Count Thread it’s not as good as what Hillary would have done but he spoke well enough to gety my vote over Mccain which ultimately is a vote for a continuation of the past eight years. I for one can’t continue to vote for that and that is why I’d rather take a chance on Obama. Enough said.
Next President of the United States. Take it to the bank.
McCain’s congratulatory ad in response is one of the stiffest, most insincere performances since…well…his OWN performance down in New Orleans in front of that green backdrop.
Seriously, though…this guy is the future.
I was pretty bloody worried he’d keep drifting, give another lofty speech which was amazing the first time but wouldn’t cut it tonight. I was worried he’d pale next to Hillary’s performance the other night. But for christsakes he nailed it. If you guys don’t elect him President, you on the coasts should seriously think about declaring independence and getting the Russians to back you.
By most accounts, this was a great speech (I didn’t watch it). But I think the signature sound bite — “We are better country than this” — won’t play well long term. Saying something like “We deserve better leadership than this” would have been fine, but lecturing Americans about their own (supposed) shortcomings just continues one of the worst tendencies of the Obama campaign.
Loved the speech, but instead of hearing six minutes or so of thunderous applause and cheers afterwards, they completely drowned out the crowd with some country song. Bad producing!
Somebody help me here…I’m trying to think of a movie that has “Enough!” as a quote. I’m sure there are many answers to this, but there’s one in particular that is on my mind and is just escaping me.
fielding: “The usual meaningless waffle from Hussein”
He should be for torture before he was against it like McSame.
Gus: “but lecturing Americans about their own (supposed) shortcomings just continues one of the worst tendencies of the Obama campaign.”
You’re right. Obama should call everyone a “nation of whiners”.
Ok ok,we get it. Theyve packaged michael jordan, michael jackson and oprah into a celebrity politician one who transcends his race, he’s a shot of heroin into the arm of america, making everyone feel so gooood about themselves. the media is pimping him for boffo ratings and page views and their asking white people to swallow some shit they’ve been chewing on for 500yrs. i dont think so..
A couple of weeks ago someone described Obama’s less-than-forceful reactions to McCain’s smears as an example of Rope-A-Dope (Ali’s sly way of wearing out the more physically imposing Foreman in the momentous match in Zaire).
To stay slighty movie-centric I saw the film of the Rumble in the Jungle in late 74 or early 75 on a thematic double-bill with The Arena (Pam Grier and Margaret Markov) and, Pam aside, the moment when Ali snaps out of his faked somnambulance and goes to town on top of Foreman’s head is one of the great “Destry gets his guns” moments in movies.
Some of that was on display tonight… a part of Andrew Sullivan’s post:
“What he didn’t do was give an airy, abstract, dreamy confection of rhetoric. The McCain campaign set Obama up as a celebrity airhead, a Paris Hilton of wealth and elitism. And he let them portray him that way, and let them over-reach, and let them punch him again and again … and then he turned around and destroyed them. If the Rove Republicans thought they were playing with a patsy, they just got a reality check.”
VANSMITH SAID “and their asking white people to swallow some shit they’ve been chewing on for 500yrs. i dont think so..”
What the hell is that supposed to mean?
“You know, I am a believer in knowing what you‚Äôre doing when you apply for a job. Uh, and I think that if I were seriously to consider running on a national ticket, I would essentially have to start now, before having served a day in the Senate. Now there may be some people who are comfortable doing that, but I am not one of those people.” – Barack Obama, 2004
The first thing that came to my mind was Harrison Ford grabbing Lucas Haas at the end of “Witness” and screaming, “Enough!” in front of all those Amish folk!
Does this guy remind anyone else of Sam Neil in Omen 3?
“We hear! We hear! We hear!”
For some reason, the thought of him running this country scares the hell out of me.
fielding: Not sure what that quote’s supposed to prove, other than the fact that Obama’s not just running for himself; he’s running, because he sees the problems in the system which need to be addressed and changed.
Aris: “For some reason, the thought of him running this country scares the hell out of me.”
Yes, he should make a joke about bombing Iran instead.
It’s Rope-a-Dope all right, but Marty has it exactly backwards. McCain has been hammering on the ‘Celebrity’ theme for a while now, daring Obama to come out with specifics. Last night, he did. And it was the same laundry list of gripes and pie-in-the-sky utopianism that liberals have had for 40 years now.
Now, McCain can spend next week and the rest of the election pointing out that Obama isn’t an agent of change at all, merely an empty suit beholden to the special interests of the Liberal wing of the Democratics that America has consistently voted against since 1968.
You honestly think McCain can do better? Watch him speak.
I’m not saying that we elect a prez on just his speaking ability, but come on saying, “I can’t vote for him cause he has little experience” means you haven’t voted for anyone but a career politician your whole life. Can you live with that?
That is what a political speech is supposed to be like! I laughed, I cheered, and I was impressed at the forcefullness of his attack. It may sound superficial, and it was what thery were trying to accomplish, but I do feel more comfortable about voting for him after that speech.
Faris: “And it was the same laundry list of gripes and pie-in-the-sky utopianism that liberals have had for 40 years now.”
They’re a lot more in touch with reality than the people at PNAC, anyway.
Count Thread it’s not as good as what Hillary would have done but he spoke well enough to gety my vote over Mccain which ultimately is a vote for a continuation of the past eight years. I for one can’t continue to vote for that and that is why I’d rather take a chance on Obama. Enough said.
