Them Old Suspenders
20th Century Fox has nailed down Oliver Stone to direct a sequel to his 1987 hit Wall Street, which was called Money Never Sleeps when Stephen Schiff wrote the original script. Variety‘s Michael Fleming says Shia LaBeouf is negotiating to join Michael Douglas, who naturally will play the legendary Gordon “greed is good” Gekko. Allan Loeb (21) is credited in Fleming’s story as the writer, but my understanding is that he’s the rewrite/reshuffle/touch-up guy. Edward R. Pressman is producing.
Quoting from my 3.8.09 piece about this: “In February’s Conde Nast Portfolio Amy Wallace wrote about last year’s decision by 20th Century Fox to rewrite Schiff’s Money Never Sleeps, an allegedly sturdy Wall Street sequel with Michael Douglas again playing Gekko. Stephen Frears (The Queen) wanted to direct Schiff’s script and everything looked good.
“But after last fall’s financial collapse Fox decided Schiff’s script ‘suddenly felt out of touch,’ according to production co-prexy Alex Young, so they hired Loeb to make it more reflective of today’s meltdown vibe.”
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Shia Lebeouf is the new Giovanni Ribisi. And five or seven years from now somebody will be the new Shia Lebeouf.
So, was Giovanni Ribisi the new Charlie Sheen? And was Saving Private Ryan actually Hot Shots: Part Trois?
Geez, I hope not. I couldn’t handle a Ribisi reboot of Two and a Half Men five years from now.
With Stone onboard, I’m still not interested. Remember the last time Shia LaBeouf co-starred in a sequel to a film released twenty years earlier? Didn’t turn out so well did it?
I refer, of course, to Indiana Jones and the Whatever the Hell It Was Called.
Oohhh, you mean the one where he got hit in the nuts by bushes and swung like Tarzan?
Stone is too old. The guy should retire already, he’s done his work, played his part, and is way past his prime. W. anyone? But could be interesting.
Has there ever been an actor to reprise an Oscar winning role in a sequel that didn’t suck? Anthony Hopkins in Hannibal, Shirley MacLaine in The Evening Star, Tommy Lee Jones in U.S. Marshalls, etc.
Well I’m in. It’ll be good to see Douglas back in action (instead of a supporting gig in a Matthew McConaughey vehicle!!). This’ll be make-or-break time for Shia, either he steps up to the plate and shows he’s got the stuff as a dramatic leading man, or he splats miserably.
“Variety’s Michael Fleming says Shia LaBeouf is negotiating to join Michael Douglas”
I guess they don’t mind it bombing.
Jeff: “Shia Lebeouf is the new Giovanni Ribisi. ”
I think Shia’s a little more successful than Giovanni…I’m guessing a better analogy would be comparing Shia to Chris O’Donnell.
“Has there ever been an actor to reprise an Oscar winning role in a sequel that didn’t suck?”
I actually thought there would be, but it’s pretty hard to find one. Bing Crosby got nominated for ‘The Bells of St. Marys’, and apparently there was some talk he might win, but I can’t imagine why they’d think he’d win a second Oscar the year after winning the first one for the same part.
So it did happen once, maybe. More than 60 years ago.
Paul Newman in “The Color of Money”?
Michael Douglas can pull it off even at his age now. (I know he’s not that old) Wouldn’t Ryan Phillippe who is a good actor better for the movie than Shia??
Shia and Ribisi are both 10 million times better actors than Chris O’Donnell and Ryan Philippe. Was I the only one who saw Stop-Loss? Oh right, I was!
Nonononono!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IXCK1EyP4s
“Paul Newman in “The Color of Money”?”
The question is reprising an Oscar winning role, not winning an Oscar for reprising a role.
Don Ameche in Cocoon: The Return? Hells yes.
(No, you’re right).
Shia is overrated yet he still gets work and with great people Spielberg etc.. I don’t get it….
Ribisi’s never had the fan base or following of Shia.
Shia is easily replaceable with Hirsch or McAvoy. What this thread should be concentrating on is who out there is the new Oliver Stone. Cuz current Stone isn’t apt.
