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Vanity Fair‘s John Lopez has gotten hold of an early draft of James Cameron‘s Oscar acceptance speech, should fortune smile. Except it’s not funny. We all know the cocky “king of the world” Cameron but that was codefied 12 years ago. Which means the Lopez thing is similar to someone repeating the old Marlon Brando-as-Marc-Antony joke (“Friends, Romans, Countrymen — I got sumpin’ I wanna tell youse”) in 1965, or twelve years after Joseph L. Mankieweicz‘s Julius Ceasar.
I’m not trying to be dull or unresponsive, but there’s simply more to Cameron than this. People resent the scope of Avatar‘s success (the haters are out in force like they were in ’98 after Titanic‘s worldwide blitzkrieg), but he’s just not the asshat that some people used to claim he was. If he were Lopez’s riff might be half-funny. Cameron up-close is a little bit like Buckminster Fuller or Arthur C. Clarke. He’s also a metaphor for what it takes to produce something really grand and far-reaching that connects with people worldwide. You can’t smiley-face and soft-shoe-shuffle your way to where Avatar is today..
I know it kinda hurts to write something that feels funny (and which your office homies insist is funny) only to hear the opposite from someone like myself. I’m sorry. I mean none harm.
You’re right Jeff, it’s not funny. I thought I was on the AICN talkbacks for a second there. It’s just lazy mainstream journalism, from people that don’t really know anything about the subject they’re mocking so they just gather together all the cliches. This is on the level of something i’d expect to see in the pages of Empire and Total Film. And seriously, the Dances With Wolves/Smurfs meme died around November-time.
You’re right Jeff, it’s not funny. I thought I was on the AICN talkbacks for a second there. It’s just lazy mainstream journalism, from people that don’t really know anything about the subject they’re mocking so they just gather together all the cliches. This is on the level of something i’d expect to see in the pages of Empire and Total Film. And seriously, the Dances With Wolves/Smurfs meme died around November-time.
What was wrong with him saying “I’m King of the World!” at the Oscars? My impression was that he said it out of good natured fun, exactly how the line is meant in the movie.
What was wrong with him saying “I’m King of the World!” at the Oscars? My impression was that he said it out of good natured fun, exactly how the line is meant in the movie.
To celebrate the largest monster to emerge from the cave….the speech must be from the heart….honest…thankful…and for god’s sake have some fun with it.
To celebrate the largest monster to emerge from the cave….the speech must be from the heart….honest…thankful…and for god’s sake have some fun with it.
He should thank Harlan Ellison and Don Bluth.
He should thank Harlan Ellison and Don Bluth.
You’re right Jeff, it’s not funny. I thought I was on the AICN talkbacks for a second there. It’s just lazy mainstream journalism, from people that don’t really know anything about the subject they’re mocking so they just gather together all the cliches. This is on the level of something i’d expect to see in the pages of Empire and Total Film. And seriously, the Dances With Wolves/Smurfs meme died around November-time.
These people are just sour because they wanted it to fail. As usual, they underestimated Jim Cameron.
I agree with MarkJ that the dances with smurfs thing got tired a week after the teaser trailer but people still pull it out thinking they’re clever.
I’ve had arguments with people who try to tell me that Cameron is a bad film-maker because the story is unoriginal. It’s insane.
JJ Abrams gets lauded for the awful Star Trek and Cameron gets slated for Avatar? Somethings gone wrong somewhere.
These people are just sour because they wanted it to fail. As usual, they underestimated Jim Cameron.
I agree with MarkJ that the dances with smurfs thing got tired a week after the teaser trailer but people still pull it out thinking they’re clever.
I’ve had arguments with people who try to tell me that Cameron is a bad film-maker because the story is unoriginal. It’s insane.
JJ Abrams gets lauded for the awful Star Trek and Cameron gets slated for Avatar? Somethings gone wrong somewhere.
“What was wrong with him saying “I’m King of the World!” at the Oscars? My impression was that he said it out of good natured fun, exactly how the line is meant in the movie.”
