Go, Barney

Rep. Barney Frank, bless him, understands the blunt-spoken, suffer-no-fools HE spirit and vice versa. Asked during a town-hall healthcare discussion in Dartmouth why he supports President Obama’s “Nazi policy,” Frank replied as follows: “On what planet do you spend most of your time? [What you're saying is] vile, contemptible nonsense. Trying to have a conversation with you would be like trying to argue with a dining-room table.”

  • NotImpressed1Yet

    I think that was pretty much perfection!

  • Joshua Mooney

    “If I had ten divisions of those men, our troubles here would be over very quickly.”
    –Colonel Walter P. Kurtz

  • GKLondon

    Hats off to Mr Frank.

    And Mr. Mooney, I salute you sir.

  • erniesouchak

    Can we have more Barney Franks in Congress, please???

  • DeafBrownTrashPunk

    Yes, that’s right, Obama is a Nazi!! He’s rounding up all these poor, helpless Republicunts and putting them in death camps! OH NO!!!!

    Just another one of those idiots resorting to Godwin’s Law argument…. *yawn*

  • Josh Massey

    Thank God Frank was on the frontlines during the previous administration when Bush was compared to a Nazi daily.

    (This is not a defense of the latest idiot. But this kind of idiocy was far more prevalent during Bush’s presidency. Just not as widely reported).

  • Deathtongue_Groupie

    Josh, we await your video of someone calling Bush Hitler in front of Frank and him doing nothing about it.

    Yes, we know, it will be a long wait as you attempt to back up your specious reasoning.

    It’s pretty ironic when one of the few elected officials to have the stones to act like a man and speak his mind happens to be gay. If more politicians, from either party, spoke this bluntly with intelligence you might actually see things get done in this country before a crises forced it.

  • Jonas Grumby

    Oh yes, Mr. Massey, this supposes hypocrisy is one and the same.

    Perhaps you lack the nuance in your thinking to acknowledge the rather large discrepancy between calling one a person a Nazi, like President Obama (for ostensibly trying to improve the lives of others and fix a bankrupt system that is wholly unjust), as opposed to those claims regarding President Bush’s ACTUAL Nazi-like ( imperialistic, murderous, treacherous, lawless) policies because they are, or course, one and the same.

    But then again, what can one expect from a guy who links to Newsbusters? Perhaps you need to broaden your horizons, Mr. Massey.

  • MAGGA

    While calling anyone Hitler invalidates your argument and makes you look like an idiot, there IS a difference between starting a war that murders hundreds of thousands, and offering the people universal health-care. I live in a country with socialised medicine, and I would much rather be covered than dead.

  • caslab

    None of these Republicans have ever heard of Godwin’s Law?

  • mccool

    blunt-spoken, suffer-no-fools HE spirit

    Frank is certainly laudable here for smacking down that nut, but I don’t see how you can call HE a place that suffers no fools when all through the mortgage meltdown you never once took this squealing, squirming, culpable weasel to task. Not once…not him nor anyone else that might make you think critically about your party. You worship acrimonious blowhards like Olbermann and Bill Maher. Suffer no fools? What the hell are you talking about?

    You believe, honestly, that Frank has your best interests at heart? Really? Truly? He’s a lying, seething old-guard politician who should be thrown out with the lot.

  • crazynine

    Ummm, I oh-so-hate to be the one to break the bad news to everybody here, but the woman who asked this question is a *Lyndon LaRouche* supporter.

    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/view/20090819voters_air_health_care_rage_take_barney_frank_to_task_over_obama_health_care_plan/srvc=home&position=0

    http://www.larouchepac.com/pages/interviews_files/2005/050730_larouche_show.htm

    Sorry, you’ll have to hate Republicans for something else, because she and the other Obama=Hitler protesters there weren’t Republicans.

  • crazynine

    Dammit, sorry about the URL. I guess I gotta get in the habit of that stupid tinyurl thingamajig.

  • Jonas Grumby

    Yes, Crazy. But there are thousands of Republicans who have made the very same claim.

  • http://lipranzer.blogspot.com lipranzer

    “While calling anyone Hitler invalidates your argument and makes you look like an idiot, there IS a difference between starting a war that murders hundreds of thousands, and offering the people universal health-care. I live in a country with socialised medicine, and I would much rather be covered than dead.”

    Absolutely! Which is why my favorite part was when Frank mentioned he had voted against something that caused a tax increase – the Iraq War.

  • Josh Massey

    Wow, I really thought, “Now somebody will try to make the argument that Bush really was like Hitler so the comparison was apt. No, nobody will actually be that stupid.”

  • Jonas Grumby

    Stupid, really? Drawing a parallel between those two supposed hypocracies is not merely stupid, little Joshey, it shows a profound lack of intellectual dishonesty.

    Since you were the one to make the claim that the so-called Hitler naming comparison between these two is one and the same, why not provide actual examples as to how President Obama is just as much or not at all like Hitler as President Bush.

