Sassy Eyelash-Batter
The question of whether or not Megan Fox is over comes down to whether Hollywood honchos, who’ve already written her off as an audience-luring star after the weak opening of Jennifer’s Body, have also written her off as an actress. Can Fox do anything except read sassy pouty dialogue like a porn star? That’s the question posed by this trailer for Jonah Hex, and perhaps by the film itself.
If I were Fox I’d be scared shitless right now. The excessive weight-loss Transformers 3 dismissal/resignation thing hurt her, I think, and she knows it’s make-or-break time. Her fate is teeter-tottering on a fencepost as we speak. If I were Fox I would make calls and move mountains to somehow prove that I do have untapped depth, and that I can emote with a semblance of soul and sincerity…before it’s too late. If I in fact have this, I mean.
Original Sin, Life or Something Like It, then Beyond Borders. All flops on par or worse than Jennifer’s Body. Things aren’t as make or break for Fox as you imply…yet.
was jennifer’s body actually any good?
@Mark
Angelina Jolie already had an Oscar from Girl Interrupted and had opened a blockbuster hit in Lara Croft before those films so the comparison isn’t apt. She had proven herself both in terms of talent and as a box office draw. Fox isn’t even close.
@ DoctorHu
Nope.
Women, for whatever reason, quite like Angelina Jolie even though she’s the sexbomb threat that normally turns them off. But women hate Megan Fox. Women ultimately decide who becomes a big female star and who doesn’t, so I don’t think Fox will do well.
DoctorHu, I’ll go to bat for Jennifer’s Body. It’s not a great movie by any means, but I really enjoyed it. It’s stylish, funny, a little scattered in terms of story, but I see a lot of horror movies and high school comedies, and this one is a cut above. People just had it out for the movie because it was Diablo Cody’s turn to get hit with the backlash machine (and if Fox gets smacked on the way, all the better).
But Fox is quite good in it. I mean, yes, she’s basically playing a riff on her persona, such that it doesn’t matter when she talks with a kind of baby-voiced deadness… but she does have fun with the more ridiculous Cody lines, and makes them funnier, I think, than they’d be spoken by a “better” actress.
In fact, let me go ahead and self-promote and say that I wrote a fairly positive assessment of the DVD here: http://bit.ly/ag96Q3
So in a weird way, I root for Fox now, because honestly, I enjoyed Jennifer’s Body way more than any movie from Shia or Michael Bay. I didn’t realize the Trans3 thing was a weight-loss issue. That’s too bad; the idea that Fox would think she needs to lose weight is pretty grotesque.
Eloi Wrath is right on the money.. Jennifer’s Body needed
the horror-loving female demographic to put it over…and they loathe Fox beyond all description….
…….but as the still-breathing comics say at the Friar’s Roasts…”in this wonderful, wacky show business of ours”….anything is possible in anyone’s career. A few years from now, you could see Fox pop up in some 20 year old’s parent-credit-card-financed, Fox-Searchlight pickup Sundance smash….and we’ll be reading ‘Comeback Of The Decade’ stories all year long.
Re JENNIFER’S BODY–
Essentially a not-bad Diablo Cody script botched by Karyn Kusama’s direction. And 20th Century Fox’s let’s-ignore-Amanda Seyfried-in-the-poster-art campaign didn’t help.
The Jolie comparison is apt. Pre-Mrs. Smith, after the Croft 2, Sky Captain, and Alexander bombs, she was more damaged goods than Fox. In fact, her performances in Beyond Borders and Alexander were absolute punchlines. No one came away from Transformers 2, a terrible flick, and said, “jeez, Megan Fox is awful.
It’s hard for any actress to equal box office. Jolie still struggles domestically. Her foreign grosses of late have shown that she’s building something, but that took time. Fox looks good on a magazine cover, and can get press, so producers will continue to give her at bats.
Terry, that’s interesting because I feel like most negative reactions to the movie blamed Cody first, and Kusama secondarily or not at all. But I actually really liked what she did with the material. I wish she had pushed it a little further stylistically — I love the saturated color and shadows of the prom-night scenes — but I like that she treated the material semi-seriously, not going all the way with camp (of course, it’s not particularly scary — but neither is the Nightmare on Elm Street remake or any number of hit horror movies with a lot less style or wit than Jennifer’s Body).