That moment is one of the most misrepresented moments in the history of movies. You can still watch it on YouTube and see just how awkward and poorly delivered the line was versus the depiction of it that gets bandied about as if he were standing up there all cocky and full of himself for winning Best Director, acting like an asshole with sneering pomposity. The guy just looks like a nervous dork with public speaking issues.
“What was wrong with him saying “I’m King of the World!” at the Oscars? My impression was that he said it out of good natured fun, exactly how the line is meant in the movie.”
That moment is one of the most misrepresented moments in the history of movies. You can still watch it on YouTube and see just how awkward and poorly delivered the line was versus the depiction of it that gets bandied about as if he were standing up there all cocky and full of himself for winning Best Director, acting like an asshole with sneering pomposity. The guy just looks like a nervous dork with public speaking issues.
Fortune: “I’ve had arguments with people who try to tell me that Cameron is a bad film-maker because the story is unoriginal. It’s insane.”
No, he’s just a lazy filmmaker now, which is even worse.
“JJ Abrams gets lauded for the awful Star Trek and Cameron gets slated for Avatar? Somethings gone wrong somewhere.”
Haven’t seen the Trek reboot, yet, but I’m guessing the love for it has to do more with the higher expectation of it in comparison with the prior installments than anything else.
Fortune: “I’ve had arguments with people who try to tell me that Cameron is a bad film-maker because the story is unoriginal. It’s insane.”
No, he’s just a lazy filmmaker now, which is even worse.
“JJ Abrams gets lauded for the awful Star Trek and Cameron gets slated for Avatar? Somethings gone wrong somewhere.”
Haven’t seen the Trek reboot, yet, but I’m guessing the love for it has to do more with the higher expectation of it in comparison with the prior installments than anything else.
DeeZee, you are completely insane. James Cameron is a lazy filmmaker now? He’s the hardest working filmmaker out there, bar none. WTF are you talking about?
DeeZee, you are completely insane. James Cameron is a lazy filmmaker now? He’s the hardest working filmmaker out there, bar none. WTF are you talking about?
Hey, people keep saying Scorscese this and Scorscese that … but to be honest, James Cameron is arguably more important, as important, or almost as important a film maker and story teller as Scorscese.
The backlash means nothing.
Hey, people keep saying Scorscese this and Scorscese that … but to be honest, James Cameron is arguably more important, as important, or almost as important a film maker and story teller as Scorscese.
The backlash means nothing.
Cameron’s intensely talented. But the more he talks about how Kathryn Bigelow should be the first woman to win, the more it sounds like the ex-husband is letting the little lady have her moment of glory.
Cameron’s intensely talented. But the more he talks about how Kathryn Bigelow should be the first woman to win, the more it sounds like the ex-husband is letting the little lady have her moment of glory.
Not really at all. Cameron has been friends with Bigelow FOR YEARS. He wrote the screenplay for a film of hers (Strange Days) and they’ve been part of the same crowd for a long, long time.
It’s similar to Mantle, Martin, and Ford … best friends that would wish the best for the other even if they themselves do not win an award, etc.
Not really at all. Cameron has been friends with Bigelow FOR YEARS. He wrote the screenplay for a film of hers (Strange Days) and they’ve been part of the same crowd for a long, long time.
It’s similar to Mantle, Martin, and Ford … best friends that would wish the best for the other even if they themselves do not win an award, etc.
Better speech:
“Well, who’d you expect, numbnuts?”
[Walks off stage.]
Better speech:
“Well, who’d you expect, numbnuts?”
[Walks off stage.]
Unfunny cheap shot journalism from a hack writer.
Cameron has been gracious and generous in his award season speeches and appearances. Cut the man a little slack.
Unfunny cheap shot journalism from a hack writer.
Cameron has been gracious and generous in his award season speeches and appearances. Cut the man a little slack.
You guys are squares, and a bit defensive at that.
This was just meant to be silly fun and elicit a few chuckles. I think it works on that level. C’mon — the little sketched dragon in the margin diving after a big-chinned Quentin doodle? Nothing, really?
You guys are squares, and a bit defensive at that.
This was just meant to be silly fun and elicit a few chuckles. I think it works on that level. C’mon — the little sketched dragon in the margin diving after a big-chinned Quentin doodle? Nothing, really?
DZ still hasn’t seen Star Trek?
