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No one cares about Henry Cavill being handed the big role in Zack Snyder‘s Superman: Man of Steel — nobody. The film will sell tickets when it opens and the Comic-Con fools will do their usual-usual and not a bird will stir in the trees. I agree with Rope of Silicon‘s Brad Brevet that Snyder’s statement (“I am honored to be a part of [Superman's] return…I also join Warner Bros., Legendary and the producers in saying how excited we are” about this) indicates that hiring Cavill wasn’t entirely his decision.
You don’t care about anybody who cares about this news. That’s what you really mean to say. We’ll just file it away with all your other unusual peccadilloes.
Cavill is a pretty good choice, especially if this is indeed a new franchise to shoulder. Hamm was a dream, and way too old.
Condolences to Brandon Routh fans.
Wait, let me rephrase that: condolences to Brandon Routh.
Haha, I love how Wells does these “Oh God, I don’t give a shit about this boring superhero news” threads, knowing full well that it’ll have racked up 100+ comments in record time, while some thread about an Ishtar Blu-Ray struggles to get past 15.
Cavill seems a decent choice. He’s been on the verge of stardom for years, and has been second choice in casting pretty much every major franchise of the last decade. So it’s nice for him that he’s finally landed one.
DiscoNap said it best in the other thread: great news for James Bond, since this essentially takes Cavill out of the running and puts Fassbender in pole position.
So this is basically a low-budget alternative Matthew McConaughey for studios who can’t afford the real McConaughey?
Sadly, I actually do think this is one comic book thread that is going to struggle to reach even 15 posts.
Superman needs a makeover, and bad. Yeah, I know people like Smallville and Dean Cain and Teri Hatcher had a nice series run in the ’90s (the exact name of which — I shit you not — somehow escapes my mind right now, and I can’t be fucking bothered to look it up) but how long has it been since the last legitimately good Superman flick? 30 fucking years???
Regarding Bond (because frankly as a tentpole it’s a lot more interesting to me right now than the Man of Steel): it appears that with this news, and with Hardy recently cast as the villain in the new Batman, two pretty big names now kinda seem out of the running for 007. By all accounts, that probably makes Fassbender the odds-on-favorite right now, does it not? Who else is even thought to be in the running? Matthew Goode, I would assume, although…has he even done anything since Watchmen?
I’m sure there are a bunch of other names, but I haven’t really been keeping very good tabs on it. The last time I checked Gerard Butler was a fan favorite, so you just know it’s been awhile…
he did Leap year
And why are we talking like Craig is dead? He’s the best to me, and I hope he has at least a 4-5 movie run.
Rashad: I’m hoping Craig will continue for a while longer, but with the sheer number of franchises he’s got stacked up, I can only see him doing two more Bonds. That’ll be four in total – same as Brosnan. After that, Fassbender will be the perfect age.
Kaned: I didn’t think about Hardy for Bond, actually. Interesting idea.
Fassbender is Magneto in the new X-Men, and presumably is signed for sequels to that. He’s also being courted for all kinds of other big stuff like Ridley’s non-Alien prequel, so I suspect he’ll probably be too big for Bond when the times comes.
My guess is the next Bond being someone who isn’t even on the radar right now, just like Craig wasn’t prior to Brosnan stepping down. That Dominic Cooper dude who’s appearing in the Lee Tamahori Iraqi Scarface thing might be an up and comer to keep an eye on.
Speaking of which, Javier Bardem up for the Bond 23 villain role? YEP fucking YEP.
plus he’s *BRITISH* you know there have to be some Nazi-appeasing skeletons lurking in that closet. take him down, Wells! the world must know the truth
Kinda worried that Fassbender’s name keeps coming up with all these crappy films ot be made. I don’t fault the guy for doing Magneto. He deserves a payday or two. But I really feel he is one of the 4,5 best actors working today, simply based on his fucking killer work in HUNGER (Jeff’s rejection of this film is one of the great turn offs from this site), which remains one of the 4,5 best performances I’ve seen in the last 10 years or so. He doesn’t strike me as James Bond and I think they should keep Craig. He’s a good fit, although I have yet to see that QOS pic. Only saw his first one which I rather liked.
Oh c’mon, Jeff… you don’t dig the cape n’ cowl set, fine, but it’s not like the guy just got tapped for “Ant Man” or some other C-list fanboys-only gig.