Agree on Seyfried, though. She should’ve been the focus of the ads, because all evidence seems to indicate that she has the exact young-lady following that Eloi Wrath correctly points out Fox lacks. It’s kinda weird that she could get a movie that’s genteel to the point of dullness, Letters to Juliet, to around $40 million, but wasn’t even used to open a teen-friendly horror movie (though I guess it was R-rated, huh).
Wow, did someone just compare Fox to Jolie? And, not only that, compare Fox favorably??
That was a shark-jumping post if I ever saw one.
Once you have an Oscar — even if it’s supporting — it automatically adds a ten-year buffer to your career. Case in point: Cuba Gooding Jr.
Alexander‘s a mess, but Jolie was still awesome in it. Fox has never even come close to being that good. Not even close.
I think it’s possible that a PG-13 would have gotten JB a couple more bucks. It was sort stuck in that weird middle-ground for the genre where most of the people old enough to see it probably weren’t all that interested in rushing out to see a horror movie that wasn’t perceived as “hardcore,” and most of the early-teens/tweens that probably wanted to see it might have had trouble getting in (although working at a movie theater in the late ’90s throughout the whole Scream series taught me that if someone really wants to get in, they’ll get in…one way or another).
It just didn’t have a very reliable target audience to build word-of-mouth, I don’t think. And that’s assuming it’s any good to begin with (I still haven’t gotten around to seeing it myself).
Sorry Mark, but no.
Jolie had more than an Oscar at that point. She also had three Golden Globes and multiple Emmy nominations.
You can’t say with a straight face that Megan Fox could, in her wildest dreams (or yours), pull of a Gia, George Wallace or Changeling performance.
Jolie always had critical momentum early in her career and Fox has none save the support of horny teenaged boys.
There is absolutely no comparison.
Poor Mira Sorvino. She was unaware of the 10-year buffer rule.
Jolie was not awesome in Alexander. Nor in “I Want MY Son!!!” Nor in any of the 7 straight monster flops in a row with which she followed Tombraider.
I have no idea if Fox could pull off Gia. I don’t think anyone would think Theron could pull off Monster until she did.
I do think that Fox has a similar magnetism on screen, which may repel some, that is more rare than most realize. (The untapped talent underneath in still unknown.) Producers, however, do realize the attraction, and I doubt she’ll have trouble finding work in the near future.
I do think Jolie had quite a bit more cred than Fox at this point in her career, because she came on with artier fare than Fox did — even without the Oscar, Girl Interrupted and Gia are serious movies where she gets to play troubled, and her early eye-candy roles are in movies like Hackers; a bit more niche and not so Maximized as Fox. Also, I think if you do a bunch of dramas, even if they’re Beyond Borders or whatever, execs will cut you some slack because Julia Roberts probably couldn’t have gotten Beyond Borders above the $50 million mark, and that’s being generous.
Fox, on the othe rhand, has mostly done genre-y movies so far, nothing being sold largely on her having really broken out (assuming Jonah Hex doesn’t do well); Jolie was front and center for a bunch of genre hits.
But I’m not particularly impressed with Jolie as an actor, and agree that, yeah, at a certain point in her career she was not much better off than Fox is now. She’s bigger now, but when was her last truly memorable performance? I mean, I enjoy her pulpy action stuff. I’m looking forward to Salt. But I don’t really take her seriously as someone with a lot of gravitas. I was shocked she got an Oscar nomination out of that shameless son-screaming in Changeling. The most interesting parts of that movie had almost nothing to do with her.
Awesome in Taking Lives, eyepatch-awesome in Sky Captain, and quietly-awesome in The Good Shepherd (forgot about that one, didn’t ya?).
You obviously don’t have much of a taste for her (unlike basically any other hetero I’ve ever encountered in my life) if you don’t like these performances. You probably didn’t like her in Wanted, either. She should have been nominated for an Oscar (yeah, I said it). She was arguably more magnetic than Depp in PotC in that, and I love me some JD.
Also, Mr. and Mrs. Smith made a pretty penny, as much as everyone wants to remember differently. So did a couple of those animated flicks she voiced.
The one thing I’ll agree with you on is Sorvino. Apparently, Tarantino is only capable of reviving the careers of those who ever had a smidgen of talent to start with.
