John McCain's decision to cancel his appearance on the Larry King show Tuesday night was, if you ask me, another show of questionable judgment and hair-trigger temperament. He and his lieutenants reportedly became enraged over Campbell Brown's tough interview about Sarah Palin with McCain spokesperson Tucker Bounds, and decided to blow off the King appearance as a kind of "fuck you" to CNN.

"As a presidential campaign, we reserve the right to adjust Senator McCain's media schedule in order to ensure the most effective use of his time," said Maria Comella, a McCain spokeswoman. "After a relentless refusal by certain on-air reporters to come to terms with John McCain's selection of Alaska's sitting governor as our party's nominee for vice president, we decided John McCain's time would be better served elsewhere."
McCain is obviously getting extremely prickly about all the water that Palin has been taking on, and is looking to turn things around before the worst-case- scenario (from the McCain perspective) comes to pass.
Posted by Jeffrey Wells on September 2, 2008 at 11:39 PM
comment #1
Jimmycrackcorn
says ...
Maybe McCain was really just worried that he'd be asked the same question his spokesman was (if there is any evidence of Palin ever having made a foreign policy decision or judgment) and knew that he couldn't come up with one with just one day to concoct a spin.
As for the "worst case scenario," it's telling that that article is in one of the English papers, because no major American paper would be dumb enough to suggest that there's a chance of Palin pulling out. (HuffPo keeps foolishly running a headline about how Republicans are denying that she might be scuttled, which is kind of like the old saw about somebody denying that he hits his wife.) The Christian right is deeply in love with her, as planned, and would desert the party en masse if anything happened with her. Everybody seems willing to lose some centrists to cement the base, but that's the kind of call that gets made in desperate times.
Really, the "worst case scenario" is if liberals stop making fun of Palin or predicting her political demise, which might cause her to not be so much of a venerated Christian martyr, and might make people start thinking about McCain and Obama again. No, most Republicans are loving every bit of this bait and switch. The more we pile on, the more they love it. I don't think it's a strategy that's going to work in the end, but you have to think it was part of the plan, and a brilliant hail Mary pass if it somehow works.
Posted by Jimmycrackcorn
at September 3, 2008 12:09 AM
comment #2
camster
says ...
@jimmy: Are you kidding? Like Larry's asked a tough question in the last, oh, 20 years? McCain had nothing to fear: Larry's a puffball and everybody knows it.
Posted by camster
at September 3, 2008 12:16 AM
comment #3
Jimmycrackcorn
says ...
I was thinking King might have accidentally asked the question if Campbell Brown put the card in front of him, but yeah, I guess you're right--it would've been a cakewalk.
Did everyone read McCain's incredibly guarded and downright surly Q&A in Time this week? Do seventysomething guys get PMS?
Posted by Jimmycrackcorn
at September 3, 2008 12:22 AM
comment #4
DarthCorleone
says ...
Campbell Brown's interview rocked, and Tucker Bounds was pathetic. That official statement is a joke; she wasn't refusing to come to terms with anything. She simply wanted a straight answer. Perhaps you've heard of a straight answer, John? What? Not Mr. Straight Talk Express anymore? McCain's camp made their bed. Now lie in it.
But, yeah, like anyone would ever have to worry about a tough question on Larry King.
Posted by DarthCorleone
at September 3, 2008 12:24 AM
comment #5
DarthCorleone
says ...
Jimmy>> Yeah, I saw the interview. I think there might have been audio on the Time site, but if there was I skipped listening to it. He was so uncooperative and impolite that I was almost convinced the interview had to be edited to make it appear that way.
Posted by DarthCorleone
at September 3, 2008 12:31 AM
comment #6
Marty Melville
says ...
No questions for McCain or Palin until all the talking points are in order...
Palin in particular has been the Invisible Woman for the last couple of days... she must be undergoing twenty-four hour coaching before she (or her family) sees the light of day... or another reporter.
Posted by Marty Melville
at September 3, 2008 12:46 AM
comment #7
iamwhoiam
says ...
Campbell Brown made journalism proud, and John McCain is beyond pathetic.
Posted by iamwhoiam
at September 3, 2008 12:55 AM
comment #8
BurmaShave
says ...