This is SUPERMAN. The most recognizable non-rodent fictional character on the planet, a role that has simultaneously made and then destroyed the careers (to say nothing of the LIVES) of the majority of actors who’ve taken it. This is at least as big, if not bigger, than the semi-annual Bond recasting. Don’t kid yourself – Cavill was close to nobody this morning, and now he’s one of the most searched people on google garaunteed.
You have to be either disingenuous or just plain fucking stupid to think that this casting is going to go quietly into that good night. A Brit as the most iconic American character on the planet…???
Which makes me wonder if it’s a stunt. Everyone shrugged when the last one was coming out, there was no sense of excitement in the general population. Would not be surprised at all if this is simply a ploy to get the right wing blogosphere to talk up the film at this early point and plant the seed about it coming next year.
Hunger is nothing but an exercise in pissing an audience off
Having somehow not seen it, I’m inclined to believe that Michael Fassbender in HUNGER *is* the single greatest performance ever put to celluloid.
If only because of the sheer volume of internet ink I’ve read about this dude. Message board and blog comments (like the HE usual suspects) who ABSOLUTELY HATE EVERYTHING EVER and view every new actor with utter derision and suspicion have a John Holmes-sized boner for Michael Fassbender. There HAS to be something in Hunger that’s the explanation, because of the three things I’ve seen him in, he was blander than Sam Worthington:
JONAH HEX, where I thought he was Kim Coates.
CENTURION, where he got blown off the screen by Dominic West.
INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS, where I thought everyone meant the German sniper hero who hit on Melanie Laurent and is in 90% of the movie. Then I found out everyone meant that ramrod-looking dude in the Michael Meyers scene who I couldn’t tell which guy he was in the bar setpiece.
More on topic: I want to know if Zack Snyder is going to shoot SUPERMAN in his usual lint-filter charcoal-and-copper exhaust fume sheen.
It’s being shot in Vancouver, isn’t it? Like that isn’t low-rent enough…
D.Z., I realize you more than likely have a syndrome where you have a hard time with faces, but that is one of your more bizarre comparisons.
Also Lex, respectfully, watch the bar scene again because he’s electrifying and walks away with the movie. “I hope you don’t mind if I go out speaking the King’s.”
Yeah, Lex, I have to ask if you were paying attention at all in the bar scene if you couldn’t pick out Fassbender. He stole the entire movie, in my view, and it was that performance that immediately made me think of him as a future Bond.
Deathtongue: Americans seem to have got over Batman and Spider-Man being played by Brits, so I don’t think Superman will bother them too much. Besides, as many have pointed out:
a) Sherlock Holmes is played by an American
b) Superman is the ultimate immigrant outsider story, so it’s actually more accurate to the character’s weird backstory if the actor isn’t American
Who cares though, really. Chris Pine aside, there really hasn’t been many American blockbuster stars produced in recent years. It’s all fanny-fart douches like Michael Angarano and Paul Dano. All the major studios need to stop casting wet farts and try to breed a new generation of American action heroes. I can see Armie Hammer being the only guy big enough to actually fight someone on screen for the next two decades. He could certainly smack the shit out of gaping-jawed simpleton Josh “Stage-School” Hutcherson.
Fassbender has a STACHE when he’s talking to Mike Myers and Rod Taylor, then in the subsquent bar scene nobody has a mustache, and I swear to God Michael Fassbender has the least distinctive facial appearance of all time, because I STILL couldn’t pick the guy out of a police lineup.
IB is Waltz’s movie. Then it’s Laurent’s. Fassbender doesn’t make much of an impression in it. And yes I realize I’m sounding like DeeZee in even arguing this way.
And really, I’m not anti- the guy or anything, I jiust can’t tell who he is from movie to movie, or even scene to scene.
And THE ELOI is hardly a reliable meter for these things, but it IS weird to me how 99.9999% of even regular moviegoers have probably never heard the name Michael Fassbender, but 99.9999% of movie blog commenters think he’s the king-dick future franchise megastar salvation of cinema itself.
Fassbender was also memorable in Fish Tank. Watch that, skip Hunger
As long as Supes says he fights for “truth, justice and the American Way” instead of that backhanded “all that stuff” by Langella in Returns, then I’m cool
Doesn’t it seem weird that they’re casting a guy that they specifically chose Brandon Routh over last time out? Are they just going down a list?