Why is this guy allowed to say anything about movies? Has he ever been right, ever contributed something? Yeesh.
Anyway, I’m with the people who never got the big deal over ‘I’m King of the World!”
I never took it as “I rule! You suck!”
I took it as a guy (rather nerdily!) quoting his own movie in which a character is expressing, not superiority, but a moment of transcendent happiness.
I don’t Cameron has a big ego, is hard to work with etc. but that is NOT what that moment was about.
DZ still hasn’t seen Star Trek?
Why is this guy allowed to say anything about movies? Has he ever been right, ever contributed something? Yeesh.
Anyway, I’m with the people who never got the big deal over ‘I’m King of the World!”
I never took it as “I rule! You suck!”
I took it as a guy (rather nerdily!) quoting his own movie in which a character is expressing, not superiority, but a moment of transcendent happiness.
I don’t Cameron has a big ego, is hard to work with etc. but that is NOT what that moment was about.
DeeZee, you are completely insane. James Cameron is a lazy filmmaker now? He’s the hardest working filmmaker out there, bar none. WTF are you talking about?
I’d be pretty damn excited if he took the Best Picture trophy and said you all owe me for saving your asses.
Peace!
I’d be pretty damn excited if he took the Best Picture trophy and said you all owe me for saving your asses.
Peace!
What a bunch of kiss-ass pussies you all are. It was very funny.
What a bunch of kiss-ass pussies you all are. It was very funny.
mark: “He’s the hardest working filmmaker out there, bar none.”
Yeah, he spent 10 years in a sub, and all we got was a stupid action figure movie.
PCP: “but to be honest, James Cameron is arguably more important, as important, or almost as important a film maker and story teller as Scorscese.”
If only Marty could direct Pirahna 2 and produce Dark Angel….
mark: “He’s the hardest working filmmaker out there, bar none.”
Yeah, he spent 10 years in a sub, and all we got was a stupid action figure movie.
PCP: “but to be honest, James Cameron is arguably more important, as important, or almost as important a film maker and story teller as Scorscese.”
If only Marty could direct Pirahna 2 and produce Dark Angel….
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“Yeah, he spent 10 years in a sub, and all we got was a stupid action figure movie.”
You’ve spent ten years posting nonsense on internet message boards. Where’s that gotten you?
“If only Marty could direct Pirahna 2 and produce Dark Angel….”
If only you could get a job. Preferably one without internet access.
“Yeah, he spent 10 years in a sub, and all we got was a stupid action figure movie.”
You’ve spent ten years posting nonsense on internet message boards. Where’s that gotten you?
“If only Marty could direct Pirahna 2 and produce Dark Angel….”
If only you could get a job. Preferably one without internet access.
Howlingman: “You’ve spent ten years posting nonsense on internet message boards. Where’s that gotten you?”
A mention on an official HE update, apparently.
“If only you could get a job.”
Yep.
Howlingman: “You’ve spent ten years posting nonsense on internet message boards. Where’s that gotten you?”
A mention on an official HE update, apparently.
“If only you could get a job.”
Yep.
The mention is not exactly flattering, you narcissistic dolt. He’s talking about how even you, the worst amateur box office prognosticator in the history of idiots who think they know what they’re talking about, can participate on this little gambling website.
Here’s a tip, DipZhit: just because the dealer at a casino asks you to sit down at his table, it doesn’t mean he thinks you’re a good player.
The mention is not exactly flattering, you narcissistic dolt. He’s talking about how even you, the worst amateur box office prognosticator in the history of idiots who think they know what they’re talking about, can participate on this little gambling website.
Here’s a tip, DipZhit: just because the dealer at a casino asks you to sit down at his table, it doesn’t mean he thinks you’re a good player.
Oh, and Cameraon’s “king of the world” schtick made him look like a jerk because 3,000 people died on that fucking boat. Maybe not the classiest way to celebrate, spiking the football in the proverbial end zone of those people’s lives.
Oh, and Cameraon’s “king of the world” schtick made him look like a jerk because 3,000 people died on that fucking boat. Maybe not the classiest way to celebrate, spiking the football in the proverbial end zone of those people’s lives.
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