comment #1

George Prager says ...

He's more than a sullen asshole. I've heard some things. Psychotic bipolar pothead is more like it.

comment #2

MilkMan says ...

Sorry, Billy. Blood in, blood out, you know? You are what you make you're living at. And speaking of douchey wannabe rock dilletantes, has anyone seen the freaking Bacon Bros. perform? I was feeding my newborn and watching Ellen about three weeks ago and Kev and his talentless bro were on, singing their sub-bad bar boogie, and friends, I am here to tell you that they were right horrible. If you hired them to play your wedding you would ask for your money back.

comment #3

George Prager says ...

How is Thornton different from all the actors in the 60s who made albums? I'm thinking of such scary musical talents such as Lorne Greene, Greg Morris, Richard Chamberlain, Richard Harris, William Shatner...I think they knew that they sucked.

comment #4

MilkMan says ...

Does anyone else thinks this looks fake? Or is it just me indulging in my worst phildickian tendencies? Because this looks scripted to me.

comment #5

dangovich says ...

I was getting that vibe too, Milkman. Something is strange about all the cutting that's going on.

comment #6

MilkMan says ...

It's all the cuts to the reaction shots. That's what it is. Am I being absurd? Can we please get someone with some cred to confirm what I am saying? Not that you don't have cred, Dangovich, because you do. I'm just saying a chorus of two is not enough.

comment #7

MilkMan says ...

BTW: I know I'm a tool for listening to the radio at work, but do they really have to play Dire Straits on three diff. stations at the same time?

comment #8

George Prager says ...

Listen to NPR. Oh, I forgot, MilkMan comes from uneducated white trash.

comment #9

MilkMan says ...

And judging from his music, I would say that he needs to smoke stronger pot.

comment #10

vulgar71 says ...

I think this is their Joaquin-Phoenix-like bit.

comment #11

MilkMan says ...

Jesus Christ, George. What's up with the trash talk, man?

comment #12

Ghost072 says ...

I agree. This seems way staged, if for no other reason than Thornton's responses. The Famous Monsters of Filmland answer made me laugh out loud, but even his first few "I don't know what you mean" answers are so removed from reality that this almost has to be a Spinal Tap type spoof. Ironically, the other guy in the band seems pretty right so he may be a better actor than Thornton. Could Billy Bob just be really wacked out on a pharmaceutical cocktail?

comment #13

Sabina E says ...

publicity stunt, maybe?

comment #14

Deathtongue_Groupie says ...

Actually, looks pretty real.

Watch the other members at the start, they are all withdrawn and hesitant. You really get the vibe that they could tell something was going to happen, that perhaps Thorton was already acting "off" in the green room so they knew it was going to be a bad gig.

comment #15

Ryansi51 says ...

i actually got confirmation. he's just a fucking prick.

comment #16

MilkMan says ...

Is it juvenile of me to think that someone who has an Oscar and who nailed Angelina when she was at her hottest and who gets to spend his spare time pretending to be Waylon Jennings should be pretty much happy all of the time? Or is that not how life works? And if that's not how life works, then I don't want to know how it does work.

comment #17

CitizenKanedforChewingGum says ...

"Actually, looks pretty real.

Watch the other members at the start, they are all withdrawn and hesitant. You really get the vibe that they could tell something was going to happen, that perhaps Thorton was already acting "off" in the green room so they knew it was going to be a bad gig."

Agreed.

comment #18

Circumvrent says ...

I count 7 different camera angles. That seems like a lot for a Canadian Radio Show.

comment #19

dinovelvet says ...

I don't know what his problem is, exactly, but I still marvel at how the tubby, bald, buck-toothed guy circa Tombstone turned into a leading man who bagged Angelina.

comment #20

CitizenKanedforChewingGum says ...

I'm with Deathtongue on this one.

I feel BBT is a usually fascinating actor and sometimes director (love Sling Blade, but given the anemic box office of his films, not sure he'll be making too many more), but that often comes with a price.

That price is BBT appears as though he is probably a miserable fuck to be around a fair portion (majority?) of the time.

comment #21

berkguru says ...

He accomplished what was probably one of his main goals (besides his inherent asshole tendencies) - to get the world talking about his crappy band.

comment #22

Daviddb says ...

