“Quentin Tarantino does not see inside movie audiences anymore”
When did he eve do so, really? Pulp Fiction made money, because 70s pop culture made a come-back in the 90s, and who better to represent that era than Travolta? Kill Bill made money, because The Matrix and CTHD were popular, and because he was able to bullshit people into thinking that he could mimic the same style of the MA movies which inspired it, but without the CG. Everything else he’s done is either a box disappointment or they appeal to critics too lazy to check out the movies which inspired them or both.
BTW, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HgbSAL8OKY now went up to four stars.
“The guy has great taste”
He only steals from the best.
Dave needs to keep working on his Colonel Kurtz impression.
DeeZee: But there was something fresh and interesting about his style with Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction. There was an energy about it; even though it was mostly just talking, he was able to build to the action quite nicely. Then he made Jackie Brown and proved he had it in him to become a truly masterful American filmmaker. Since then, he’s been gradually becoming a parody of himself. Why? Because he thinks that’s what people want to see. He’s a sell-out. And he has yet to realize that nobody cares anymore.
I really want to be open-minded about Inglourious Basterds but the more I hear about it, the more nervous I get that I’m going to be wasting two-and-a-half hours of my life on masturbation. At this point, it’s all about seeing Christoph Waltz. Otherwise, I just wish Tarantino would either grow up or go away.
i wish i was more excited for this movie
i will of course be seeing it, but i want to be foaming at the mouth for the new QT, instead of nervously anticipating it. Death Proof really sucked bilge water
Brilliant review! And I think it encapsulates the central problem of an artist who refuses to deal with growth.
It’s obvious QT loves acting, he studied it, wants to be one, therefore he writes for characters. But he overdoes it to such a degree that you want to gouge your eyes with a fork just so you can keep yourself from being butt-numbingly bored to death. If he loves dialogue so much then he should write a fucking book or how about this for a novel idea…A PLAY!!!!!! People will come Quentin, you have name recognition, as dwindling it might be, you still have it.
When I saw the trailer I thought this was going to be a WWII action movie with a bunch of guys on a mission, but holy shit does this review piss me off. 5 sequences stretched out over a 150 minute length. C’MON!!!! Its over buddy. Either you grow up or find another medium to indulge your tastes. I’m not going to pay 12.50 for a gab fest on the fine art of bashing Nazi skullsb when in fact I’ll probably be getting only a minute out of an entire length of 150 FUCKING MINUTES!!! I’m sorry but that irritates me, the pomposity of this man.
But in the end I really do feel sorry for those who financed an infantile scared to step out of his own pool. Because once word gets out that this is just a talkfest, forget it, game. But the damage is already done, you think people are gonna pass up 15 minutes of free Imax 3D footage of Avatar opening on the same day? And watch Fox extend it for the entire weekend. Poor Harvey…poor indeed.
I could be wrong, but I feel that after Pulp Fiction, QT stopped being relevant. That’s 15 years and counting…
This clip perfectly captures everything that is wrong with Jeff Wells and David Poland. They can’t decide if they’re a) cinephiles who maintain websites so they can articulate their personal praise and derision for the movies they see or b) detached industry observers who are simply issuing consumer reports intended to understand what mainstream audiences want and tell them where to get it. As far as I’m concerned, the box office viability of a film is basically irrelevant to me. I don’t care what other people like. I don’t choose the movies I see based on a desire to conform to mainstream tastes. And yet Poland/Wells insist on reviewing every film in relation to its accessibility (To appear in touch? To generate traffic and appeal to those who don’t grasp challenging cinema?). Get out of Hollywood, guys. It’s fucking you up.
The same year Pulp came out another well received crime thriller that played around with linear story telling came out…The Usual Suspects. I find it telling that I probably watch US once a year but haven’t seen PF in years and don’t have any mounting interest in doing so as time goes by. US is tightly written and acted and holds up. PF just comes across as masturbation in hindsight.
Hope Inglourious rekindles my interest in QT.
Well said, JD.
I do love Poland’s use of photography basics – “background middleground foreground”. Excellent placement of the candle in the foreground to create that much needed depth!
That is telling, renorambler. You have questionable taste. The Usual Suspects is a painfully conventional TV movie disguised as a glossy, hip indie. Whereas Pulp Fiction is a really vivid, specific, witty and personal movie with a sensibility all its own, The Usual Suspects is an utterly generic, impersonal crime movie that everyone would have forgotten if not for its gimmicky ending.
This is agonizing to watch but I think he comes off better on video than he does online – he should do much more of this.