I keep hearing about street cred and emmys. Who gives a shit? You’re an agent. You represent Megan Fox, Maggie Gylenhall, and Rachel Weisz. Which one has the most star potential or the highest salary ceiling over the next 5 years? It’s Fox. She could still lead a franchise and become an $8M actress. The others have no shot, despite their street cred. It’s a game of chess, and she still has moves that she could make.
Back to Jolie. I liked her in two flicks. A Mighty Heart and Wanted. Though she was a little skinny in the latter, and appears the same in Salt. Pushes the suspension of disbelief when she’s shooting a 25lb gun.
“Women, for whatever reason, quite like Angelina Jolie even though she’s the sexbomb threat that normally turns them off.”
Eloi, you are 100% correct. This is a phenomenon I just cannot figure out. Conversely, these women absolutely loathe Jennifer Aniston even though she is almost always the scorned woman.
Weight-loss issue? Was the studio upset that she had lost some weight? This town is seriously nuts.
Hang on, hang on, we’re comparing Jolie post Oscar with Fox at the beginning of her career? Lest we forget Hackers, Foxfire, or Cyborg 2? Hell, even GIa isn’t very good, and if Jolie wasn’t naked in it the whole time nobody would EVER be bringing it up.
Megan Fox has been in like 5 movies. And they’re all mostly of the “Hackers” level. Jennifer’s Body is reasonably entertaining, but Fox (The studio) held onto it for too long and put absolutely no advertising into the thing beyond an uber generic horror trailer. Fox (the woman) is pretty damn good in it. It’s not a great movie by any means, but it certainly didn’t deserve the vitriol it received. (Especially in a world where Transformers 2 exists and takes in $400 million)
Fox does, however, make horrible choices picking projects. I’ve heard awful things about this Jonah Hex, not a shock but WB should’ve let the Crank guys make the movie. At least it would be entertaining garbage.
Aside from any subjective assessment of their acting abilities, I see two, FACTUAL differences between Jolie and Fox that are surely significant to some degree.
Angelina Jolie could be counted on to get naked, whereas Megan Fox has remained a tease.
Angelina Jolie’s boyfriends: Billy Bob Thornton and Brad Pitt. Megan Fox’s boyfriends? Brian Austin Green.
Bottom line: Jolie had men wanting her, and women wanting to be her. Fox just has men wanting her, but not even all that much. Plus, Jolie clearly has something going on behind those eyes– *crazy* confidence. Fox doesn’t seem to have that– she has the “Diablo Cody” confidence, which is solely dependent on who is writing your lines and how attractive you are.
Angelina Jolie could have her face burned off in a fire, and she’d still find a way to be sexy enough to kick your ass. Megan Fox could mess up her makeup and I think most men would move on.
BTW, I’m not sure a lot of women like Jolie… depends on the woman. The wallflowers of the world, the SATC crowd, still all weep for poor ol’ Jennifer losing her “soulmate” to a sexpot. That tabloid-reading crowd will probably always look at her and think “man-stealing whore.”
Dr. Bob– I haven’t met many women who loathe Jennifer Anniston. But if I had to choose a woman, comparable to Fox, that most women DO loathe for no reason: Jennifer Love Hewitt. ESPN’s Bill Simmons captured that effect to good measure year’s ago: JLH inspires irrational, inexplicable hatred at her very mention, let alone sight of her, in far too many women.
That’s probably diminished a bit by now, if only because JLH’s stock has gone down. I guess that’s the key: when the hot young things are first on the scene, their boyfriends ogling them like Lex ogles a schoolyard, the girlfriends get mad jealous and hate on them. They have to age out a bit, get replaced by the next hot young thing, end up on a CBS show or something in order to gain feminine sisterhood good will.
Anyway… Jolie, Fox, Anniston, JLH… NO WOMAN has the love and adoration of women like Sandra Bullock in 2010. Bullock could eat her adopted baby and the average American housefrau would still love her.
“Lest we forget Hackers, Foxfire, or Cyborg 2?”
Yeah, and what about them? Listen, we’re not talking about the quality of the actual movies here (and I’m not sure why you are), but Hackers is still better than anything Fox has ever been in (haven’t seen JB, so I could stand corrected…maybe).