I love how BB puts himself on the same playing field as Tom Petty. Along with bipolar, psychotic, pothead, you can add delusional dickhead. Unless he was doing a Joaquin Phoenix parody which I doubt, b/c the host sure wasn't in on the joke...

When the Bacon Brothers came to my town a couple of years ago to play House of Blues I was invited to interview them but I couldn't ask Kev anything about his acting career. I passed, b/c really when it comes right down to it, who gives a shit about their horrible music? It's not enough to be a really good actor because it isn't artistically satisfying enough for you so you have to trash your real talent and embarrass yourself by playing unlistenable and unsellable noise.

comment #23

berkguru says ...

by the way, gotta love that he views himself in the same mold as Tom Petty. That's an ego for you.

comment #24

Gordon27 says ...

"(love Sling Blade, but given the anemic box office of his films, not sure he'll be making too many more)"

From what I've heard, it has more to do with his miserable experience making 'All The Pretty Horses' and his ongoing feud with Weinstein which led to him not wanting to direct anymore (though there were talks a few years back about him directing again).

The grosses just mean that nobody's trying to talk him into it.

comment #25

MickTravis says ...

I like how he implies he's on par with Tom Petty. Am I alone?

comment #26

Gordon27 says ...

I gotta give credit to the host, BTW, for openly calling him out on the idea that he's willing to use his celebrity as a shortcut past years of hard work toiling as a musician before getting any significant audience... but doesn't want to be introduced as an actor.

comment #27

Daviddb says ...

Here's a link to another interview (much shorter, 2 1/2 minutes) where the interviewer asks him the SAME QUESTION about his "first love" except this time, he didn't act like a prima donna asshole...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOLiColBrrY

comment #28

MilkMan says ...

Joaquin Phoenix's performance in Two Lovers is the best by an American Actor this decade behind Daniel Day-Lewis in TWBB.

comment #29

MilkMan says ...

Pardon me; by an ENGLISH-SPEAKING actor.

comment #30

BoshBarnetWonkyDonkey says ...

That was ace. The host did really well - never backing down or grovelling, and always remaining polite in the face of extreme wankery.

I like BBT as an actor. Friday Night Lights and The Man Who Wasn't There are probably my favourites.

comment #31

Filthy Rich says ...

It's definitely not staged. Jian Ghomeshi is well known radio personality up here in Canada and they broadcast it visually as well.

I think he handled it well considering her probably wanted to punch Thornton in the head as my as we did watching.

The rest of his band looked incredibly uncomfortable throughout the whole thing.

comment #32

Gaydos says ...

I have seen my share of insufferably pretentious frontmen in my day, but this is now the gold standard. Major difference with BB and the others; most of them had some talent. All hat here, no cattle.

comment #33

Deathtongue_Groupie says ...

To play devil's advocate based on a friend's personal interaction, Thorton is one of those artists whose attitude seems to depend on his mood.

A female friend who works in radio and isn't a skinny, young, pretty little thing was his handler a few years ago when he was a guest at the old KZLA (now KMVN and being sold to Mexican group). She said he was very friendly, sociable and generous.

Perhaps he was on his meds...

comment #34

Mark says ...

What unfortunately gets lost in all of the this is the music, which BTW, is fucking phenominal. I just finished their last 4 albums, all recorded within 72 days of each other. If you considered them a compilation, i would place it as the 4th best album ever, behind Sgt Pepper, Astral Weeks, and Daniel Day Lewis in TWBB.

comment #35

Hickenlooper says ...

This is definitely not an act. It's the same kind of creepy shit I had to deal with while directing Billy Bob in the original SLING BLADE short. While the world was charmed by his faux hilly billy hokum, the guys is really nothing more than a sad, unhappy, bi polar misanthrope. Wath the guys in the band in this interview. They are shell shocked. Like kids who pretend everything is okay in an abusive alcoholic family. Abusive is the key emotion I remember from back in 1994. Seeing this makes the hair stand on the back of my neck. This guy has put out so much bad karma it's eventually going to catch up with him.

comment #36

JD says ...

Just got back from the Willie Nelson concert and BB's band did a pretty terrific job. Billy Bob spoke to the crowd a bit and even indirectly talked about acting (he said "hi" to an actor he'd worked with in the crowd). In any case, he always been openly odd/eccentric. In fact, pretty much all he used to talk about in interviews were his superstitions, insecurities, etc.

comment #37

TheJeff says ...

