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“This week President Obama is hosting a bipartisan gab-fest at the White House to try to tease out some Republican votes for health care,” Salon‘s Robert Reich wrote this morning. “It’s a total waste of time. If Obama thinks he’s going to get a single Republican vote at this stage of the game, he’s fooling himself (or the American people).
“Many months ago, you may recall, the White House and Dem leaders in the Senate threatened to pass health care with 51 votes — using a process called ‘reconciliation’ that allows tax and spending bills to be enacted without filibuster — unless Republicans came on board. It’s time to pull the trigger.”
He’s just pulled a brilliant card; he’s going to force the Republicans to publicly side with the insurance companies’ rights to raise their rates arbitrarily with no oversight.
He’s just pulled a brilliant card; he’s going to force the Republicans to publicly side with the insurance companies’ rights to raise their rates arbitrarily with no oversight.
I’ve been with Obama the whole time in regards to Health Care and the GOP. Make your point over and over until the truth becomes undeniable. Don’t lose your cool. That’s what they want… to make the president look like a Socialist dictator.
But as of last week my mind has changed. Enough is enough. The Republicans don’t give a shit about the country. They bring NOTHING to the table but pettiness and fear mongering. And if the CPAC poll is any indication, the party is completely lost in space.
So give the order. Pull the trigger. Release the Kraken. Whatever.
I’ve been with Obama the whole time in regards to Health Care and the GOP. Make your point over and over until the truth becomes undeniable. Don’t lose your cool. That’s what they want… to make the president look like a Socialist dictator.
But as of last week my mind has changed. Enough is enough. The Republicans don’t give a shit about the country. They bring NOTHING to the table but pettiness and fear mongering. And if the CPAC poll is any indication, the party is completely lost in space.
So give the order. Pull the trigger. Release the Kraken. Whatever.
Hey, it is worth a try … cannot hurt by trying.
The success will be of course be zero though since, look at it this way, besides agreeing to go into Iraq when did the democrats agree with anything George Bush tried to pass. Zero.
This is called partisan politics, everyone! Nothing new here. Good for Bayh to just get out.
Hey, it is worth a try … cannot hurt by trying.
The success will be of course be zero though since, look at it this way, besides agreeing to go into Iraq when did the democrats agree with anything George Bush tried to pass. Zero.
This is called partisan politics, everyone! Nothing new here. Good for Bayh to just get out.
My faith was restored this past weekend when Ron Paul won straw poll at CPAC this weekend. Could the Reps be in more disarray? The fringe hate the moderates and the conservatives hate the TeaBaggers. They can have all the seats they want this fall but they will have no one with talent to give Barry a run in 2012. That bench is so weak it makes the Knicks bench look like all-stars. Now I know Barry came out of the wood work, but with his books and his appearances, he at least had a movement. The Reps movement is high-jacked by Palin one week and Cheney the next and whichever screaming TeaBagger shows up on Fox the following.
Gordn27 I think you are right. This rope-a-dope card Barry just pulled out might work. Now all he has to do is lead….that had really been his problem.
My faith was restored this past weekend when Ron Paul won straw poll at CPAC this weekend. Could the Reps be in more disarray? The fringe hate the moderates and the conservatives hate the TeaBaggers. They can have all the seats they want this fall but they will have no one with talent to give Barry a run in 2012. That bench is so weak it makes the Knicks bench look like all-stars. Now I know Barry came out of the wood work, but with his books and his appearances, he at least had a movement. The Reps movement is high-jacked by Palin one week and Cheney the next and whichever screaming TeaBagger shows up on Fox the following.
Gordn27 I think you are right. This rope-a-dope card Barry just pulled out might work. Now all he has to do is lead….that had really been his problem.
Hillary Clinton should have beaten Barak Obama, plain and simple. As a result, the rest of us must pay for our sins.
Hillary Clinton should have beaten Barak Obama, plain and simple. As a result, the rest of us must pay for our sins.
…besides agreeing to go into Iraq when did the democrats agree with anything George Bush tried to pass. Zero.
Hah! You act like the war in Iraq was a minor matter, not the very cornerstone of the Bush administration.. And the Dems went along with Bush on other things too, like the Patriot Act, telecom immunity, etc.
Anyway, our current president has managed to beef up one of the most unpopular parts of health care legislation—the mandate—while leaving out one of the most popular—a government-run option.
…besides agreeing to go into Iraq when did the democrats agree with anything George Bush tried to pass. Zero.
Hah! You act like the war in Iraq was a minor matter, not the very cornerstone of the Bush administration.. And the Dems went along with Bush on other things too, like the Patriot Act, telecom immunity, etc.
Anyway, our current president has managed to beef up one of the most unpopular parts of health care legislation—the mandate—while leaving out one of the most popular—a government-run option.
Hey Dangovich, that’s the problem, the Dem’s went along with Bush on all the wrong things.
Hopefully the republicans won’t make the same mistake and go along with the bad things that the Obama admin puts up.
Once again, Hillary should have beaten Barak. And as a result we all pay the price!
Hey Dangovich, that’s the problem, the Dem’s went along with Bush on all the wrong things.
Hopefully the republicans won’t make the same mistake and go along with the bad things that the Obama admin puts up.
Once again, Hillary should have beaten Barak. And as a result we all pay the price!
I just noticed a sad headline today that says so much: “Obama Unveils Health Care Plan With No Public Option.”Yet ,I believe the idea of forcing Americans into the arms of the insurance companies, seems to live on.
I just noticed a sad headline today that says so much: “Obama Unveils Health Care Plan With No Public Option.”Yet ,I believe the idea of forcing Americans into the arms of the insurance companies, seems to live on.
