Bedrock

L.A. Times reporter Steven Braun reported yesterday that “soon after Sarah Palin was elected mayor of the foothill town of Wasilla, Alaska” — in 1997 — “she startled a local music teacher by insisting in casual conversation that men and dinosaurs coexisted on an Earth created 6,000 years ago.”

32 thoughts on “Bedrock

  1. I would love to hear that out of her mouth, and not someone who runs a “liberal political blog, called Progressive Alaska” (according to the story). If she does indeed believe such nonsense, which is more revealing than any supposed affair, then she is absolutely unfit for office of any kind – but that’s a huge, massive, might-as-well-put-it-in-italics if.

  2. Men and dinosaurs did not co-exist…but they should have. It’s cooler to think that they did. I can see a fur-bikinied Palin being chased by an allosaur…stumbling…its jaws tearing relentlessly at her flesh…

  3. C’mon Josh. It’s on the Internet so it MUST be true! Just like the “Palin is an Alaskan Secesionist” and “Palin made rape victims pay for their rape kits” and “Palin faked a pregnancy” and “Palin banned books” memes.

  4. I was under the impression that Palin’s creationist views were pretty well established. If you are a Young Earth Creationist, it follows that humans and dinosaurs must have coexisted at some point. Wacky and bizarre as this attitude may be, it is bog-standard creationism, and millions believe it.

  5. Here in Ohio, I saw a commercial for this the other day. It’s called The Creation Museum, where people and dinosaurs co-existed. I shit you not.
    website: creationmuseum.org
    It’s located in Kentucky. I am surprised Palin has not paid a visit to this place. I still cannot believe McCain checked this woman out. I am looking forward to the debate on thursday.

  6. My fundamentalist Christian relatives once gave me a Creationist Dinosaur coloring book. It featured images of man and dinosaur (awaiting coloring), and offered up such great arguments as “What’s really more realistic, dinosaurs living millions of years ago and disappearing, or dinosaurs dying out in the great flood because they were too big for Noah’s Ark?”
    Actually, I made need to check that again to make sure that the dinosaurs weren’t sinners, and were therefore forbidden to ride the ark.
    My point is, I kinda want to see Palin in a fur bikini. And not in the white house.

  7. I’m with bluefugue on this, and I don’t understand the debate. Palin’s a Creationist and a “Bible-believing Christian” (her words), and according to the Bible, the Earth is less than 10,000 years old. Q.E.D.

  8. Josh: “I would love to hear that out of her mouth, and not someone who runs a “liberal political blog, called Progressive Alaska” (according to the story).”
    I’d love to hear about Iran having nukes from people other than the ones who lied about WMDs….
    “If she does indeed believe such nonsense, which is more revealing than any supposed affair, then she is absolutely unfit for office of any kind – but that’s a huge, massive, might-as-well-put-it-in-italics if.”
    Well, Bush believed Jesus wanted him to invade Iraq, but that didn’t stop you from praising his behavior…
    Farris: “It’s on the Internet so it MUST be true! ”
    It’s probably more true than Creationism and anti-global warming propaganda, anyway…

  9. It’s now being reported that CBS will air even more footage of the Couric interview- footage that “will likely prove embarrassing”.
    There’s also this little tidbit:
    Capitol Hill sources are telling me that senior McCain people are more than concerned about Palin.
    The campaign has held a mock debate and a mock press conference; both are being described as “disastrous.” One senior McCain aide was quoted as saying, “What are we going to do?” The McCain people want to move this first debate to some later, undetermined date, possibly never. People on the inside are saying the Alaska Governor is “clueless.”
    http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/you-dont-say.html

  10. Yet McCain, as of yesterday, was still saying he’s over the moon about his choice of Palin. He seems adamantine about that. So seemed McGovern in ’72 when he backed Eagleton “1000 percent,” but of course that strategy derailed within days. Still, it’s too early to see this as a comparable blunder based on insufficient VP-vetting. Also, “Gee, she sounds like a lotta good Christian soccer-moms I know!” in ’08 is hardly the same burden to shoulder as “He had electroshock treatments for depression” in 1972. I only hope Obama’s team is currently making the case that they believe Palin to be a fine and worthy VP-candidate and formidable debater. If they dismisss or diminish her in any way (and this goes for Biden during the actual debate), then Palin will likely defy lowered expectations and come across as a winner if she’s merely able to string three coherent words together. Which I think she can probably do.

  11. “C’mon Josh. It’s on the Internet so it MUST be true! Just like the “Palin is an Alaskan Secesionist” and “Palin made rape victims pay for their rape kits” and “Palin faked a pregnancy” and “Palin banned books” memes.”
    OK, let’s get a flat-out denial from her.
    Someone should ask her the following questions during an interview: A) Did dinosaurs and humans co-exist? B) Are there actual witches with the power to cast spells? C) Have you ever spoken in tongues? D) Did God plant dinosaur fossils as an April Fool’s Day joke? and E) How many times does the sun to go around the earth in a year?