Different team.
I liked Routh, but I’m also sure Singer wanted him because he looked like Reeves. Superman Returns was basically a continuation of Donner.
“Americans seem to have got over Batman and Spider-Man being played by Brits”
Are we already declaring Andrew Garfield a success? Seems a bit premature to me. We might as well cite this Superman movie as proof that Superman can be played by a Brit and audiences will get over it.
“And really, I’m not anti- the guy or anything, I just can’t tell who he is from movie to movie, or even scene to scene.”
Was having this EXACT conversation with someone on Saturday.
Fassbender was incredible in Basterds. What with this and Lex’s admission that he hasn’t watched The Insider since 2000 i’m really starting to worry about the guy.
Given that the last three Superman films were crimes against cinema surely Snyder can come up with something halfway decent. Right?
Cavill is outstanding in The Tudors. Interesting that someone who can actually act has been cast as Superman.
I first saw Fassbender in Sherlock Holmes and the Case of the Silk Stocking, about a serial killer with a foot fetish, perhaps why QT cast him in IBast.
Eh, whatever. Since Nolan is involved, they’ll probably make the same mistake that Singer did, try to make Superman “dark” and “edgy.” I expect similar results.
As to this guy, it’s hard to tell, but I hope his eyes are blue. If not, I hope they get better contacts than those things they had Routh wear. Picky, I know, but that was really distracting.
Fassbender was incredible in Basterds. What with this and Lex’s admission that he hasn’t watched The Insider since 2000 i’m really starting to worry about the guy.
Given that the last three Superman films were crimes against cinema surely Snyder can come up with something halfway decent. Right?
I can’t be the only one who feels the need to begrudgingly defend SUPERMAN RETURNS? It’s a really well-shot and almost aggressively different Superman movie. In a lot of ways it’s really calm and the ending in particular is way too zen. It’s not even a very good movie but in the age of reboots it’s interesting and almost commendable to watch something so slavish to what’s come before.
Also Kate Bosworth is all wrong but all kind’s of adorable in it. Speaking of wrong:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRVUOGUmxJI
Couldn’t care less. This one is D.O.A.
Returns wasn’t dark and edgy. In fact it had a proper tone. It was a character study of Superman that was admirable in theory. However in execution, Lex and his plan was terrible. Bosworth was too young, and once again Superman doesn’t punch anything.
Superman as absentee father? Superman acting as voyeur with Lois and her new family? Superkid crushing a henchman to death with a piano? Lex Luthor stabbing Superman in the ribs with a shard of Kryptonite and breaking it off in the wound? I must have missed the Curt Swan version of those scenes.
Superman Returns had some nice scenes, most notably the airliner rescue and the Metropolis earthquake. Ultimately, though, it didn’t have the courage to be square, with the squarest superhero there is. Singer tried to duplicate Donner, but didn’t have Donner’s (or Lester’s) deft touch. I worry that Snyder, with a Nolan script, will fall into the same trap.
Returns is flawed but not as horrible as often made out to be.
Routh was perfect and it’s a shame he’s not back. The two real weak links were Bosworth (okay if it was a reboot, but WAY too young to be an older Kidder) and Lex’s weak plan. Spacey wasn’t even so bad and there IS some good stuff in there.
It’s certainly better than whatever craziness Tim Burton and Nic Cage were up to before they shut that down and we should all praise our deity of choice Burton didn’t get back into the game for this reboot. No doubt it would have featured Johnny Depp doing something truly “wacky,” “unique” and perhaps even “unexpected” with the character.
I haven’t seen The Tudors so I don’t know what to make of this Cavill thing except to say I hope Snyder can do something interesting with this.
Oh, and count me in with LexG as far as thinking Fassbender was just fine but not hugely remarkable in Inglorious Basterds. Anyone who thinks he STOLE THE MOVIE with his two scenes (as good as they were) is 100% out to lunch.
Before this Superman flick is out you can catch Cavill in the kidnapping thriller The Cold Light Of Day where Bruce Willis and Sigourney Weaver plays his kidnapped parents.
Condolences to Brandon Routh fans.
Wait, let me rephrase that: condolences to Brandon Routh.
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