Shia was great in A Guide To Recognizing Your Saints. He’s alright.
Sneider: O’Donnell is alright, but I’ll agree with you on Philippe. I’m still wondering why he has a career. He’s the Justin Chatwin of the 90s.
“Has there ever been an actor to reprise an Oscar winning role in a sequel that didn’t suck?”
We’ll find out next summer when Daniel Day Lewis brings us “There Will Be MORE Blood”.
Directed by McG.
DZ- Good call on the Chatwin/Phillipe. Although, Phillipe is the weakest link, I still like him in Way of the Gun.
The answer to the question is The Bells of St. Mary’s.
So, Wells, are YOU excited for the sequel? I think it’s going to be good and interesting… I cannot wait.
Isn’t there also going to be a sequel for The Departed, as well?
Stone is too old. The guy should retire already, he’s done his work, played his part, and is way past his prime. W. anyone? But could be interesting.
I liked W. and I hate Bush. A movie that reminds us all that Josh Brolin can never be ugly even when he’s playing a dumb drunk piece of shit.
Even if the story has Douglas grooming some young up-and-comer, Shia is still too young, I think. And, too much of a pussy, of course. What is needed is Douglas + Ryan Gosling + Stone in old-school gonzo mode….Gekko goes into Madoff-like waters, taking Gosling with him….visits to strip clubs and coke binges ensue….
How is Shia too young? He’s older than Sheen was in the original.
How is Shia too young? He’s older than Sheen was in the original.
He looks young — which matters the most in Hollywood movies what you look like.
“The answer to the question is The Bells of St. Mary’s. ”
See Comment #12
“…blah blah blah never judge a man BY THE SIZE OF HIS WAAAAAAAALLET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
TELDAR PAPER FUCK YEAH.
Also that part where GENERAL ZOD brings the fucking ownage is off the hook.
Woody Allen has reprised Alvy Singer about 25 times with varying success. In all seriousness, I think this movie might rock. But Gekko has to be totally unrepentant.
KNEEEEEEEEEEEEEL before Sir Larry Wildman.
Bring Zod back. And McGinley.
Fuck, ANYTHING to get McGinley back to awesome movies instead of mugging on some terrible shitcom.
The assholes and scumbags who work on Wall Street don’t look like Shia. They look like Matt Damon. Or Ryan Gosling. Or Zac Efron. Or those two fuckers on The Suite Life of Zac and Cody.
Even though there haven’t been many Oscar winning whatever, there have been plenty of sequels to 80′s franchises. Unless I’m simply forgetting one, they’ve all met with a fairly good critical and commercial reception. (Anything beyond that is entirely subjective.)
If any 80′s character is ideal for a money-grabbing sequel, it’s Gordon Gecko.
Shia LeBoef? is this a joke?
oh boy. there goes the franchise.
Again – what’s wrong with Shia? He’s alright.
Wall Street douchebags in real life are pudgy and cunty. The occasional thin one looks like Armie Hammer, a despicable turd who was recently linked with Batman (!!!) in that abortion of a Justice League project. He can currently be seen shitting up Gossip Girl (!!!) in the role of Some Twat smashing the sensational Blake Lively.
Blake Lively has the looks to be a major Hollywood star. Sadly for her, she is annoying and has a crap voice.
In conclusion: Friday Night Lights > Gossip Girl.
In other news, Jamie Lee Curtis is currently starring in Activia yogurt ads. She even has a nickname – “The Activia Lady”. She must be so pleased!
Philippe was excellent in Breach, and the only good thing about Crash.
Shia is a much bigger star than Ribisi ever was.
Stone is as washed up as Cameron Crowe, so this movie will probably suck.
Oliver Stone looks like he’s back on his meds … never a good sign.
I just hope Stone casts Thandie Newton as Condi Rice in every movie from now until he retires. Because I want to see the single worst performance in the history of cinema reprised as often as possible.
His douche factor is certainly debatable, but are there people still debating Shia’s stardom? He opens DJ Caruso movies for fucks sake. He’s gonna be with us for a minute.
I don’t have any particular beef with Shia, but he really does look too young and not like a proper Wall Street douche.