Mr. Hickenlooper's candor is much appreciated. I think we all suspected as much about BBT.

It sounds like the poor band is quite talented. They should look for a new drummer.

comment #38

Chris Willman says ...

I interviewed Billy Bob at Telluride when "Sling Blade" (the feature) premiered there. I mentioned to the publicist that I'd seen the short, which I figured was incredibly good fortune, since probably no other journalist there had. I was warned in no uncertain terms that if I even alluded to Hickenlooper's short, Billy Bob would become violently angry, and I had to vow not to mention it. Of course, he was so completely ingratiating, in a new-best-friend kind of way, that, at the time, I wondered if it was the publicist who was a little nutty. But I always wondered what would've happened if I'd had the nerve. I guess George knows...

comment #39

Gordon27 says ...

"I was warned in no uncertain terms that if I even alluded to Hickenlooper's short"

Funny, how he managed to accept the Best *Adapted* Screenplay, isn't it? And by funny, I mean comically hypocritical.

If I remember right, when 'Sling Blade' hit, there were stories all over where a lot of actors who were well known, prominent assholes who had either worked with him or studied acting with him along the way talked openly about how much of an asshole he was. I remember thinking, either he's really cool and calls out assholes and that's why they hate him, or, more likely (increasingly so), he's such an asshole that even assholes think, "What an asshole."

comment #40

JD says ...

Actually, Billy Bob only drummed on one song. He was the singer for the rest of the set. And to be fair, he really was a musician back before he broke into acting or screenwriting. I remember seeing profiles of him all the way back in the Sling Blade days that said as much. If he was good enough for Warren Zevon, he's good enough for me.

comment #41

Gordon27 says ...

Can you actually hear him on that Zevon track he's credited on? 'Cause I sure can't pick out his voice in there.

comment #42

Mark says ...

talk about a win-win. great great day for both QTV and The Box Masters. and i doubt it serves as any tipping point that brings down Billy either.

comment #43

TVMCCA says ...

Why am I reminded of a certain profile of Robert Mitchum (who had his issues with interviewers) in a 1982 issue of ESQUIRE?

comment #44

frankbooth says ...

MilkMan,

That's not how life works.

You don't want to know how it does work.

comment #45

Hickenlooper says ...

This is really ancient history for me and I harbor no bad feelings towards Billy Bob. I just don't think the record was ever really set straight. At the time, Thornton's people spun it in a way that made it sound like I was passed over by Billy Bob in directing the feature version. The reality is I walked away. I couldn't stomach his abusiveness. When the feature was a hit, I considered filing a law suit (without the success of the short the feature would never have been made), but Thornton was such a media darling that it would have been too damaging for me to pursue it. There is no question that this man is a great talent. He also has many warm, endearing qualities that are genuine. With that said, there is a dark side to him, an extremely dark side, that is cruel and irrational. This will be my last word on the subject. It always kind of amazed me that the Oscar he won for Best Adapted Screenplay was based on "a play" that never existed. "Pearls Before Swine" was a one man show in which Karl's monologue was only one of many characters Thornton played. The reality is the feature was based on the short which I had directed and which Billy Bob never wanted anyone to know about, nor know about my contribution. It always hurt me a great deal, considering the fact of how much I gave to launch this guy's career in film. Regardless, I liked the feature. Though had I directed it, I would have given Karl less of a Disney quality. In the short I think he's a much more interesting and compelling character. Just my opinion for whatever it's worth...

comment #46

Gordon27 says ...

"At the time, Thornton's people spun it in a way that made it sound like I was passed over by Billy Bob in directing the feature version"

I actually remember the spin being much harsher towards you, to be honest, something along the lines of BBT feeling that you hadn't gotten it right or something to that effect.

Which always seemed bizarre, considering how closely the feature recreated the short.

Thanks for jumping into the thread, George. That was interesting...

comment #47

Rich S. says ...

"I was warned in no uncertain terms that if I even alluded to Hickenlooper's short, Billy Bob would become violently angry"

Reminds me of how you should never play "Pop Goes the Weasel" to Curly Howard.

comment #48

Tim says ...

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comment #49

mike says ...

