swagger

Yes, if John Wayne was Jewish.

Here's a question: How "Jewish" do the Basterds have to be? Is it enough to simply be told they're Jewish? Do we need to see and hear they're Jewish? How "Jewish" does the cast have to be? Or is that irrelevant to whether the film works?

Posted by Balthazar Author Profile Page at July 12, 2008 4:16 PM

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madskrilla Author Profile Page says ...

I think Thirlby's too bland. And, does she speak flawless French? I think you need a French actress for that.

I think Lou Doillon would be perfect for Shoshanna, in so many ways.

Posted by madskrilla Author Profile Page at July 12, 2008 4:19 PM

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Balthazar Author Profile Page says ...

Also, in the casting, you need everyone to be in on the joke, right?

You can't have some people playing it straight against others who are hamming it up.

The Shoshonna character needs to be the right age (generally), speak fluently, but not be so ultra-serious as to seem like she's in a different film. You need the Uma Thurman ham-bone factor.

Posted by Balthazar Author Profile Page at July 12, 2008 4:23 PM

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huntermdaniels Author Profile Page says ...

I vote for the REALLY Jewish looking guy from the dinner scene of Swimming With Sharks for one of the roles. He's face is just right for it.

Posted by huntermdaniels Author Profile Page at July 12, 2008 5:04 PM

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Legowombat Author Profile Page says ...

If this is considered genius, then I expect the scripts of Drew McWeeny to be similarly venerated.

Posted by Legowombat Author Profile Page at July 12, 2008 6:17 PM

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Balthazar Author Profile Page says ...

You mean the guy who's writing "Bats on a Plane" for Joe Dante?

Posted by Balthazar Author Profile Page at July 12, 2008 6:27 PM

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Balthazar Author Profile Page says ...

Jeffrey, for context's sake, can you refresh our memory on our favorite and least favorite works by QT and, specifically, what do you think of the Kill Bills?

Posted by Balthazar Author Profile Page at July 12, 2008 6:49 PM

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Balthazar Author Profile Page says ...

our favorite = YOUR favorite, of course (slaps head)

Posted by Balthazar Author Profile Page at July 12, 2008 6:49 PM

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otakuhouse Author Profile Page says ...

Halfway through, it's like Jeff says, a hoot - perfect word for it. Guess I'm a little disheartened though that it doesn't aspire to move beyond any closed off cinematic allusions. Tarantino writes suspense really well. It just reads as a movie about other movies and nothing more, like all the rest of his works.

Posted by otakuhouse Author Profile Page at July 12, 2008 8:31 PM

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Balthazar Author Profile Page says ...

Does anyone think it's a weakness that there's not one outdoor firefight in this script? I'm not TOO bothered by it, but I wonder if the folks salivating at Tarantino getting his hands on the European theater of WW2 are going to disappointed that he missed a chance to set up all his plastic Army figures and have a big battle.

Posted by Balthazar Author Profile Page at July 12, 2008 8:53 PM

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corey3rd Author Profile Page says ...

why not have a black guy working undercover and zipping around Nazi-occupied Europe. Ivan Dixon got away with it on Hogan's Heroes for five season.

And what's up with a group of Jewish guys and not one of them discusses his mother or writing home to his mother or anyone else's mother? These guys are about as Jewish as Renée Zellweger in Price Above Rubies.

It'll be interested to see if the Jewish Spike Lee dares to attack QT for going all Hebrew on a script.

Posted by corey3rd Author Profile Page at July 12, 2008 9:08 PM

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Balthazar Author Profile Page says ...

Yeah, and if casts the Michael Madsens of the world as the Jewish soldiers, it could get even rougher.

Posted by Balthazar Author Profile Page at July 12, 2008 9:13 PM

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The Bandsaw Vigilante Author Profile Page says ...

"Does anyone think it's a weakness that there's not one outdoor firefight in this script? I'm not TOO bothered by it, but I wonder if the folks salivating at Tarantino getting his hands on the European theater of WW2 are going to disappointed that he missed a chance to set up all his plastic Army figures and have a big battle."

Yeah, I caught the same thing, though there are those one or two brief flashbacks to outdoor skirmishes (the "ambush" scene being one of these).

Posted by The Bandsaw Vigilante Author Profile Page at July 12, 2008 9:57 PM

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BurmaShave Author Profile Page says ...

Is Sandler still up for this? After ZOHAN I really hope that happens.

Posted by BurmaShave Author Profile Page at July 12, 2008 11:54 PM

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moorish Author Profile Page says ...

I'm sorry, but BASTERS is in no way a masterpiece. It's got some serious structural issues for one, and half the time the supposed stars are either absent entirely or dying offscreen. Instead we get a bunch of new characters who wander into the film and are dead two scenes later, like we give a shit yet. I also think tying the two story strands more closely together in the resolution would be helpful.

There's the nugget of a good flick in there, and some dynamite individual scenes, but overall the thing has the same lop-sided, over-indulgent problems as Kill Bill.

And, call me a stickler, but you should at least have *some* historical accuracy in your WW2 film.

Posted by moorish Author Profile Page at July 13, 2008 3:04 AM

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swordandpen Author Profile Page says ...

Moorish, I agree with you. The script is sort of a mess with characters disappearing and reappearing for sometimes almost 60 pages. Although, to be honest, I didn't think most of them were developed well beyond Shoshanna and Col. Landa. The Bastards are all one-note and you don't even get a good sense of them as a team or how those different personalities interact with one another.

I thought the script was basically 100 pages of tedious setup for the big ending. Although the ending was well done, I stopped giving a shit what was going to happen well before that point.

Also, the way Tarantino uses dialogue in this script to explain every little thing comes across as a bit amateurish. The ending is the only time he bothers to tell a visual story. I know he's known for having lots of dialogue, but I found it mostly flat and containing too much exposition.

I can't believe he considers this the last draft, as it feels more like a first draft to me.

Posted by swordandpen Author Profile Page at July 13, 2008 5:05 AM

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Stephe96 Author Profile Page says ...


He'd better cut the dog shooting scene. Movie heroes do not shoot innocent dogs. I'm sorry.

Posted by Stephe96 Author Profile Page at July 13, 2008 8:21 PM

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