Sarah Palin got her Passport in 2007, and in lieu of using it, just lied about going to Ireland. She's real close to Russia though. I'm here in Virginia, and I'm as close to Africa as she is to Moscow. Perhaps I'd make a good Secretary General of the UN. These people have lost it, and thankfully, I think the average American knows it.
Posted by BurmaShave
at September 3, 2008 1:01 AM
comment #9
MAGGA
says ...
Anyone else find it kind of weird how the design on the stadium the republicans are using looks a lot like the war room in Dr Strangelove? The big circular thing we look through every time we go to an overhead shot? And the sure are a lot of Slim Pickens in that party, judging by the hats. Not that the Democrats were better in the hat department.
Posted by MAGGA
at September 3, 2008 1:57 AM
comment #10
Movie Watcher
says ...
How many votes can this woman bring to McCain? Gun lovers? Already got 'em. Same with the pro-lifers. Granted, she will bring some women over to the republicans, but Jimmy is right. Everybody's talking about Palin, and the issues that matter are being ignored, at least for now. And how can she change ANYTHING in Washington? The democrats will control congress; she won't be able to pass any legislation. The debates will be key. I think there will be huge ratings, that's good, but every single word will be analyzed, disected and gone over for days. Larry King would not ask anything like Campbell Brown did.
Posted by Movie Watcher
at September 3, 2008 2:23 AM
comment #11
dinther
says ...
Republicans are already staking out "blame-the-media" and redneck-victimization arguments.
And after tonight, when she is finished giving her speech, they will no doubt claim that questions about her lack of any serious experience and her lack of knowledge of the world outside of Alaska are all behind us, since she "proved" herself with her ability to read the tele-prompter and deliver a speech largely written by someone else.
Posted by dinther
at September 3, 2008 4:20 AM
comment #12
MAGGA
says ...
Not just anybody else, but partially prepared by the man McCain deplored so much after the Republican primaries for using attack ads against him. McCain called him "the worst of the republican party".
Posted by MAGGA
at September 3, 2008 5:32 AM
comment #13
corey3rd
says ...
McCain turning tail on a Larry King interview is just another sign of what a pathetic mess he's become. After being the press-friendly Straight Talker, he's become a spokesmodel that only reads statements and poses in front of landmarks. When in doubt, go for the POW memories.
Posted by corey3rd
at September 3, 2008 5:43 AM
comment #14
MariaMaria
says ...
Palin is going to give a good speech tonight; ratings will be high. She will be introduced to an audience expecting theater and she will deliver.
All this other stuff will be forgotten and she will become just another VP candidate. But ultimately, the bar will have been lowered for presidential/vp candidates in the future.
Regardless of who wins this election, this amazingly cynical and reckless move will end up being applauded. And that just saddens me.
Posted by MariaMaria
at September 3, 2008 6:00 AM
comment #15
moviemaniac2002
says ...
Hilarious....the McCaniacs send a clueless naif
to defend their woeful, ludicrous VP choice...
....and they're upset that the CNN woman
easily exposed him as deer-in-the-headlights
idiot??
This just gets better and better.
Posted by moviemaniac2002
at September 3, 2008 6:17 AM
comment #16
TL
says ...
If you can't stand up to a former "Today" show weekend host, how are you ever going to stand up to Putin, et al.?
Posted by TL
at September 3, 2008 6:22 AM
comment #17
Krazy Eyes
says ...
That Tucker Bounds interview is awesome. He gets his ass handed to him so thoroughly it's incredibly embarrassing that the McCain camp sent him out there so unprepared.
Not to mention the fact that he got eviscerated by a woman makes the charges of sexism irrelevant.
I think we're going to see clips from this interview for the remainder of the election. It really is a good highlight of how completely clueless the McCain camp has been acting lately.
Posted by Krazy Eyes
at September 3, 2008 6:57 AM
comment #18
corey3rd
says ...
After McCain's camp keeps telling the media that the pregnant daughter is out of bounds, they are flying Hockey Stud to St. Paul in order to sit with the family during mommy-in-law's speech.
So it's wrong to ask questions, but perfectly right to photo op it?