Also, Blake Lively
I haven’t seen it, so feel free to shoot me down… but isn’t The French Connection II supposed to be kind of OK?
So, Wells, are YOU excited for the sequel? I think it’s going to be good and interesting… I cannot wait.
Isn’t there also going to be a sequel for The Departed, as well?
I would happily watch 30 straight new hours of Friday Night Lights before anything else currently available on film or tv
and Shia LaDouche is horrible – bad choice
Stone has definitely been off his game lately. I think the last movie he directed that I fully loved was the very un-Stone-likeU-Turn, which a lot of people despised. Alexander had some truly great moments, but was a bloated, unfocused mess.
Any Given Sunday, World Trade Center, and W were all very meh to me, which is probably the first sign that he’s starting to lose it. Still, credit where credit’s due, the man had a great run for about 10 years from the mid-80s to the mid-90s. Even by conservative estimates, he made at least 3 masterpieces in that short period — possibly even twice that depending on your taste.
French Connection 2 happens to be near the top of my Netflix queue. Just felt like seeing it again– can’t remember why. (Oh, yeah, Walter Chaw.)
Ask again next week.
I thought ‘Any Given Sunday’ was very Stone-y, but I haven’t seen it since it came out. There was something off about devoting his style to something as obviously trivial as pro football, but it had something most sports movies never have.
I agree on about all those points, Gordon. Also, there were some really distracting errors (breaking continuity, NFL rules, disorienting editing) that really diminished that experience for me.
There was actually a site devoted to listing all the NFL rules the film broke, and the sheer multitude was astonishing. You would think they would have a research department to catch at least some of those gaffs. Love Stone, love the NFL…somehow found that to be a pretty mediocre film (although — unlike some of his more recent features — it was “Stone-like”, as you mention).
I consider Any Given Sunday the last quality Oliver Stone movie. It’s overall pretty light and Hollywoody, but it’s got some poignant scenes (inches speech) and it’s never dull.
I don’t expect anything from Oliver on Wall Street 2 though. It’s not his baby and he has lost his cinematic passion. W. was just a sad experience to watch. It felt so small and rushed. A TV movie of the week.
I’ve been wondering if Bob Richardson wasn’t the real genius behing Stone’s great run in the 90′s (Any Given Sunday still had some cinematic flair, but it definitely went out with Alexander). Did Richardson and Stone fall out after U-Turn? I wish they’d work together again, that’d make Wall Street 2 exciting. And yeah, give Stone some smart drugs and mushrooms and throw away his meds.
Tommy Lee Jones in U.S. MARSHALLS = AWESOMENESS
The great Sam Gerard!
YES, I AM.
And he always gets his man!
YES, I DO.
The French Connection II is fantastic. Worthy sequal to a great film and it has one of the top five best endings I have ever seen.
Tommy Lee Jones in U.S. MARSHALLS = AWESOMENESS
French Connection II is great, just watched it again last week. Worth it for the cold turkey sequences alone.
I agree with the people above who enjoyed FC2. Very well done. Frankenheimer and Friedkin were two total bad-ass action movie directors.
Funny video! Ha ha.
yeah i don’t get the shia hate either- i think he’s good as he can be in most things, but Wall Street? horrible casting.
“Did Richardson and Stone fall out after U-Turn?”
‘Killer Instinct’ has an anecdote told in passing that I always thought was interesting. That book says that Richardson wasn’t particularly interested in working on ‘NBK’, but Stone convinced him to by saying he could use all the crazy film stock stuff they do in that. It didn’t sound as if they weren’t getting along, more like Richardson just felt that the collaboration had gone as far as it could go and he wanted to work with other people [I've always wondered, though, if he resented Stone getting credit for a visual style that, in retrospect, seems largely to come from Richardson].
It’s possible that they had a falling out over a specific thing, but it also sounds like it could just be that they were already on borrowed time. (I just looked on the IMDb and saw that Richardson is shooting ‘Pinkville’, and I thought, “Oh, wow, they’re gonna work together again!” except that Stone isn’t directing Pinkville anymore.)
French Connection II is great, just watched it again last week. Worth it for the cold turkey sequences alone.
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