Next President of the United States. Take it to the bank.
McCain’s congratulatory ad in response is one of the stiffest, most insincere performances since…well…his OWN performance down in New Orleans in front of that green backdrop.
Seriously, though…this guy is the future.
I’m speechless. Two words sum it up: Home Run.
I was pretty bloody worried he’d keep drifting, give another lofty speech which was amazing the first time but wouldn’t cut it tonight. I was worried he’d pale next to Hillary’s performance the other night. But for christsakes he nailed it. If you guys don’t elect him President, you on the coasts should seriously think about declaring independence and getting the Russians to back you.
The usual meaningless waffle from Hussein. He’s gone.
to quote Herb Lee, “This makes me so happy.”
By most accounts, this was a great speech (I didn’t watch it). But I think the signature sound bite — “We are better country than this” — won’t play well long term. Saying something like “We deserve better leadership than this” would have been fine, but lecturing Americans about their own (supposed) shortcomings just continues one of the worst tendencies of the Obama campaign.
Loved the speech, but instead of hearing six minutes or so of thunderous applause and cheers afterwards, they completely drowned out the crowd with some country song. Bad producing!
Somebody help me here…I’m trying to think of a movie that has “Enough!” as a quote. I’m sure there are many answers to this, but there’s one in particular that is on my mind and is just escaping me.
fielding: “The usual meaningless waffle from Hussein”
He should be for torture before he was against it like McSame.
Gus: “but lecturing Americans about their own (supposed) shortcomings just continues one of the worst tendencies of the Obama campaign.”
You’re right. Obama should call everyone a “nation of whiners”.
Darth, maybe Enough?
Gus Petch>> *chuckle* Yeah, I don’t think that was it. Thanks, though.
Ok ok,we get it. Theyve packaged michael jordan, michael jackson and oprah into a celebrity politician one who transcends his race, he’s a shot of heroin into the arm of america, making everyone feel so gooood about themselves. the media is pimping him for boffo ratings and page views and their asking white people to swallow some shit they’ve been chewing on for 500yrs. i dont think so..
A couple of weeks ago someone described Obama’s less-than-forceful reactions to McCain’s smears as an example of Rope-A-Dope (Ali’s sly way of wearing out the more physically imposing Foreman in the momentous match in Zaire).
To stay slighty movie-centric I saw the film of the Rumble in the Jungle in late 74 or early 75 on a thematic double-bill with The Arena (Pam Grier and Margaret Markov) and, Pam aside, the moment when Ali snaps out of his faked somnambulance and goes to town on top of Foreman’s head is one of the great “Destry gets his guns” moments in movies.
Some of that was on display tonight… a part of Andrew Sullivan’s post:
“What he didn’t do was give an airy, abstract, dreamy confection of rhetoric. The McCain campaign set Obama up as a celebrity airhead, a Paris Hilton of wealth and elitism. And he let them portray him that way, and let them over-reach, and let them punch him again and again … and then he turned around and destroyed them. If the Rove Republicans thought they were playing with a patsy, they just got a reality check.”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20080829/pl_bloomberg/azxgmstuh45w
VANSMITH SAID “and their asking white people to swallow some shit they’ve been chewing on for 500yrs. i dont think so..”
What the hell is that supposed to mean?
“You know, I am a believer in knowing what you‚Äôre doing when you apply for a job. Uh, and I think that if I were seriously to consider running on a national ticket, I would essentially have to start now, before having served a day in the Senate. Now there may be some people who are comfortable doing that, but I am not one of those people.” – Barack Obama, 2004
Fielding, you omitted yourself from the “to be taken seriously” column by calling him ‘Hussein’ as some sort of negative.
The first thing that came to my mind was Harrison Ford grabbing Lucas Haas at the end of “Witness” and screaming, “Enough!” in front of all those Amish folk!
Does this guy remind anyone else of Sam Neil in Omen 3?
“We hear! We hear! We hear!”
For some reason, the thought of him running this country scares the hell out of me.
fielding: Not sure what that quote’s supposed to prove, other than the fact that Obama’s not just running for himself; he’s running, because he sees the problems in the system which need to be addressed and changed.
Aris: “For some reason, the thought of him running this country scares the hell out of me.”
Yes, he should make a joke about bombing Iran instead.
It’s Rope-a-Dope all right, but Marty has it exactly backwards. McCain has been hammering on the ‘Celebrity’ theme for a while now, daring Obama to come out with specifics. Last night, he did. And it was the same laundry list of gripes and pie-in-the-sky utopianism that liberals have had for 40 years now.
Now, McCain can spend next week and the rest of the election pointing out that Obama isn’t an agent of change at all, merely an empty suit beholden to the special interests of the Liberal wing of the Democratics that America has consistently voted against since 1968.
You honestly think McCain can do better? Watch him speak.
I’m not saying that we elect a prez on just his speaking ability, but come on saying, “I can’t vote for him cause he has little experience” means you haven’t voted for anyone but a career politician your whole life. Can you live with that?
That is what a political speech is supposed to be like! I laughed, I cheered, and I was impressed at the forcefullness of his attack. It may sound superficial, and it was what thery were trying to accomplish, but I do feel more comfortable about voting for him after that speech.
Faris: “And it was the same laundry list of gripes and pie-in-the-sky utopianism that liberals have had for 40 years now.”
They’re a lot more in touch with reality than the people at PNAC, anyway.
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