This must be a joke. Poland strains to finish sentences as if camped on the pot. He finds profundity in phrases you would say after downing your tenth beer: “that is their opinion, … and this is my opinion.” And then, of course, the framing. As if he’s trying to invite the question that viewers will debate for hours: “Egads! What genius metaphor is Poland reaching for with that candle?” As if the candle makes listening to him any more tolerable.
I’ve never met him, so I don’t know if he is this self-serious in person, but, intentional or not, this was very, very funny. For the first couple minutes, until it became irritating.
Poland’s review seems longer than Bastards.
If Bay had produced this, it would be 85 minutes long, the death count would be 10x higher and Pitt would show his bare torso at least 3 times. Goddamit! COULDA WOULDA SHOULDA!!
Suspects came out the following year.
You guys obviously did not watch the video all the way through if you keep referring to the “candle”.
lol@the Dave Poland/Colonel Kurtz comparison.
So is he stoned, or is that just the way he is? Jesus Christ. Not that he didn’t have a couple interesting things to say…but…he…took…so…long…to…say…them. I would say that’s just a clever deconstruction of his own problems with IB, but somehow that’s giving him waaaaaaaay too much credit.
Some good comments here (except for the usual DeeZee crap). I feel TulseLuper nailed my own personal feelings on the cinematic QT arc.
It’s funny, Poland states that he is giving us his opinion, but it mainly consists of his opinion of what our opinions of the film will be. You don’t have to be able to read the stars to qualify as a film reviewer, if you like a film and it’s hated by everyone, you don’t need to be able to point at how you said that it would probably be hated by everyone else in your original review, thus somehow validating your contrary opinion. Is everyone too insecure to just say “Fuck you, I liked the fucking thing and if you didn’t that’s cause you’re not me”.
And regards to Quentin Tarantino, sure he can write, sure he can direct, sure he loves movies and knows more about them than most people, but man I never give a shit what happens to anyone in his films. I can hear him pitching every scene as they play out.
I like milk.
Poland looks like Richard Gere’s older, less successful brother. He is daniel baldwin to richard gere’s alec.
He finds profundity in phrases you would say after downing your tenth beer: “that is their opinion, … and this is my opinion.”
Not that he didn’t have a couple interesting things to say…but…he…took…so…long…to…say…them
I only watched about 30 seconds of it, but thought that was the entire point/joke? (Per Wells’ title.)
I think this film is probably going to disappoint a lot of people, because they are essentially marketing it like an action film. It’s surprising how many people still expect this to be a modern update of The Dirty Dozen.
“And regards to Quentin Tarantino, sure he can write, sure he can direct, sure he loves movies and knows more about them than most people, but man I never give a shit what happens to anyone in his films.”
Well, to be fair, he does write a lot of criminals, assassins, thugs, and general lowlifes. I’d also argue that’s a pretty specious argument for not liking a film in the first place. How many of the characters in Kubrick filims do you really care about? Hitchcock?
It BOGGLES THE MIND that smart people here AND at Hot Blog seem to be baffled by Poland’s labored speech patterns in that vid.
Honestly, HOW can you not get — like, within 2 fucking seconds even if you haven’t seen the movie– that he’s doing it intentionally as a comment on the pacing and dialogue of the movie? HOW? Christ, anyone who’s seen one second of QT’s Grindhouse movie should get it within two words.
This is right up my alley. I’ve been eagerly awaiting for this movie for about one year. I drooled over the trailer and have watched this at least 10 times. I’m not a Jewish WW II veteran, but a few of my friends are. I love the strong male characters in the trailer- they remind me of my friends.
I love it. and I’m so gonna see it on opening day. I wish it would come out NOW, though.
The Expendables will probably come closer to living up to the Inglourious Basterds trailer than will IB itself.
Lex, everyone gets it — it’s just that it’s only funny for about two seconds. The rest of it is like being pinned to the wall and forced to watch the piano guy on PBS.
Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction are two of the most impoartnt films of our lifetimes. Who knows if QT will ever find another vision to match his vocabulary and his ear for dialogue. I am disinclined to see IB, mainly bc I know I won’t be able to tolerate watching Brad Pitt butcher a character the way he seems to be butchering his in the trailer.
I think Poland’s review is one of the most brilliant I’ve ever seen or read. Here’s why: He actually recreates the experience (for him) of the film he’s reviewing. Poland has posted the world’s first experiential review. It’s as if Siskel and Ebert had dressed in drag and sung their review of Victor/Victoria, or Pauline Kael had reviewed Bonnie and Clyde while Warren Beatty was going down on her O.C.