First MilkMan, we never played the Ellen show (rejected). The song, Go My Way, is funk and not boogie so before you spout off on a blog about music and make such an ignorant statement I'd consult with Billy Bob about musical styles. Second, I mostly felt bad for those guys in the band who have to carry the weight of Mr. Thorton's pain around to interviews and then play music minus one. Billy Bob, that's cruel. Third, when we do interviews we always talk about movies, 6 degrees.org, footloose-it comes with the territory. We also talk about music and it usually turns into a satisfying balance. The interviewer handled this well, I'd do his show anytime. Mike Bacon

comment #50

George Prager says ...

Calling Billy Bob a legit musician because he was on a Warren Zevon song is like calling Jim Bouton an actor because he was in THE LONG GOODBYE.

And did you get that, MilkMan? "Go My Way" is funk, not boogie!

comment #51

rr3333 says ...

Welcome Mike! Dont let the bastards get you down.

BTW: Nicholas Cage called. He wants his hair back from Billy Bob.

comment #52

rr3333 says ...

Hickenlooper: I know its healthy not to hold a grudge against anyone, but Thornton could've really helped your career and didnt (and was nasty about it too). I wouldnt be so forgiving, so you're a better man than me.

comment #53

Joshua Mooney says ...

Ugh. Truly painful to watch. Appreciate GH's insights. BB "dated" a friend of mine while he was married to the one right before Angelina, and he was quite the difficult piece of work, as I recall. Somehow, I can't muster much compassion for someone's illness when it manifests itself as nastily as it does here.

comment #54

rr3333 says ...

We all know Billy Bob is nuts, but if he really wants to be treated/respected as a musician, and not the dirty word called 'actor/director', why didnt he perform with his band?

comment #55

Mark says ...

This thread is pulling everyone in. Hopefully we hear from Tom Petty and the ghosts of Warren Zevon and Robert Mitchum before its over.

comment #56

George Prager says ...

He's also a novelist, symbolist poet, action painter, photographer and saucier. He was all those things before SLING BLADE. It's this fuckin' movie stardom that's holding him back. Pain in the ass.

comment #57

rr3333 says ...

Billy Bob couldnt get a gig performing at Tom Petty's grandkids bar mitzvah (If little Petty had converted, of course).

The Bacon Bros. would be on third standby in case Keanu Reeves or Russell Crowe's Band couldnt make it (Personal shout out apology to Michael Bacon. The MilkMan made me do it).

comment #58

The Bandsaw Vigilante says ...

Could someone *please* post that SNL "Inside the Actor's Studio" sketch where all Will Ferrell does is ask Thornton about ARMAGEDDON, and Billy Bob caps Ferrell's Lipton off with a sniper rifle later on as he's walking down the street?

Think that's the kinda surliness we're seeing here, too.

comment #59

MilkMan says ...

That's not funk you guys played, Mike. Funk is Maggot Brain. You guys played prototypical Bad Bar Boogie, and maybe it wasn't on Ellen. Maybe it was Tyra. Or...no, I know who it was. It just came to me. You guys played on Rachel Ray. That's who it was.

Start another band. You on guitar, Don Swayze on Bass, Joey Travolta on Drums, and Frank Stallone singing lead vocals. Maybe you can have Jim Belushi play the harmonica. And maybe you can hire Chris Farley's bro (whose name I don't know and don't want to know) to be your Hype Man. You guys can call yourself The Coattails.

comment #60

Ryansi51 says ...

At last, we've found something that Bacon doesn't make better.

comment #61

Gaydos says ...

It's time to invoke the words of a dear friend who worked with many of the "top" directors in the business:

"You can't swing a dead cat in this town without hitting a 'genius.'"

It's a variation, I know, of what the timeless Mr. Wilder put on the screen long, long ago:

"You know, a dozen press agents working overtime can do terrible things to the human spirit. "

comment #62

Joe M. says ...

Billy Bob's "Famous Monsters of Filmland" spiel isn't nearly as funny if you consider he was deiberately trying to sabotage the interview with an inane story unrelated to music. Kind of chilling, actually.

Anyway, the AP has picked this up, using a headline that says "Joaquin Phoenix II?" I wonder if all this will turn into yet another topic that will be off-limits during future interviews.

comment #63

TVMCCA says ...