We’re talking about charisma, star power, and acting. Jolie had shown glimpses of all three of these qualities in even her earliest work. Has Fox? I don’t know. It can be argued that she really hasn’t had a chance to yet, but she really needs to settle down and make some sort of small, character-driven independent film to really convince me. The fact that she hasn’t done this yet — at least to my knowledge — really makes me suspect that either she or her agent (or both) believe that she really doesn’t have much to offer in carving out a real flesh-and-blood character.
As for Jonah Hex, I think I’d rather take a chance on a Pixar animator than “the Crank guys.” Are you for real???
Why the hell are people comparing Fox with Angelina Jolie? Jolie got an Emmy in 1997 for George Wallace, a Golden Globe in 1998 for Gia and a fucking Oscar in 1999 for Girl Interrupted. She was delivering critical acclaim work year after year.
Oh and when she won her Oscar she was 23 years old, the SAME AGE Megan Fox has today.
Jolie may had her box office bombs but she alredy was a critical acclaimed actress and had proved that she could act. Also, lets not forget, Jolie was the MAJOR star from Tomb Raider, Megan Fox iplays a hot supporting role.
I am sorry, but apart from tattos and sexy pics those two have NOTHING in common.
“Angelina Jolie could have her face burned off in a fire, and she’d still find a way to be sexy enough to kick your ass. Megan Fox could mess up her makeup and I think most men would move on.”
YES.
Thank you crazynine for injecting some crazylogic into this crazydiscussion.
CitizenKaned, how many animation directors have made a successful transition into live-action? Granted, Pixar is a cut above, but usually animation directors doing live-action tentpoles for the first time just wind up getting worked over by the studio, or seem so concerned with not screwing up that they deliver something utterly lacking any kind of energy or point of view that you can find in their animated work.
Whereas Crank and Crank 2 are both kind of awesome, crazy over-the-top B-movies with a lot of visual panache. So maybe I wouldn’t recommend them over Brad Bird (although for a trashy pulp western, maybe I would, since Bird could be doing better things with his time), but yeah, I’d rather see Jonah Hex from the guys who did Crank than the guy who directed Horton Hears a Who.
Before I was saying that I think I enjoyed Jennifer’s Body more than anything from Shia or Michael Bay… I might be able to extend that to Jolie. The movies Jolie has appeared in that I actually enjoyed: Tomb Raider (very dumb but kind of fun), Sky Captain, The Good Shepherd, Beowulf, and to a lesser extent, A Mighty Heart and Mr. & Mrs. Smith. Good Shepherd and Sky Captain, in very different ways, might be better movies than Jennifer’s Body, although I’m more likely to rewatch the latter — and Jolie is a supporting player in both. She’s basically never appeared in a movie that was better than decent. Neither has Fox, and of course Fox doesn’t appear capable of doing something like A Mighty Heart, but I dunno, I don’t have a lot of fierce Angelina Jolie loyalty. Like a lot of actors, it seems like she has kind of lame taste in movies. She seems to most enjoy playing ass-kickers and victims. Neither seem very nuanced to me.
Not that this makes Fox a better actress, just that the reverence for Jolie is maybe a bit much. Also, CitizenKaned, when you say Jolie was as good in Wanted (?!) as Depp was in Pirates, you come off like a craaaazy Jolie fanboy. Not only is Wanted an awful movie (and I’m fine with over-the-top B-movie action, as I think I made clear by my enthusiasm over Crank), Jolie isn’t particularly interesting in it, beyond the interest of whether her arms will break when she fires gigantic guns. I mean, she’s not actively bad in a movie that most definitely is, but Depp is wonderful in the Pirates movies, even when the movies don’t match his invention. Depp also seems to get himself into weird and interesting material, even if some of it doesn’t work. I am curious to see them paired in that Tourist movie, though.
Jolie has a life force to her.
Fox is dead behind her eyes.
As for Fox being dumped from Transformers….. WOW… ballsy move by Bay and Co. Where on EARTH are they going to find a young, vapid, sexy actress in Hollywood to replace her?