    Or, do I need to provide you with a list of glaring descrepancies between the two?

    Why don’t you go now and masturbate to the readings of Andrew Breitbart. I thinknyour small-mindedness will he better served overs there.

  • Nick

    Like most outspoken conservatives, the ones who hang out here deal with criticism by pointing the finger somewhere else instead of at themselves.

  • MAGGA

    Massey, I’m too stupid to know exactly what you’re talking about there, but if you’re talking about my post, I was not comparing Bush to Hitler and you know it. I’m simply saying it’s extra laughable to make these comparisons when you’re only talking about introducing a watered-down version of a system that is very popular in most industrialised countries.

  • mccool

    Nick, are you serious? you think conservatives here behave worse than liberals? As someone who identifies with neither, I can tell you the liberals are, generally, much more abrasive, quick to pounce, intolerant, foaming-at-the-mouth bullies than the handful of self-identified conservatives.

  • Mowkeka

    The collapse of the Democratic Party!

    Gotta love it.

  • dangovich

    mccool, do you mean on this site or in general? Because if you mean in general, then you must not be watching O’Reilly and Hannity on Fox news.

  • Travis Crabtree

    first of all, dangovich… you certainly are not watching O’Reilly on Fox news. I just had to chime in at some point and bring that up. I occasionally watch O’Reilly, never watch Hannity. Point is, while I’m not particularly defending them, it does get tiresome hearing people constantly bashing something they never even see. Admit it. You catch bits and clips from Media Matters and Huffington Post.
    Again, I’m not saying you should watch them, but quit pretending that you have.
    Fox News has its upsides and downsides, but there’s more to it than 24/7 of Hannity, O’Reilly and Beck screaming GOP talking points into the camera.
    You’d certainly admit that there’s more to CNN than Lou Dobbs. And I know you don’t hate MSNBC just because they have that awful Joe Scarbrough on it, do you.

    And crazynine…. damn you…. don’t spoil the party by bringing in the facts on that nutty woman. First they have to find out that the Obama Joker poster was done by a Palestinian Socialist and not by an angry white conservative guy, now they have to find out that this woman is actually a LaRouche-ite wing-nut and not “your average hate-filled Rethuglican”.

  • crazynine

    “Yes, Crazy. But there are thousands of Republicans who have made the very same claim.”

    Perhaps, Jonas– but these were not right-wing Republicans, but left-wing LaRouche cultists.

    Facts matter, no?

  • televisiontears

    “Admit it. You catch bits and clips from Media Matters and Huffington Post.”

    That’s terrifying, Crabtree. How do you have such intimate knowledge about the narrow scope of my personal media diet? Have you been spying on me? Fascist! Hitler!

  • DeeZee

    Josh: “But this kind of idiocy was far more prevalent during Bush’s presidency.”

    Did anti-Bush protesters also carry guns at his speeches while calling him a honkey? Anyway, in that article I see 2-4 examples on there of one random person per leftist group, while I see a lot more examples at these townhall meetings. Hell, I just saw two posters in L.A. with Obama in a black shirt with the caption “nationalize”, which I assume implies the Nationalist Socialist Party.

    Jonas: Plus Dubya’s granddad was a nazi, too.

    nine: Bullshit. Libertarians embrace the same kind of deregulation and social inequality as Republicans, but just call themselves “independent” by not aligning themselves with the religious fundie base of that party.

    mccool: Do liberals engage in character-assassination of children like Malkin?

  • DeeZee

    *Most* libertarians.

  • Travis Crabtree

    Looks like DeeZee’s been reading his HuffPo.

    You’re obviously referring to a seething op-ed the other day from someone (name escapes me… Naomi Wolff, Steve Webber, Tara Reid.?.) who was just furious that Michelle Malkin would DARE look into a little background on that adorable little girl who stood up and asked Obama (read) why Republicans were so mean and why they wanted people to die or something along those lines…

    Malkin basically just pointed out what the hardly-liberal Boston Globe had already found out… that this little girl just by some CRAZY coincidence happened to be the daughter of a large Obama supporter and donor.

    That’s the character assassination DeeZee is referring to….

    I just hope that little girl can find it in her to get past this horrible trauma.

    Kind of like having your hippy parents force you to march in a parade dressed as a skeleton and wearing a sign that says “Arms are for hugging”.

  • Travis Crabtree

    I meant “hardly-conservative” Boston Globe…… but you knew that….

  • DeeZee

    “that this little girl just by some CRAZY coincidence happened to be the daughter of a large Obama supporter and donor”

    And the reporter who soft-balled Bush happened to be a gay call-guy. Oh, and the guy who called the 2000 election in his favor happened to be his cousin.

  • DeeZee

    Oh, and this little item came from Crooks and liars. http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/081609.html

  • SpinDozer

    Facts matter, no?

    The, uh, “facts” that call LaRouche ‘ left-wing’ matter to fucktard Goldberg cultists only (in other words, ALL Goldberg cultists including 98% of those that don’t think Krautheimmer is a complete dick).

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