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Of course, back then movies made a lot more money, relatively speaking, and ate up a bigger percentage of the U.S. entertainment dollar.

A lot of that has now shifted to television. And before we get all high and mighty, we might want to review the choices we have on network television.

The biggest stars from '36 to '41 were Shirley Temple and Mickey Rooney, song and dance kids. The #1 television show in America? American Idol. And I gotta tell you, Mickey Rooney has a hell of a lot more talent than Clay Aiken or Justin Guarini.

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Let's also not forget that this was the Nazi era - in 1941 we were full out at war - escapism was key.

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1936 was the first full year after the production code went into effect. The Studios were in a stone-cold panic with the government and Catholic Church watching over their shoulders. Can't blame them for playing it safe and pumping out crap to appease the rubes, though. It is a business.

Of course the Little Rascals shorts (pre code), while not 'sophisticated', are still funnier than anything that's been done in this country in 30 years.

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It's not as if Betty Grable at the number 1 spot in 43 or Bing Crosby in 44 and 45 were huge improvements. At least they appealed to audiences past puberty, and at least Crosby as a singer influenced greater artists such as Sinatra and Billie Holiday.

But look how great a lot of the actors were in the number 2 through 10 positions. Clark Gable, Gary Cooper, Spencer Tracy, James Cagney, Humphrey Bogart, Joan Crawford (wasn't she supposed to be box office poison?) Bette Davis (ditto?).

And there's a number of lighter weight, but still excellent actors in there who appeal to adult sensibilities, such as William Powell, Myrna Loy, Greer Garson, and Tyrone Power.

I am amazed that Cary Grant only made the top 10 once during those years, a very low number 9 position in 44.

Speaking of box office poison, I notice Katherine Hepburn never cracked the top 10 during that decade, even though she made a lot of terrific films in that era.

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I also just noticed Claudette Colbert, Errol Flynn, and Rogers and Astaire in there. I'd be happy to watch a TCM movie with any of those actors any day of the week.

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I bet someone could write an interesting academic paper on the differences between the comedy in Hollywood past vs. comedy today. I'll put up The Rascals and Marx Brothers; films like "His Girl Friday," and Bugs Bunny against anything today. Plus I've left out the more contemporary comedies of Peter Sellers, Mel Brooks, Monty Python....

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The family and I ripped through the Little Rascals box set over the holidays. Spanky McFarland was the Mozart of cinema.

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IMDB lists 7 movies for him in 1944-45, and I've only heard of 2 of them: The White Cliffs of Dover and Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo. I've never heard of either of those being a huge box office hit. It makes me wonder about the rest of the list.

I didn't remember the oooo-WOW sound until I watched the YouTube clip, but as soon as I did, I was transported back to being 7 years old again.

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The perception that movies are "worse now" is due to people being aware of pretty much every movie released right now good or bad, whereas the dreck of the 1930s is long, long forgotten. So long forgotten that people pretend it didn't exist at all. Some of the most wretched movies I've ever seen were produced in the Golden Age of Hollywood.

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The general audiences of those decades didn't recognize that screwball comedies, gangster movies, film noirs, and other genre movies were more artistic than the most popular of the popular dreck. Remember that lots of movies seen as classics today--BRINGING UP BABY--were flops at the time.

As noted above, the single appearance of Grant, the epitome of the movie star, is telling.

Meanwhile, look at Wally Beery's credits for this period and explain what he's doing on the 1940 list: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000891

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The one Little Rascals short that really made us laugh was the one where they learned the story of the magic lamp, and they're all rubiing every type of lamp ever created. Spanky's rubbing his, repeating, "I wish I had a monkey, I wish I had a monkey", which morphed into "I wish Cotton (presumably Stymie's brother) was a monkey." Finally, he turns to Cotton and says matter-of-factly, "I wish you were a monkey, Cotton," and Cotton just as matter-of-factly replies, "OK." We kept pausing and going back to Cotton's line delivery over and over again to laugh our asses off.

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