Very few of these big hollywood monsters can really act, if its Ashton Kutcher, Will Smith.. Will Smith was a fcking rapper/sitcom star before becoming one of the biggest stars on the planet.. Hollywood is full of no talent big name stars basically playing themselves in role after role.. Why are you holding Megan Fox to different standards? She was pitch perfect in “Jennifers Body”, and while the retirement home audience may not have liked it, I can say with good authority that its a well respected horror film among horror fans, and its also somewhat of a cult favorite among teens. Its a good movie. Better or as good than any teen horror of the past 5 years. Megan Fox won me over while being interviewed on Jimmy Kimmel awhile back where she proved to be a cool, intelligent, and way chill.. not to mention being gorgeous. She can’t act? psssh 90% of all the actors in Hollywood CANT ACT. Wtf are you babbling about?
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Jolie has a life force to her.
Fox is dead behind her eyes.
I don’t think she’s really dead behind the eyes.
I think it more has something to do with Jolie is seriously f-ed up (bad father issues and a little off to begin with) and fox doesn’t have any.
so normally we love sex pots (Marylin Monroe most famous) who are messed up emotionally and how much they need us emotionally for reasurrance,etc.
fox doesn’t seem crazy or messed up.
in fact, she’s pretty well put together.
not the smartest mind you, but pretty well adjusted for the most part.
shes’ in a stable long term relationship and already a mother.
so she’s boring.
and all of her sexuality?
it’s not “I gotta prove myself to you and everyone else I’m worth something and something you want”
It’s “I can be sexy and I want to work.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXbxHvWHahQ
super cool/funny/rock and roll/gorgeous woman. she’s more of a cool guy sex symbol, and I can see why nerds would have it out for her, flaunting her too hip for you personality.
I think we have a new LexG favourite: http://www.movieline.com/2010/05/winters-bone-attempts-unlikely-sex-sells-gambit.php
It didn’t hurt her at all. In fact, it’s the first smart thing she’s done in her career. Being with Bay and on those films is what made people hate her in the first place. Now she’s got self-respect, which makes all of the difference.
Raise your hand if you ever would side with the talentless hack Mike Bay on ANYTHING?
psssh 90% of all the actors in Hollywood CANT ACT. Wtf are you babbling about?
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after this I shouldnt take anything else you say serious, but lets start with the beggining of your post.
WHO IN NAME of God ever told you taht Asthon Kutcher is a Hollywood MONSTER? Are you high or something, the guy is a B-LIST at his best days. He hardly gets work now and only stars a film if the movie already got a big female draw. I cant name one single sucessfull film that he started alone and the dude was NEVER taken serious by Hollywood.
He may be a huge celebrity and have the biggest Twitter acount ever, but Hollywood monster he is NOT.
I remember there was a time when Hollywood was quite keen on Ashton Kutcher. He was touted for a few plum roles with big name directors. But he never seemed that interested. He made Punk’d and just coasted on his celebrity. I’m amazed he’s lasted as long as he has, and he’s not just another Chris Klein.
Eloi
“Women, for whatever reason, quite like Angelina Jolie even though she’s the sexbomb threat that normally turns them off.”
They want to sleep with her. No, really, that’s honestly seemed like the baseline reason for that phenomenon for me for the longest time.
Jolie is an infinitely better actress, when she needs to be, than Fox or most others in that league. Plus she’s more “interesting.” But the “women don’t hate her” thing really seems to have a consistent sexual component, probably because Jolie was pretty much “THE” notably-bisexual (in that it was openly-publicized, if not 100% acknowledged) hot actress at that odd moment around 1999-2001 or so that something like 80-90% of women in the civilized world decided they were “bi-curious.”
Jesse — I totally agree with your first paragraph. I was definitely being a bit snarky — and not entirely serious — about the Pixar animator guy, but that doesn’t mean I was entertained in the slightest by those awful Crank movies. My friend let me borrow the DVDs, and I could barely even get through the first one. What the hell kind of “B-movie” was that? I guess I’m just a little more old-school in my love of genre movies. I’d rather see charming-yet-clunky pictures like Deep Rising, Anaconda, or Lake Placid than something as robotically pedestrian as Crank or Gamer. Shit doesn’t have a personality, and neither does Statham, for that matter.
Love Depp, but his character in PotC just seemed a little too eccentric for eccentricity’s sake. I mean, obviously it was supremely successful for him because it gave him cross-over appeal. But he’s not doing anything in those movies that he hasn’t done better in smaller films for years. I think the difference is that Disney et. al finally gave him the audience and exposure. But no, he’s certainly not “wonderful” in relation to the countless other films he’s been far better in over the years.