Posted by corey3rd
at September 3, 2008 7:15 AM
comment #19
berg
says ...
When I was watching Babylon A.D.and I saw the dead polar bears riddled with bullets on the steeps of the Bering Strait guess what I thought of instantly?
Posted by berg
at September 3, 2008 7:45 AM
comment #20
Richardson
says ...
"The Christian right is deeply in love with her, as planned, and would desert the party en masse if anything happened with her."
The thing is, the Republicans have two parts to their base. And, as much as the social conservatives love her, the fiscal (or 'true') conservatives hate her because she is so blatantly inexperienced. If she stays on the ticket, I expect the libertarians will get a decent boost from it.
Posted by Richardson
at September 3, 2008 8:08 AM
comment #21
moviesquad
says ...
I question the judgment of anyone who appears on Larry King for an interview. Please stop accepting his interview requests so they'll finally take this man off the air.
Posted by moviesquad
at September 3, 2008 8:18 AM
comment #22
corey3rd
says ...
few people know this, but Larry King was a Viet Cong torture expert in the late 60s.
Posted by corey3rd
at September 3, 2008 8:28 AM
comment #23
dinther
says ...
Folksy, telegenic, and inexperienced governor of a state with a largely homogenous population, uneducated on and incurious of foreign affairs, steered by fundamentalist Christian beliefs, and disciplined to repeat vapid Republican talking points.
Palin equates to the female George W. Bush - or perhaps one with a better command of English. And it seems that by attacking the media early on, Republican strategists hope that the media set for her the same lowered expectations that that they gave Bush - dumbing down questions so as not to embarrass her for her lack of knowledge or experience, failing to ask follow-up questions when she gives non-responsive answers, et cet..
Palin will probably appeal to the segment of the population who believes that Bush has done a good job - i.e., those at the convention. But for independents - really, we've had eight years of a President who was in over his head. Do they think Americans are so stupid as to not have learned their lesson?
Posted by dinther
at September 3, 2008 9:03 AM
comment #24
Richardson
says ...
"Do they think Americans are so stupid as to not have learned their lesson?"
Well, that's pretty much their best hope to win...
Posted by Richardson
at September 3, 2008 9:11 AM
comment #25
Richardson
says ...
And I think it's great -- the longer they don't give interviews, the longer she gets defined in a vacuum, without any actual input from her.
Posted by Richardson
at September 3, 2008 9:12 AM
comment #26
Bonifer
says ...
I agree with everything Jimmycrackcorn says, with one exception: It's not a Hail Mary pass the Republicans are running, it's a Fumblerooski.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-bonifer/not-a-hail-mary-a-fumbler_b_122845.html
Posted by Bonifer
at September 3, 2008 9:28 AM
comment #27
Catman
says ...
I wish this site was less Daily Kos and more Variety, but it's Jeff's site so...
I wish people here would just be a little more honest. Palin is as qualified to be VP as Carter or Clinton were if not more. She ran a 12 billion dollar state, took on a corrupt Republican establishment, negoiated the settlement that got the Alaskans their share of oil wealth, and has done this while living a Real World life.
The real reason you guys (generic term) don't like her is that she's a religious conservative who now stands a very good chance of upsetting the Dali Bama's Magical Mystery Tour. Real People (ie the ones who have a life that doesn't revolve around liberal politics) have more in common with this woman, and recognize that she has more in common with them, than anyone in Obama's pampered entourage. It's basically going to be the City vs. Suburbs/Country folk, and anyone who think this thing's going to be anything other than a nail-biter is nuts. I do believe though that Maverick and Red Sonia are going to pull a squeeker though, and it's going to be hilarious listening to everyone here proclaiming the End Times have come. Get ready to pull on those hairshirt hoodies...
Posted by Catman
at September 3, 2008 9:58 AM
comment #28
Richardson
says ...
Everything that guy just said is bullshit. Any specific thing he references as a fact has already been debunked, and the fact that he clearly believes all that bullshit means there's no point in responding to any of the specifics.
Posted by Richardson
at September 3, 2008 10:08 AM
comment #29
MariaMaria
says ...