  12. I’m starting to think that McCain’s choice of Palin was a “Producers”-esque intentional political suicide. Think about it.
    After he gets the nom, he starts considering the reality of spending maybe his last years holding the most stressful job in the world. The man thinks, “Hey, I wanna live it up while I still can. I’ve got sixty-three cars I haven’t driven and seventeen houses that I haven’t set foot in yet. Do I really want to waltz into the highest office in a land that’s going through some of its most tumultuous times, and likely die a miserable old curmudgeon?”
    So, in an effort to appear that he still gives a fuck, he finds the most clueless, inept imbecile in the country and puts her front in center of his campaign. He “suspends” said campaign and considers not even showing up for the debate, only to have his handlers give him shit about it. So he packs it up, and heads over to the debate, only to grin through the whole thing.
    If that grin could speak: “Just a few more weeks and I’ll be sucking down pina coladas in Boca Raton.”
    Then the cruel hammer of irony strikes, and the American public becomes enamored with said imbecile.
    Paramount has secured the rights.

  13. “I was under the impression that Palin’s creationist views were pretty well established.”
    Yes, they were very well established on DailyKos.

  14. Okay, frankbooth, fair enough, but who’s going to ask Palin those questions? Answer: Nobody. Because if anyone did, they’d be accused of “anti-Christian bias.” I’m not saying there aren’t plenty of people who would love to ask Palin those questions. But those people aren’t going to get anywhere near her before election day.

  15. I consider a lifetime of living in the south surrounded by Christians (including, at one time, myself) to be the proof I need. Hell, way back in another life and another belief system, I was a leader in a youth ministry – and to my knowledge, I have NEVER met anyone who believes the “6,000 year” number. And that was in small-town Georgia.
    It’s amazing what you learn if you actually get out there and experience life rather than garner your “facts” from the Internet.

  16. “Um, you guys realize 99% of Christians don’t believe this “6,000 years old” stuff … right?”
    Unfortunately, that’s pretty far from being accurate, Josh. I attended Christian schools from Kindergarten to 12th grade, and this is what we were “taught”. The secular world and evolutionary science were presented as literally the gateways to hell. I maintain contact with many people from high school, and they still tow this line. I’ve spoken with far more Christians who subscribe to the “six to ten thousand years” line of thought than ones who don’t.
    Discussions with these people are a catch-22. If you question their rationale, or ask them to elaborate, the debate grinds to a halt as they accuse of persecuting their faith. This is the mindset we were raised in: anything that challenges what you believe is either temptation from Satan, or a test from God – or both, therefore they immediately disregard anything that does so.
    I’m not vehemently anti-religion (I attend a Unitarian church) and some of these people I speak of are among the kindest, most compassionate individuals you’ll ever meet. I’m only saddened when people become so insulated and comfortable in their personal worldview, that anything else is perceived as a threat. This condition is not specific to religious persons; there are atheists, liberals, conservatives, nihilists – people from all walks of life that this describes as well.
    The only real issue is when one of these people uses their worldview as a platform to impose it on others. I think that’s what has some concerned about the Palin’s and the Bush’s of the world. Believe what you want, live how you please, but please don’t tell me to do the same.

  17. televisiontears>>
    I had the same Producers-esque conspiracy theory, although I thought it was the RNC and not McCain that was behind it. I speculated that they thrust Palin on him with the expectation of losing being fairly reasonable.
    The party base never liked McCain to being with, and the state of affairs as it stands in 2008 – internationally and economically – could be regarded as untenable. Thus, you throw the election to the Democrats, and when Obama fails to cure the country’s ills within four years, a Republican who is more beholden to the party sweeps in to save the day in 2012, making Obama a one-term President who takes the blame for the inevitable farther fall down the rabbithole we’re about to take regardless of who is in office.

  18. Some more info came out about the still unseen parts of Palin’s CBS interview. I got this from politico:
    “Of concern to McCain’s campaign, however, is a remaining and still-undisclosed clip from Palin’s interview with Couric last week that has the political world buzzing.
    The Palin aide, after first noting how “infuriating” it was for CBS to purportedly leak word about the gaffe, revealed that it came in response to a question about Supreme Court decisions.
    After noting Roe vs. Wade, Palin was apparently unable to discuss any major court cases.
    There was no verbal fumbling with this particular question as there was with some others, the aide said, but rather silence.”
    http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0908/In_reintroduction_Palin_to_do_more_interviews_and_tell_her_story.html

  19. Um, Massey, your “proof” doesn’t wash with me. At all. And your presumption that my previous post was based on facts I gleaned from “the Internet” is offensive, given that you know nothing of me or my religious heritage. I refer you to the Book of Luke, in the New Testament. I’m sure you know it well. There is your answer as to where I am coming from.

  20. Darth: Even if Obama doesn’t improve the situation immediately, the Republican hate’s probably going to last longer than four years, considering they’re the reason they had to vote for him in the first place. If he wins, it’s going to be more than just Nixonian corruption which keeps Obama from suffering the same fate as Carter this time.

  21. D.Z.>> Perhaps so. I was just throwing the idea out there. Regardless, I’m hoping Obama wins and foils this hypothetical plan by doing a great job.

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