I actually don’t really like Wanted all that much at all. I think it’s well-directed, and individual scenes play out masterfully, but it’s an awfully derivative picture — even for its genre. And the script seems dated — it seemingly takes a surprising amount of story beats from the “angry young man cinema” movement of the late 1990s, which came to a culmination with Fight Club.
But Jolie is a physical force in that movie. She is hardly even in it, and she hardly ever speaks when she is (her idea), but her mere presence still manages to command about every goddamn frame of that film (a good thing when your lead is that black-hole of charisma named McAvoy). That’s one of the true signs of a great performance, IMHO. I don’t know that it’s great acting, per se, but Downey and Depp have recently been rewarded for delivering just that kind of routine, so why not her?
Definitely looking forward to The Tourist. And between McQuarrie, Fellowes, Dalton, and Sewell it definitely reads like a short list of “WTF ever happened to THEM!”.
Okay, I’m officially pulling a Lex and retiring from this thread.
Ashton Kutcher and Megan Fox are da bomb, yo, but Jolie sucks (can’t act), and Jennifer’s Body is a “true horror classic,” while Hackers is dogshit?
Some of you people have about as discerning taste in film as my blind Aunt Chloe.
And if I read one more comment with a link to a Megan Fox interview where she seems “really cool” in person, I swear I will kick a taint. For all I know, she could be as charming and likable as Gilda Radner in person, but if she can’t translate that to her on-screen roles, what difference does it ultimately make?
I think one of Megan’s problems is that she and her team are or were determined to make her Jolie 2.0 The major problem with that is that the original is well…original and still a force to be reckoned with.
Jolie has always had a level of confidence and mystery about her that Megan just doesn’t have. A friend of mine summed it up best. He said Megan for all her false bravado desperately wants to be liked while Jolie doesn’t give a fuck. Jolie for all the hate she sometimes gets doesn’t flinch but with Megan people can smell her fear and they’re going in for the slaughter.
Anyone that doesn’t agree with me that 90% of all working actors in Hollywood can’t act… must be an idiot that doesn’t understand the nature of the business in the first place, which is why I bring up the dregs of hollywood, like Ashton Kutcher, Cameron Diaz, Ice Cube, Julia Roberts, Adam Sandler, Will Ferrell, Zac Effron, Jennifer Aniston, Scarlet Johanson, ect ect ect. Hollywood is nothing but superficial bimbos that could never act … How is Megan Fox different? Megan Fox is not a heavyweight, never has been. But is perfectly adequate and in line with the Hollywood status quo which has been in place since it began.
I thought Hollywood Elsewhere was the place to talk about that 10%… that do have talent.
CitizenKanedForPostingThoughts, you probably have ADD or something. Or probably read at a 7th grade level. Who in here said that Jennifers Body was a true horror classic? Who in here said that Ashton Kutcher was the bomb? It seems like you’re just a loud mouth spouting your personal opinions over and over, and not really reading anything or understanding anything anyone else is writing. Typical lonely nerd that has a lot of opinions… and zero patience for anyone elses.
>Adam Sandler
I’d have agreed with this till I saw Funny People.
As for Ferrell, he isn’t a thespian, but if you look at his SNL work he was a solid mimic (his James Lipton was hilarious) and certainly knew how to throw himself into a part without an ounce of self-consciousness.
I have no idea whether or not Megan Fox is going to turn out to be a good enough actress to afford herself a long, productive career. Same thing could have been said about Cameron Diaz after The Mask and before Something About Mary, as well as Charlize Theron after 2 Days in the Valley (has anyone seen that piece of shit recently? I did, and I had forgotten how incredible Theron looks in that movie) and before the Devil’s Advocate. But anyone who says that Megan Fox is not hot or that she’s generic and a dime a dozen needs to be smacked in the face with a white glove. I mean, come on. The camera loves her and as long as it does she will continue to get work.
Bottom line is Megan Fox is an unlikeable cuntrag. She thinks she is hot shit and acts like it, no humility whatsoever. I was at Comic Con when she was there for Jonah Hex and there was a line for people to get autographs or have their picture taken with her. Lots of little girls on the line to meet her. I swear, she did not look one fan in the eye, or even really smile the whole time. Yeah, maybe she was miserable having to be at Comic Con, but get the fuck over yourself! I stood to the side and watched just to see if I was right about what a self important cunt she was, and lo and behold I was right. Josh Brolin was smiling and greeting the fans and being an all around good guy, but Fox just sat there stone faced. Fuck her!