George Prager wrote:
Calling Billy Bob a legit musician because he was on a Warren Zevon song is like calling Jim Bouton an actor because he was in THE LONG GOODBYE.

Billy Bob sang the Zevon song "The Wind" on the Zevon tribute album ENJOY EVERY SANDWICH.

And Bouton could be called an actor since he was also in a short-lived sitcom based on BALL FOUR.

comment #64

moveable hype says ...

What a cunt. Some one is finally willing to pimp Billy Bob's music career and this is how he thanks him.

comment #65

George Prager says ...

A tribute album? That's even more pathetic. And yes, Bouton played himself in the sitcom BALL FOUR. Something tells me that he didn't act like an asshole if someone brought up his baseball career in an interview. FUCK YOU THORNTON!!!!!!!!! YOU'RE A FUCKING LOSER!!!!!

comment #66

Chad says ...

Maybe the wireless in his hotel didn't work.

comment #67

mike says ...

Hi MilkMan,
I'm gonna break it down for you-boogie is Jerry Lee Lewis, funk is James Brown. Send me you address and I'll send you our latest CD. If you hate it, throw it away.

M

comment #68

Deathtongue_Groupie says ...

Well, hell mike if you are going to toss out free CDs.... LOL

comment #69

Gordon27 says ...

"Billy Bob's "Famous Monsters of Filmland" spiel isn't nearly as funny if you consider he was deiberately trying to sabotage the interview with an inane story unrelated to music."

I believe it's prompted by the questions about what he was interested in as a child, because he finds the questions degrading or whatever.

comment #70

frankbooth says ...

Does this mean we can now use MilkMan when we play the six degrees Kevin Bacon game?

comment #71

DavidF says ...

This show tapes in Toronto so maybe we should consider that he's upset because some barbarians stole the iPhone he left on the table at Starbucks while taking a leak....

comment #72

RRRRRRRRRR says ...

Jesus, what a dickweed. That guy is in such dire need of a sound ass beating. He better get in line with Phoenix, Penn and Cruise. It's idiots like Billy Bonehead that make the general public view actors as trite, sanctimonious, self righteous children. The Boxmasters? Nah, I think Douchemasters is more like it. Billy Bob is definitly the leader of that "band"....

comment #73

Armin Tamzarian says ...

does MilkMan have a blog?

comment #74

driving_miss_daisy says ...

What a thread .... Couldn't watch this video at work - but just watched now. Wow. Hats off to Jian. Wonder if he was pondering just ending the interview - even if it was live, saying good bye to the lads, good luck - and playing Tom Petty music the rest of the segment? I suppose he had to carry it on to the bitter end .. but imagine he was seething inside.

Jian was respectful to the entire band, and as pointed out already Boxmaster would not be there for any other reason than BBT's fame. That's the reality. And BBT couldn't bother his arse to bring some version of a drum kit? That's disrespectful to the host. I am shocked at both the behaviour of BBT in an on-air situation like that and how, apparently, he is so often like this and worse.

comment #75

the_coattails_HA_HA says ...

Billy Boxmaster has us talking. So he may be crazy, but he wins. That is how the world works, Milkman. I'll be chuckling about "The Coattails" for weeks. Stay wrankled MM. It makes you funny.

comment #76

Chris Willman says ...

The upshot is that, after being booed last night when BBT called the interviewer "an asshole" from the stage, the Boxmasters are off the rest of the Willie Nelson tour, as of today (as confirmed on Willie's website).

http://www.theboot.com/2009/04/10/billy-bob-thornton-booed-in-canada?icid=sphere_wpcom_inline

comment #77

driving_miss_daisy says ...

Thanks for that update Chris - it made my day to see Mr. BBT get live feedback from the crowd telling him what everyone around the worldl thought of him and his behaviour as a guest on a radio show.

comment #78

free games says ...

He's more than a sullen asshole. I've heard some things. Psychotic bipolar pothead is more like it.

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comment #81

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The Bacon Bros. would be on third standby in case Keanu Reeves or Russell Crowe's Band couldnt make it (Personal shout out apology to Michael Bacon. The MilkMan made me do it).

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comment #82

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nice post! Jian Ghomeshi is well known radio personality up here in Canada and they broadcast it visually as well. I think he handled it well considering her probably wanted to punch Thornton in the head as my as we did watching. thanks,,

comment #83

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comment #84

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