The VP choice is one of the least democratic choices in the nation. One person gets to make it; there's no voting, no congressional hearings. So, as such, it is the patriotic duty of the presidential candidate to choose a vp who is ready to be president on day 1. Can anyone honestly say that the Palin is ready to assume the presidency?
McCain took a risk and a very dangerous one. If he succeeds, good for him. But, do you want a president who rolls the dice for major decisions? Who depends on luck or his gut in order to succeed?
It demeans the entire process and, as an American, it saddens me.
Posted by MariaMaria
at September 3, 2008 10:14 AM
comment #30
MariaMaria
says ...
Catman says, "She ran a 12 billion dollar state."
Her bio says, "In June 2007, Palin signed into law a $6.6 billion operating budget—the largest in Alaska's history."
6.6 billion is not unimpressive. Why does it have it have to be inflated?
Posted by MariaMaria
at September 3, 2008 10:22 AM
comment #31
MilkMan
says ...
Enough with the Obama is an elitist nonsense. McCain is married to a beer heiress and his father was an Admiral. Show me proof that Obama was raised with a silver spoon in his mouth. The guy was raised solid middle class, and everyone knows it, and trying to paint him as an elitist is desperate, not to mention ridiculous, since even if he was, so what? This country is run by the elite. W isn't a rich spolied frat guy? Are some of you people joking or what? When did this country start being run by the working class? Obama is about as close to a prole for prez as we're going to get. But seriously, say it again, say that Obama is an elitist, because it only makes you sounds more idiotic. And where's Mgmax during all of this? I'm sure he could explain to me why Little Lord Barack is a high falutin nancy pants.
Posted by MilkMan
at September 3, 2008 10:35 AM
comment #32
corey3rd
says ...
She tried to fire the town librarian in order to start banning books from the shelves. She only "cleaned up" the GOP in order to clear a path to get herself into the Gov. mansion.
The Dairy scandal is just breaking. She wasted taxpayers dollars and then gave an ally the equipment at rock bottom prices. She took $15 million to create a choo-choo train from her town to Sen Ted Steven's vacation house. Her husband doesn't think Alaska should be part of the United States of America.
The woman knows how to please her friends and execute her enemies. She's a female Dick Cheney.
Posted by corey3rd
at September 3, 2008 10:42 AM
comment #33
Dan Revill
says ...
While McCain gives CNN the "Fuck You" treatment, Obama gives FOXNews the "Love You (Sorta)" treatment. He'll be on O'Reilly tomorrow night.
source: http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/09/03/obama_fox/index.html
Posted by Dan Revill
at September 3, 2008 11:16 AM
comment #34
quintus arrius
says ...
"Everything that guy just said is bullshit. Any specific thing he references as a fact has already been debunked, and the fact that he clearly believes all that bullshit means there's no point in responding to any of the specifics."
These are not the droids you're looking for. He can go about his business. Move on.
Posted by quintus arrius
at September 3, 2008 11:22 AM
comment #35
JustThisGuy
says ...
People keep saying that Sarah Plain ran a state etc, etc, etc, but the triuth is she is only now nearing the two year mark on that score. Are you really trying to tell me that running a state with less population than the three cities surrounding my home town combined, and prior to that running a small town with roughly the same population as my old high school, is in any way preparatory for the role of President? For god's sake, George W. Bush was more qualified when he ran for office, and look how that turned out!
And before we all go running off half cocked about Obama's experience, I defy you to tell me with a straight face that his education, presidency of the Harvard Law Review, social activism, teaching of Constitutional Law at the University level, years in the state senate of Illinois and his time in the US Senate serving on the Senate Foreign Relations committee with Joe Biden are less qualifying experiences than Sarah Palin's brief ascendancy through the ranks.
Posted by JustThisGuy
at September 3, 2008 11:27 AM
comment #36
quintus arrius
says ...
"I defy you to tell me with a straight face that his education, presidency of the Harvard Law Review, social activism, teaching of Constitutional Law at the University level, years in the state senate of Illinois and his time in the US Senate serving on the Senate Foreign Relations committee with Joe Biden are less qualifying experiences than Sarah Palin's brief ascendancy through the ranks."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN54Fb9dLKs
Posted by quintus arrius
at September 3, 2008 11:44 AM
comment #37
MariaMaria
says ...