This whole thread is ridiculous, but especially the part about Megan Fox’s career.
The only way Megan Fox’s career dies in the next five years is if she continues to refuse to do nudity, and that seems unlikely unless she’s trying to destroy her career.
Anyone that doesn’t agree with me that 90% of all working actors in Hollywood can’t act… must be an idiot that doesn’t understand the nature of the business in the first place, which is why I bring up the dregs of hollywood
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Josh Brolin, Meryl Streep, Susan Saradon, Michael Douglas, Anne Hathaway, Charlize Theron, Sean Penn, Robert Downey Jr, Carey Mulligan, Jonnhy Depp, Maggie Gynlenhall, Marion Cotilard, Penelope Cruz, Javier Barden, Frank Langela, Michael Fasbenger, Emma Thompson, Donald Sutherland, James Mcavoy, Nicole Kidman, Ewan Mcagregor, Julianne More, Gary Oldman, Dustin Hoffman, Daniel Day-Lewis Jud Dench
This I got in juts a few minutes, maybe you just need to watch diferent films, because I can assure you every year I am amazed by films and performances.
45 comments into a Megan Fox thread and LexG still hasn’t chimed in? Dude must be napping..
From her interviews I get the impression Megan Fox honestly doesn’t care what happens to her career. She knows she’s no Meryl Streep, and she doesn’t seem to have any particular passion for the arts, or get any real joy from performing, so I think she’s happy to take the money and run. And I can respect that. I’m surprised more actors don’t do that, actually. The only one I can think of off hand is that tranny from The Crying Game who took a million bucks to appear in Stargate and then quit the business.
If I had a million dollars I think I’d have a hard time going back to work too.
I think the appropriate comparison for Megan Fox isn’t Angelina Jolie or Cameron Diaz, but rather Sharon Stone. She similarly hit it big as a pure sexpot of questionable talent. Had that same Fox-esque diarrhea of the mouth when it came to interviews. A similar porn-star vibe when it came to many of her line deliveries. And I remember women also hating Sharon Stone quite a bit. Wonder if Megan Fox will get to star in as many turds as Sharon Stone did.
Pre Basic Instinct, Stone is pretty much the perfect comparison. But then she proved she could own a film (if only once) and in a split second she became a genuine movie star (if only briefly). She said some similarly nutty stuff (and was rumored to be equally prone to not playing nicely with the other children), but she carried herself with absolute, almost supernatural confidence. Fox always seems to be one unprepared for question away from a panic attack. She’s more in league with Alba, IMO, and lacking talent and a decent eye for projects hasn’t stopped her working steadily for the last decade.
I bet Megan Fox could own a film if she spread her legs in it too.
She can’t close her mouth, which makes her look like a rubber f doll. She may go the way of Elizabeth Berkley.
Mark: “Original Sin, Life or Something Like It, then Beyond Borders.”
Those bombs were mostly prestige pictures, at least. But if I will say anything nice about Jolie, the difference between her and Fox is that Fox isn’t even trying to expand her range. She just plays herself.
“Poor Mira Sorvino. She was unaware of the 10-year buffer rule”
She probably lost credibility when she dated QT.
“Producers, however, do realize the attraction, and I doubt she’ll have trouble finding work in the near future.”
Probably the DTV/Skinemax kind.
“Which one has the most star potential or the highest salary ceiling over the next 5 years? It’s Fox.”
It’s true Weisz isn’t a star, but she’s got meatier roles than Fox. And anyone who thinks Gyllenhall isn’t a bigger star than Fox hasn’t been paying attention to TDK and Crazy Heart’s box offices. Yeah, Nanny McPhee 2′s probably gonna bomb, but at least it’s not going to bomb in a way which reflects badly on her, which can’t be said for JB.
Sams: Actually, Jolie is neither talented nor a draw, which is why she eventually hooked up with Pitt.
