Actual Winklevii
Tyler and Cameron, the Harvard Connection guys, have spoken to the N.Y. Times. Same old tune, we want more money than what we got…waahhh. “It shouldn’t be that Mark Zuckerberg gets away with behaving that way,” “They didn’t fight fair,” “Mark stole the idea,” “What we agreed to is not what we got,” etc.
Tyler Winklevoss (l.), Cameron Winklevoss (r.).
I can’t say that I’m a fan of Zuckerberg but a part of me is really happy that he really stuck it to these two over-entitled Harvard douchebags.
Gabe is sooo fucking done with these guys.
As good as Armie Hammer is in the part, there’s a real Nixon administration vibe (equal parts Ehrlichman and Haldeman) to the actual Winklevii that Fincher seems to have ignored.
Or maybe he was just aiming for Hitler Youth and left it at that.
One of the smartest decisions the movie makes is to NOT make the Winklevii the villains of the piece – it’d be the easiest thing in the world to frame the whole thing as revenge-of-the-nerds again because Zuckerberg is a little dweeby guy and these guys are archetypal WASP/BMOC types.
Instead they play it pretty fair – ego versus ego, the Winklevii as “old model” entitled master-of-the-universe bigshots who don’t realize they’re whole “station” is being supplanted by Entitled Master-Of-The-Universe Bigshots Version 2.0; “I own the world because I was born better-connected than you” versus “I own the world because I was born smarter than you.”
The movie never mentions that they had code already for their site, and then hired Zuck to finish. That’s why the line about “did I use any of your code” comes off out of place without any context in the movie.
I would argue that the very existence of that line of dialogue itself gives plenty of context to the code in question.
I’m not sure I understand how they were entitled to more money than what they received; they got quite a bit for doing nothing.
But Zuckerberg did rip them off. That has to be supremely annoying.
God, can you be too greedy?
“settled four years later for $20 million in cash and $45 million in Facebook shares.”
$45 Million in facebook shares is probably worth a billion dollars. how much more greedy can they get?
From that picture, I feel that they’re much less sympathetic in real life than Sorkin/Hammer made them. They both have the John Kerry extra long face thing going on. But they do have good hair. Don’t let Lex see that.
It’s a tribute to just how outstanding Armie Hammer is (not to mention Fincher’s effects) in this that I went in not knowing that he was playing two roles, i.e. I actually thought they HAD cast twins in the part.
I sat there watching the film thinking, “Damn, they’re both so good, it’s going to suck for the rest of their careers trying to get roles that don’t cast them as the twins.”
And when you’re not looking for the seams in Fincher’s movie, you don’t find them, either.
Imagine my pleasant surprise when I checked IMDB at home and discovered they were both played by Hammer. For once, I was overjoyed at my pre-movie ignorance about a role.
I’m on no TSN bandwagon, but I’d totally be happy with a best supporting nod for Hammer.
How is this not a clear violation of some gag that I’m sure was a part of their settlement?
“I would argue that the very existence of that line of dialogue itself gives plenty of context to the code in question.”
Not really; it’s not like they had it after they met Zuckerberg, it was before. So I don’t see what the point is in removing it, except for story convenience. Also you would think making that point more known, would actually present a better defense for Mark, and the audience’s view of his case.
Cinefan: I can’t say that I’m a fan of Zuckerberg but a part of me is really happy that he really stuck it to these two over-entitled Harvard douchebags.
Couldn’t agree more. What a bunch of assholes.
That picture makes it look like they’re in wheelchairs.
These guys are so pathetic. I hope they lose. Facebook had nothing to do with them. It happens all the time in the tech industry, “someone getting there first”, Zuckerberg leading them on so he could get his thing going before them might have been unethical, but it certainly doesn’t grant these clowns to claim their site was stolen. I would have never given them a dime.
So their case is that the Microsoft evaluation of Facebook, where they paid $240M, is worthless when compared to just some guy who was looking at current DTI ratios? Value is what someone will pay for it. You can’t look at a painting and say, well there’s about $60 worth of paint, $100 for the canvas, plus about 30 man hours.
i don’t see a case, nor how they can get out of the deal they signed. I’d love to hear from their former lawyers.
i also think the forum needs to temper the hate for these guys; there’s a little more nuance going on than saying take the money and shutup. Were you all rooting against Kinear in Flash of Genuis?
Yeah, Mark, I get all that, but these guys sound like a pair of royal fucking douchebags.
Like I wonder about every single fringe LA screenwriter who claims he was underpaid for his barely-used story treatment for a movie that was totally rewritten and went on to be a hit: If you’re such a fucking genius, why don’t you just write another one?
I’m also a little uncomfortable at the concept by which if, say Established Movie Critic With Initials DP or JW said, “Hey, Lex, you should write a column,” and I said, “Eh, nah, too busy, I’ll pass,” then a year later I thought, “Eh, not so busy now, I’ll start my own blog” and it blew up and I became worth Nikki Finke levels of money, somehow I’d owe those guys a share of my money? Fuck that.
Zuckerberg never did a fucking thing for those guys’s bullshit shit, and they walked off with like 60 mil?
To my mind that is FOUND MONEY for literally DOING NOTHING.
Zuckerberg did actually work on their site.
Zuckerberg never did a fucking thing for those guys’s bullshit shit, and they walked off with like 60 mil?
To my mind that is FOUND MONEY for literally DOING NOTHING
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