There you go again.
Posted by MariaMaria
at September 3, 2008 11:49 AM
comment #38
T. S. Idiot
says ...
Tucker Bounds is Scoot McNairy in a suit.
Posted by T. S. Idiot
at September 3, 2008 12:23 PM
comment #39
Richardson
says ...
I'm taking bets - who is behind the quintus mask? My guess is MGMax, but there's a chance it's Walter Sobchak; he has the same "I won't bring up facts and I won't respond to your points, but I will try to spin everything I can to discredit your point of view" style of arguing.
Posted by Richardson
at September 3, 2008 12:23 PM
comment #40
moviesquad
says ...
Big difference between Obama and Palin:
Palin = Vice Presidential nominee
Obama = Presidential nominee
Posted by moviesquad
at September 3, 2008 12:53 PM
comment #41
storymark
says ...
Good point, moviesquad.
If Obama ends up in the White House, it'll be because he was elected. If Palin ends up there, it'll be because she was appointed by a dead white man.
Posted by storymark
at September 3, 2008 12:59 PM
comment #42
MariaMaria
says ...
All 4 major candidates should be judged on the same relative standards. Palin could be president and therfore should be able to answer the same high level questions that Obama has been answering for 2 years. Do you think she is capable of that?
Unless you are prescient, the answer is no because you do not know and neither does anyone else.
And, that again, brings McCain's judgement into focus.
Posted by MariaMaria
at September 3, 2008 1:01 PM
comment #43
moviesquad
says ...
I guess we have no one to vote for since Obama is clearly unqualified to be President and Palin is clearly unqualified to be President, so it looks like we're screwed either way. Let's just stay home and go back to talking about movies.
Posted by moviesquad
at September 3, 2008 1:02 PM
comment #44
quintus arrius
says ...
Because there could only be those two people in the entire country who think y'all are funny enough to fuck with!
I'll give you a clue: http://americasfuture.org/sonnybunch/2008/08/tolerance-for-open-discussion-on-the-left-part-32634/#postcomment
Posted by quintus arrius
at September 3, 2008 1:49 PM
comment #45
George Prager
says ...
If McCain really put his country first he would step down, allow a brokered convention and let the delegates pick new nominees.
Posted by George Prager
at September 3, 2008 2:13 PM
comment #46
George Prager
says ...
Catman is retarded. Real people are asking themselves why this woman would want to run for Vp. She's the mother of a 4 month old retarded infant! I guess this moves Catman somehow. I wonder who Corky is endorsing?
Posted by George Prager
at September 3, 2008 2:16 PM
comment #47
dinther
says ...
Catman, JHRussell, Mgmax, and the other open-mouth-breathers are drinking the koolaid that not even top republicans buy into.
Roll the videotape:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/03/peggy-noonan-mike-murphy_n_123647.html
Posted by dinther
at September 3, 2008 2:41 PM
comment #48
Richardson
says ...
"Because there could only be those two people in the entire country who think y'all are funny enough to fuck with!"
No, it's because I'm optimistic enough to believe that there are actual intelligent people on the conservatives' side. Seeing so many stupid, stupid conservatives makes me sad and, since they're all saying exactly the same bullshit anyway, I like to assume that they're all just a few people with a lot of names and a lot of time.
It's more positive than the alternative, I can assure you.
Posted by Richardson
at September 3, 2008 3:09 PM
comment #49
quintus arrius
says ...
Ooh, we're all talking so tough now that anyone who might call you on it has been chased off by Jeffrey "Che" Wells.
What a kindergarten this is. Has Richardson ever actually made a point, or just told us how stupid we are next to his soopah-genius?
Posted by quintus arrius
at September 3, 2008 5:27 PM
comment #50
George Prager
says ...
That Levi Johnston is FUCKED!!!!!!! Imagine, having some creepy old man, a perfect stranger who can't lif this arms. approaching you on the tarmac, saying, "You banged it, you bought it."
Posted by George Prager
at September 3, 2008 5:40 PM
comment #51
berkguru
says ...