I just read some stuff that Jeff is referring to and it is scary. This Obama guy really wants to intrude on American’s privacy. It scares me in the way Bush’s Patriot Act did but EVEN MORE SO.
I read this great novel called Freedom(TM) by Daniel Suarez (part two to his book Daemon) and there is a chapter on how this loss of privacy really is making this country become a big brother type of country. Think cell phone, satellite linkage, and any info you want to know.
Obama and his health care is just more taxes, more databases, and more loss of freedom.
(I just re-read all the above and though it may sound “conspiracy”, it is a bit chilling).
I just read some stuff that Jeff is referring to and it is scary. This Obama guy really wants to intrude on American’s privacy. It scares me in the way Bush’s Patriot Act did but EVEN MORE SO.
I read this great novel called Freedom(TM) by Daniel Suarez (part two to his book Daemon) and there is a chapter on how this loss of privacy really is making this country become a big brother type of country. Think cell phone, satellite linkage, and any info you want to know.
Obama and his health care is just more taxes, more databases, and more loss of freedom.
(I just re-read all the above and though it may sound “conspiracy”, it is a bit chilling).
PCP: “when did the democrats agree with anything George Bush tried to pass.”
Um, they agreed on the Patriot Act, No Child Left Behind, bankrupting our nation with non-stop funding of both wars and the bail-out, etc. That’s why Massachusetts is the only reason they’re now bringing up reconciliation, because, as Nader noted, there’s no difference between the parties.
“Hillary Clinton should have beaten Barak Obama, plain and simple.”
Why? Because you wanted a NAFTA 2 and World War III that badly?
PCP: “when did the democrats agree with anything George Bush tried to pass.”
Um, they agreed on the Patriot Act, No Child Left Behind, bankrupting our nation with non-stop funding of both wars and the bail-out, etc. That’s why Massachusetts is the only reason they’re now bringing up reconciliation, because, as Nader noted, there’s no difference between the parties.
“Hillary Clinton should have beaten Barak Obama, plain and simple.”
Why? Because you wanted a NAFTA 2 and World War III that badly?
The summit this week is just political theater. After it happens, Obama and Reid can credibly say that (a) Republican ideas are in the bill (as it does); (b) Republicans don’t have a proposal and aren’t interested in participating (as they’re not); and (c) therefore we using reconciliation to have an up-or-down vote on a bill that has already passed with a majority in the House and a super majority in the Senate.
The summit this week is just political theater. After it happens, Obama and Reid can credibly say that (a) Republican ideas are in the bill (as it does); (b) Republicans don’t have a proposal and aren’t interested in participating (as they’re not); and (c) therefore we using reconciliation to have an up-or-down vote on a bill that has already passed with a majority in the House and a super majority in the Senate.
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it’s hard to take you seriously if you can’t even spell the president’s name- it’s BARACK. now back under the rock you go.
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it’s hard to take you seriously if you can’t even spell the president’s name- it’s BARACK. now back under the rock you go.
Here’s what Obama should do Thursday: Tell the repubs ‘We’re going to get a health care bill. If you want to help us, fine. If not, get out of the way.” If they want to filibuster, let them. Then, use reconciliation. Obama need to be like LBJ, who kicked some ass when he had to.
Here’s what Obama should do Thursday: Tell the repubs ‘We’re going to get a health care bill. If you want to help us, fine. If not, get out of the way.” If they want to filibuster, let them. Then, use reconciliation. Obama need to be like LBJ, who kicked some ass when he had to.
What is the big deal about having a mandate? It is NOT socialism. It is common sense. It is one of the best ways for insurance companies to offer reasonable insurance rates to everybody. There is no way they can keep their rates down and cover their costs if they are only insuring the sick and elderly. They need everybody–including the young and healthy–to be part of the big pool. I can understand why the young and the healthy are against health care reform because they used to not being forced to buy health insurance and/or paying much for it. But let me say this. There will be a day when they are old and sick. What are they going to do when they are denied coverage or can’t afford to pay for it? That’s when they will regret they didn’t support healthcare reform because they lacked foresight.
What is the big deal about having a mandate? It is NOT socialism. It is common sense. It is one of the best ways for insurance companies to offer reasonable insurance rates to everybody. There is no way they can keep their rates down and cover their costs if they are only insuring the sick and elderly. They need everybody–including the young and healthy–to be part of the big pool. I can understand why the young and the healthy are against health care reform because they used to not being forced to buy health insurance and/or paying much for it. But let me say this. There will be a day when they are old and sick. What are they going to do when they are denied coverage or can’t afford to pay for it? That’s when they will regret they didn’t support healthcare reform because they lacked foresight.
One more thing–let’s face it. The Republicans are intentionally being contentious and difficult to work with because they want the voters to see how the Democrats couldn’t get any bills passed. It’s all a political ploy so the Republicans can gain seats this fall. The fact of the matter is, a lot of the issues that are in the health reform bill were the same things that McCain proposed during his campaign. And the Republicans should not talk about reconciliation because they used it a lot more than the Democrats when they were in the majority–especially during the Reagan and Bush administrations.
One more thing–let’s face it. The Republicans are intentionally being contentious and difficult to work with because they want the voters to see how the Democrats couldn’t get any bills passed. It’s all a political ploy so the Republicans can gain seats this fall. The fact of the matter is, a lot of the issues that are in the health reform bill were the same things that McCain proposed during his campaign. And the Republicans should not talk about reconciliation because they used it a lot more than the Democrats when they were in the majority–especially during the Reagan and Bush administrations.
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