I ‘walked out’ halfway through the review, after learning that was a glass of milk in the f.g. I popped back in to see how he ended it. That seems to me how I’ll react when I get around to watching the Academy screener of IB.
Well, pls notify when Poland reviews Warren Beatty’s next film. Thx.
“Honestly, HOW can you not get — like, within 2 fucking seconds even if you haven’t seen the movie– that he’s doing it intentionally as a comment on the pacing and dialogue of the movie? HOW? Christ, anyone who’s seen one second of QT’s Grindhouse movie should get it within two words.”
Except nobody in Tarantino movies actually…….talks…….like……..this! With the exception of a few eccentric performers (Walken, Carradine), most of the characters deliver their dialogue rat-a-tat like a coked up fiends (see: the director of said films). Yeah, the pacing of Death Proof is slow as fuck, but the dialogue really isn’t, and that’s why the “gimmick” of this review is kind of one big fail for me.
Good idea, bad execution.
Except nobody in Tarantino movies actually…….talks…….like……..this!
The point wasn’t to parody Tarantino’s style, though.
If you show someone this clip, chances are, they’re going to grow impatient before 30 seconds are up. So it’s designed to make the viewer scream, “Get to the damn point already!!!”, which (I would assume) is how Poland felt during the screening.
This Poland character liked Death Proof? That invalidates any of his opinions for life. Death Proof is a top contender in my book for wost film of the decade. Inglourious Basterds looks absolutely ludicrous, boring, and ultimately worthless.
Tulse: Those movies were “fresh”, because the movies which inspired them weren’t readily available on tape. Jackie Brown only proved QT could adapt a book w/o relying as much on his Cliff-Notes; but he couldn’t deliver on a compelling story or characters without his references. He really needs to get out more, because he’s like Howard Hughes during his Ice Station Zebra phase.
Alboone: I doubt most people want to blow gas money just for 15 mins of IMAX footage, too. The Two Jules, G.I. Joe, Ponyo, and District 9 are probably going to put more butts into seats.
JD: Well, the thing is, when even die-hards like Poland can’t totally praise IB, even though he was willing to defend something niche like Death Proof, it says something about IB.
As for US, haven’t seen it, but Shawshank owns PF.
wwlkd: Not to mention Wolfenstein.
Solar: Um, no. They’re just declared important. That’s the difference.
Kane: They might speed-read through the dialogue in Death Proof, but there’s so much of it, that it ends up being slow, anyway.
It’s funny that the 3 filmmakers who inspire the highest number of negative quotes on any blog are:
The former video store clerk
The former stripper
The former Quick Stop employee.
The jealousy is as annoying as it is transparent.
No, I like(d) Kevin. But yeah, Cody’s a hack whose horror flick will probably suffer the same fate as Sophie’s Marie Antoinette flick did a few years ago. QT’s a guy who can only make friends with his worn-out 35 mm prints. So why would I want to be jealous of other people who over-clocked their 15 minutes?
“If you show someone this clip, chances are, they’re going to grow impatient before 30 seconds are up. So it’s designed to make the viewer scream, “Get to the damn point already!!!”, which (I would assume) is how Poland felt during the screening.”
Well, apparently you (understandably) grew too impatient with this clip because that’s really not how Poland felt about IB at all.
DeeZee: Because you over-clocked your 15 seconds?
“JD: Well, the thing is, when even die-hards like Poland can’t totally praise IB”
You obviously haven’t watched the clip, either (not surprising…have you ever really watched anything, ever?). Poland gives a pretty enthusiastic review to IB. He’s just less enthusiastic about its BO prospects. I don’t really understand why he spends so much time on that aspect of the film in his “review,” anyway. Isn’t the whole point of a review to express your personal opinion of whether a film works or not?
With all due respect to the Weinsteins (not really), I don’t really give a shit if the movie makes a cent. I just want to watch a movie that fires my imagination like (shut the fuck up, DeeZee): RD, Pulp, or Jackie Brown.
Kane: I actually did watch it. He seemed to only like it for what he believed QT was trying to do, not for what he would have liked to see from it as a movie-goer. And if you don’t care if it doesn’t make a cent, then you’ll never see anything from the guy again, unless he pawns his whole film library. Anyway, if you want to see stuff which fires up your imagination like those films, rent City on Fire, Band of Outsiders, and the ’77 Fun with Dick and Jane.
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