Like most kids in hick towns, she was a slut when she was young and got prego pre-marriage so became pro-life.
I guess if her daughter was raped by her uncle and gets prego too, they would all raise the kid Waltons-style.
She kills caribou. To me, hard to argue for pro-life when you are killing an animal more majestic than 85% of humans but I guess if she eats it, then maybe justifiable. Most of those ridiculous hunting excursions are just ego trips in fenced wild life camps though.
She also does helicopter wolf hunting - challenging stuff.
She was a ditzy newscaster in the 80s - I guess reading cue cards about international events gives her some experience with them.
She has retarded kids because she doesnt believe in birth control and it was god's will for her to have a kid in her mid-40s.
Her underage daughter clearly follows in mommie's path - unprotected sex followed by a soon-to-be bastard in basket. Now the poor kid gets a family-arranged marriage to some dork she probably barely knows so the family looks more proper for political purposes. So much for college. I guess she will never learn about the theory of evolution.
Bizarre, engrossing saga. Makes our country look pathetic.
Posted by berkguru
at September 3, 2008 6:01 PM
comment #52
MathewM
says ...
"Like most kids in hick towns, she was a slut when she was young and got prego pre-marriage so became pro-life."
She got married when she was 24 and had her first child when she was 25. Pretty normal.
"She kills caribou. To me, hard to argue for pro-life when you are killing an animal more majestic than 85% of humans..."
So you would put a moose ahead of your of your own grandmother?
"She has retarded kids because she doesnt believe in birth control and it was god's will for her to have a kid in her mid-40s."
Your mom kept you so be thankful.
"Her underage daughter clearly follows in mommie's path - unprotected sex followed by a soon-to-be bastard in basket. "
I have no clue what that means...bastard in basket?
"Bizarre, engrossing saga. Makes our country look pathetic. "
You have no pride in your country. Admit it. Move somewhere else like Cuba where everyone drives around in fifty year old cars.
I actually kind of agree with some of the stuff you said but your spite for this woman is so ugly I have to call you on some of it.
Posted by MathewM
at September 3, 2008 6:22 PM
comment #53
berkguru
says ...
"Like most kids in hick towns, she was a slut when she was young and got prego pre-marriage so became pro-life."
She got married when she was 24 and had her first child when she was 25. Pretty normal.
MARRIED WHILE PREGO - SHOTGUN STYLE
"She kills caribou. To me, hard to argue for pro-life when you are killing an animal more majestic than 85% of humans..."
So you would put a moose ahead of your of your own grandmother?
HER DUSTY BONES FALL IN THE 15% EXCEPTION, REST HER SOUL
"She has retarded kids because she doesnt believe in birth control and it was god's will for her to have a kid in her mid-40s."
Your mom kept you so be thankful.
GOOD ONE
"Her underage daughter clearly follows in mommie's path - unprotected sex followed by a soon-to-be bastard in basket. "
I have no clue what that means...bastard in basket?
THIS IS A MOVIE SITE AND YOU DONT RECOGNIZE THAT ANALOGY - INSTANTLY DISCREDITED
"Bizarre, engrossing saga. Makes our country look pathetic. "
You have no pride in your country. Admit it. Move somewhere else like Cuba where everyone drives around in fifty year old cars.
I PREFER 50 YEAR OLD CARS - MORE STYLE. AND CUBA HAS BETTER CIGARS, HEALTH CARE AND WOMEN
I actually kind of agree with some of the stuff you said but your spite for this woman is so ugly I have to call you on some of it.
NEAT
Posted by berkguru
at September 3, 2008 6:51 PM
comment #54
MathewM
says ...
"THIS IS A MOVIE SITE AND YOU DONT RECOGNIZE THAT ANALOGY - INSTANTLY DISCREDITED"
Wait, Hollywood Elsewhere is a movie site? You're kidding me, right? For a year there I thought it was Democratic Underground. Thanks for reminding me. By the way I enjoyed There Will Be Blood quite a bit, one of my favorites of the year. Unfortunately since our grand host, Jeffrey Wells has decided to spin what before was a fun movie site into a cesspool of political drivel people are acting like vicious attack dogs. riled up by the faintest scent of blood.