Anyway, the problem with Jennifer’s Body is it was trying to be yet another Heathers, when the orignal wasn’t even a big hit when it came out.
crazynine: “But if I had to choose a woman, comparable to Fox, that most women DO loathe for no reason: Jennifer Love Hewitt”
They have a perfectly good reason, two in fact: Party of Five, and I Know What You Did Last Summer.
nightheat: I’m guessing the reason people have it in for JB is because it looks like a pre-Frighteners PJ wannabe. And the other actors you listed at least have a sense of charisma and personality to them.
Phreaker: Of course it fucking hurt her! She’s yesterday’s news now. And it doesn’t matter if Bay sucks. She still owes his ass for the exposure.
You’re only allowed to grow your ego that big when you can sell a film on your name.
Milkman: I knew Diaz was going to be big when she was half the draw of The Mask and My Best Friend’s Wedding. Theron’s like an anti-Megan Fox where she’s mostly known for pedestrian arthouse shit, rather than pedestrian big-budget shit.
Bob: The irony of Berkeley is that she actually did do respectable work before Showgirls.
Jennifer’s Body couldn’t have been a hit no matter who was in it. It was a sexy horror film aimed at teenage boys, and they’re not the ones who make the decision about what movie to go see on Friday night. Girls are the audience that turns up for horror movies these days (as long as they’re about slashers or ghosts. Girls don’t like monster movies) and they are uncomfortable seeing sexy movies with their drooling hormone crazed dates. Rightfully so.
They used to say sex sells, but the opposite is true today, and has been since Basic Instinct finished it’s theatrical run almost twenty years ago. Has there been a hit movie that used sex an an enticement since?
Nightheat: “Anyone that doesn’t agree with me that 90% of all working actors in Hollywood can’t act… must be an idiot”
“Typical lonely nerd that has a lot of opinions… and zero patience for anyone elses.”
It seems you are the one with zero patience for anyone else’s opinions. Those who live in grammatically-incorrect houses should not cast stones.
“I’m guessing the reason people have it in for JB is because it looks like a pre-Frighteners PJ wannabe.”
If you think that ANYONE in the ENTIRE world (besides your dumb ass) skipped Jennifer’s Body because they thought to themselves “This looks like a pre-Frighteners PJ wannabe” then you’re even crazier than we thought. And even though you may claim that this is why you skipped it, you mostly skipped it because you skip MOST movies. You don’t even like film. You only begrudgingly see a few films a year, and even then, you have terrible taste and you pick shitty movies.
Jeffmc: “Has there been a hit movie that used sex an an enticement since? ”
The American Pie trilogy.
Wiggum: “If you think that ANYONE in the ENTIRE world (besides your dumb ass) skipped Jennifer’s Body because they thought to themselves “This looks like a pre-Frighteners PJ wannabe” then you’re even crazier than we thought”
They didn’t skip it because they thought it was a wannabe. But they skipped it because it was in the vein of those types of movies.
I knind fell bad for Fox because I really think she cares about her job, not that she has any taste whatsoever. But you never see her whoring the paparazzi or going crazy in parties.
The problem with her is that when Transformers exploded her team tried to sell her as this sex pot with outrages interviews and it didnt worked out, she isnt smart enough for that.
She was talking graphic details about her sex life, how she had a libido from a 14 years old boy, how she loved sex, didnt had manners, used the bathroom took a crap and didnt flush, all actors were a bit of prostitutes and they all sell themselves for money, UGH. It was insuferable.
And it didnt work at all, it was a disaster. People say girls didnt go see Jennifer Body, but guys also failed to go see it. So now her team is trying to sell a more warm image of her, we see her talking about family and wanting kids, how she loves her stepson and dreams about her own kids. We see pap pics of her with her boyfriend and his kid all teh time now. and the sad part is that I actually think this easy going girl that enjoys stay at home with her boyfriend is much closer to Megan than the crazy sex doll that they try to sell before, but maybe audiences wont buy this now.
linaf: “I really think she cares about her job,”
If she cared about her job, she wouldn’t trash her boss.
“I actually think this easy going girl that enjoys stay at home with her boyfriend is much closer to Megan than the crazy sex doll that they try to sell before,”
Bullshit. She showed her true colors when she turned down a child fan with a rose. Fox is just a stuck-up bitch who likes to slum for parts, and there’s no reason any guy who doesn’t have a hard-on for her should be defending her.