Posted by MathewM
at September 3, 2008 7:12 PM
comment #55
D.Z.
says ...
Jimmy: "Everybody seems willing to lose some centrists to cement the base, but that's the kind of call that gets made in desperate times."
The problem is the Republicans need to *gain* centrists this year.
"No, most Republicans are loving every bit of this bait and switch. The more we pile on, the more they love it. I don't think it's a strategy that's going to work in the end, but you have to think it was part of the plan,"
They love it in the same way that that Jim Jones was loved by his followers.
Maria: "Palin is going to give a good speech tonight; ratings will be high. She will be introduced to an audience expecting theater and she will deliver."
I doubt ratings will be high, unless she manages to attract Obama's 40 million viewers. That doesn't mean people won't be watching, but they've already decided who had the better dog-and-pony show, and they're now simply waiting for the death match. [I.E. the debates.]
"Regardless of who wins this election, this amazingly cynical and reckless move will end up being applauded. And that just saddens me."
I doubt that, too. No one applauded Mondale, and no one will take McCain any more seriously.
Richardson: "If she stays on the ticket, I expect the libertarians will get a decent boost from it."
Why would libertarians support a woman who sides with religious nuts any more than a guy who prosecuted Clinton for oral sex? Really, Ron Paul is their equivalent to Nader right now.
Catman: "I wish people here would just be a little more honest. Palin is as qualified to be VP as Carter or Clinton were if not more. She ran a 12 billion dollar state,"
Into the ground.
"took on a corrupt Republican establishment,"
Before letting it do whatever it wanted.
"negoiated the settlement that got the Alaskans their share of oil wealth, "
You mean by making it the most expensive place to get oil in the country? http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN1846675020080718
"Real People (ie the ones who have a life that doesn't revolve around liberal politics) have more in common with this woman, and recognize that she has more in common with them, than anyone in Obama's pampered entourage."
So real people fire state troopers because of nepotism?
Posted by D.Z.
at September 3, 2008 7:15 PM
comment #56
MDOC
says ...
Not for anything, but the state trooper that she got fired had tasered his 10 year old stepson. It's no fun when you know the details, huh?
P.S. Antonin Rezko
Posted by MDOC
at September 3, 2008 7:23 PM
comment #57
D.Z.
says ...
MDOC: "Not for anything, but the state trooper that she got fired had tasered his 10 year old stepson. "
Then that kind of reflects badly on her for not vetting him better.
"P.S. Antonin Rezko"
P.P.S. Charles Keating
Posted by D.Z.
at September 3, 2008 7:45 PM
comment #58
MDOC
says ...
"Then that kind of reflects badly on her for not vetting him better. "
Please explain, give me a few minutes to get some popcorn
Posted by MDOC
at September 3, 2008 8:05 PM
comment #59
astrophore
says ...
these conventions are wearing me down. if i hear one more detailed discussion of comparative healthcare systems or tax inefficiencies or the sober responsibilities of a modern-day empire, i'm gonna puke. why can't these dudes and dudettes just get up on stage and trash their opponents?
man, i wish chauncey gardner was running. now that's a bro who stood for something. when he talked, it was like he was talking just to you. and he understood how the shit went down.
not sure why the gop didn't think to nominate him -- he walked on water and everything.
Posted by astrophore
at September 3, 2008 8:05 PM
comment #60
D.Z.
says ...
MDOC: I dunno. The guy allegedly had a ton of problems, but she waited an awfully long time to do anything about it. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080904/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_palin_troopergate
Posted by D.Z.
at September 3, 2008 8:27 PM
comment #61
frankbooth
says ...
Jeffrey "Che" Wells must have forgotten to turn on the bug zapper.
Posted by frankbooth
at September 3, 2008 10:45 PM
comment #62
MilkMan
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These conventions, both of them, are Nuremberg-like in their capacity for gross theatrics.
Everyone is shouting. No one is saying anything. Just RAH-RAH-RAH. People so afraid of not fitting in that they will buy anything that is sold to them whether it fits or not.
What scare me the most is what happens to all those people if Obama wins. Or if McCain wins. Are the democrats going to throw up their hands and say we give up? No.
Are the republicans going to call for the blood of the innocent? Are they going to demand a public sacrifice, that age old weapon they like to trot out once a century just to remind everyone who's boss? If it happened I wouldn't be surprised.
If the voting public relates to Palin, if they see her as one of them, then choosing her is going to be one of the great strategic maneuvers in the history of the diabolic Right Wing Media Machine. And it would only highlight even further what is perennially wrong with what think of as the Liberal Media, which is that THEY are the elitists out of touch with the common American, and not Obama, who after all, if nothing more than a casting choice, the unknown actor who somehow lucked into the role of the leading man in one of the most expensive movies ever made, POTUS 44.
I think either way it's going to be entertaining, which is what W stopped being a long time ago.
Has there ever been an administration that looks so impatient to leave office? Dick Cheney is already semi-retired. Bush is trying to figure out what he wants to do next. I doubt it's going to be a book, and if it is, I'm assuming that it's going to be pop-up book for kids.
And astrophore, W is Chauncey Gardiner. That's why the new Stone movie is unnecessary.
Posted by MilkMan
at September 4, 2008 12:50 AM
comment #63
Movie Watcher
says ...
Cataman, Carter/Clinton/Palin all were governors. A lot of people don't like Carter. But remember, both Carter and McCain went to the Naval academy, so they have a lot in common. Palin is a good show, but let's see her on the campaign trail and in the debate. She will pimp her kids out, Fox will cover it, and you will be happy.
Posted by Movie Watcher
at September 4, 2008 2:29 AM
comment #64
George Prager
says ...
If Jake LaMotta had been at that convention and heard those speeches (Romney and 91u1iani's were especially psychotic) he would gesture at Palin's 4 month-old baby and say "I listen to him he's got more sense."
Posted by George Prager
at September 4, 2008 4:43 AM
comment #65
dinther
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Romney's speech was surreal: "family values"? Complaining that "liberals" created a culture of "Big Brother"?? It is as if he operates in a parallel universe.
Huckabee seemed to be the only one in touch with reality. He is a gifted speaker and had some nice moments.
Posted by dinther
at September 4, 2008 6:56 AM
comment #66
D.Z.
says ...
Movie Watcher: "Cataman, Carter/Clinton/Palin all were governors. A lot of people don't like Carter."
A lot of people who are in denial about global warming and who embrace gas-guzzling vehicles, that is.
Posted by D.Z.
at September 4, 2008 7:09 AM
comment #67
Catman
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While we're waiting for Jeff to resurface and start a new post to fight over (maybe it will actually be something about movies - I seem to remember he used to write wonderfully about them before he went off on this Daily Kos kick), let me say that if the Republicans win (I still think it's going to be very close whoever wins), it's going to be because of Sarah Palin. I've rarely seen anyone filet a politician as neatly as she did last night. The conservative blogs have been saying the enemies that underestimated her have wound up as road kill, and it's now obvious that not only can this woman handle a gun, but she's pretty good with a shiv as well. Every ticket needs an attack dog, and with the Saracuda now swimming point ahead of McCain, I'd be very, very afraid if I was a socialis...excuse me, Democrat.
Posted by Catman
at September 4, 2008 7:10 AM
comment #68
Richardson
says ...
"Ooh, we're all talking so tough now that anyone who might call you on it has been chased off by Jeffrey "Che" Wells."
You can check it, I've always talked like this. I don't really deal well with assholes who pretend lies are facts.
Posted by Richardson
at September 4, 2008 8:03 AM
comment #69
D.Z.
says ...
Catman: "The conservative blogs have been saying the enemies that underestimated her have wound up as road kill, and it's now obvious that not only can this woman handle a gun, but she's pretty good with a shiv as well."
Looks like she just cut her finger to me...
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/09/04/draft-palins-speech/#comments
"Every ticket needs an attack dog, and with the Saracuda now swimming point ahead of McCain, I'd be very, very afraid if I was a socialis...excuse me, Democrat"
Yes, because kickbacks to corporations are not socialist.
Posted by D.Z.
at September 4, 2008 10:35 PM
comment #70
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