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The King’s Speech has won SAG’s Best Ensemble award, thus triple-confirming the inevitable Best Picture win. Father, forgive them for they know not what they do. Actually they probably do know what they do and don’t give a shit about the judgment of history.
Correction, Jeff, no one who actually works for a living actually CREATING gives a shit what outside critics have to say. You don’t contribute to the process, only sit in false judgement of it.
To quote King George VI, “FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCKEN BUGGITY BUGGITY FUCK FUCK ASS BALLS BALLS FUCK AND WILLY AND FUCK and……tits.”
remember that time, a week ago, when all the “gurus” were dinosaurs for clinging to the false hope that King’s Speech could ever stop the Social Network juggernaut?
that was awesome
Joe, always remember that critics operate in a vacuum. They write only for themselves and their little dark, defeated friends.
Get a grip, man. Christ.
The made for tv movie wins again.
Deserves repeating:
“Correction, Jeff, no one who actually works for a living actually CREATING gives a shit what outside critics have to say. You don’t contribute to the process, only sit in false judgment of it.”
Filmsnob: While the other made for TV loses.
Did I miss a trend while I was busy watching Olmi’s “One Hundred Nails?”
Repent! Repent!
Jeff will there be an Oscar Poker post mortem this weekend for DGA/SAG?
“The made for tv movie wins again.”
as opposed to TSN, that epic mindfuck fever dream of visual mastery.
Up to the minute summary for those of you with lives that don’t have an Awards Season black monolith mysteriously planted by aliens in your front yard to focus all of your thoughts and energies on only one single dazzling ray of awakening consciousness:
The Oscar Best Picture Race Today
On Jan. 21 Tim Gray wrote in Variety, “The race is not over.”
Up to that point, “The Social Network” had won every major critics group award, as well as the Golden Globe for Best Picture.
On Jan. 22 “The King’s Speech” won the PGA Best Pic Award.
On Jan. 25 “The King’s Speech” won the most Oscar nominations, including Best Pic.
On Jan. 29 “The King’s Speech won the DGA Best Director Award.
On Jan. 30 “The King’s Speech” won the SAG Best Actor and all-important SAG Best Ensemble Award.
As filmsofdusts so eloquently summarized above: “The Social Network” as of today has a virtual clean sweep of awards from critics and journalists.
“The King’s Speech” has a virtual clean sweep of awards from those inside the filmmaking business, arts and crafts.
Sure as hell a two-way race now.
Question for anyone who wants to make a guess: Is it actually a three-way race?
It’s a one-way race.
it’s this generations Chariots of Fire – taking out the film about the “now” – Atlantic City.
I’m organizing the office Oscar Pool again this year. Gonna quote Jeff Wells in my initial email so everyone picks Social Network ftw. Meanwhile, I’ll select Speech and win the top prize again.
gaydos nailed in his first comment. They’re BOTH little more than entertaining HBO Films that added NOTHING to the history of cinema.
Neither of them has anything on the best picture nominee we saw last night in terms of depicting just how unpredictable and messy human motivations & actions can be, THE FIGHTER. I now have four films I’d rather see win than the 2 supposed front runners: FIGHTER, WINTER’S BONE, INCEPTION and TOY STORY 3. Still haven’t seen 127 HOURS.
Sorry, corey3rd, just watched CHARIOTS for the first time in decades and damn does that film hold up well. No swipe at CITY.
Anybody see the smug Harvey ACTUALLY high-fiving some little bitch that works for him? It was gross. Must be good to be back in the game, god help us all.
Ryan Gosling not winning Best Actor is more shameful than Social Network not winning Best Picture.
I don’t see what was so great about TSN. I found it dull to sit through. I don’t see it standing the test of time with people wanting to watch it a few years down the road. For me the winner of the Oscar should be able to stand the test of time. The question I always ask myself when awards are handed out is will people want to see it years from now with any interest. If not it should not win. BTW Jeff I’m young and not part of this old people conspiracy you are trying trumpet.
Wells: be sure to slit vertically, not horizontally.
phantasmata with the win!
Save us Toy Story 3, you’re our only hope
FYI just to make your stomach turn. I actually liked True Grit more than the other nominees. I know it doesn’t stand of chance of winning though or maybe…
If only Inception had opened in December…
“it’s this generations Chariots of Fire – taking out the film about the “now” – Atlantic City.”
Wait, what? The movie ‘Chariots of Fire’ beat was ‘Reds’ and, secondarily, ‘On Golden Pond’. Neither one of which was about the “now”.
Finally saw TSN tonite, and while I did like it, I get why it wasn’t BP material. There’s no real motivation behind movie Zuckerberg’s actions like there was in Kane. Nor is there any sense of growth or maturity. He’s just a tinkerer who hopes to strike it rich. Plus, I don’t really see any point in bringing in Bill Gates to the film, unless they were going to imply that they’re peas in a pod when it comes to appropriating IPs while claiming the mantle of “young genius entrepreneur”. And while that may or not be true, the film needed to go beyond that, and once again see what makes movie Mark tick. You see it with his friends, but he’s just hanging out most of the time and not doing anything important, even though it’s *his* company.
Plus, there needed to be some sort of real down-fall. I mean, the guy’s still got tons of money, he didn’t get into any real legal trouble like movie Shawn Fanning, nor is he unlikely to have any trouble finding dates any time soon. I’m gonna have to agree with Lex that, considering the kind of content they were able to buy with a PG-13 rating, it might’ve just been better to aim for the R, and give us the 20-something Internet start-up answer to Scarface. Because this needed some edge, not just general audience-friendly Girls Gone Wild scenes in the background.
I did dig Fincher’s homage to The Killer’s row-boat scene, though.
1996: ‘Apollo 13′ wins from the PGA, the DGA, SAG, and the WGA.
2006: ‘Little Miss Sunshine’ wins from the PGA, SAG, and the WGA.
I like how DZ fancies himself a serious critic now, but can’t understand the Bill Gates scene, where the dialogue literally underlines and explains exactly why it’s in the movie; it’s just a joke.
1996: ‘Apollo 13′ wins from the PGA, the DGA, SAG, and the WGA.
2006: ‘Little Miss Sunshine’ wins from the PGA, SAG, and the WGA
2011 – “The King’s Speech” wins from the PGA, DGA, SAG, BAFTA, and OSCARS
2012 – Opinions from critics and bloggers are declared to be obsolete and sent to the cornfield.
DZ doesn’t understand anything, ever.
That was also the best looking Bill Gates impersonator I’ve seen
Chase – its only within the last week or two that critics and bloggers decided that ‘Social Network’ was going to win. I know because Jeff, who has stuck to his guns, has been calling them all out on it when they switched over, and most of them are pretty recent. Now all the critics and bloggers have gone back to ‘King’s Speech’ — yet you’re saying that will win, which would seem to mean that they’re right, not wrong.
The best Bill Gates impersonator will remain now and forever the guy who looks nothing like him in the From Tha Church to the Palace video who says “Yeah I know the homey Snoop.”
“LexG says …
Ryan Gosling not winning Best Actor is more shameful than Social Network not winning Best Picture.”
TRUTH. Snub of the year and no one’s talking about it.
Bobby, who said anything about them being right or wrong? I just said they’re obsolete.
I haven’t seen Blue Valentine, but the clips I’ve seen suggest I probably won’t like Gosling’s hipster Brando
I haven’t met you, but the things you write make me think if we were having lunch together I would probably have to get up and leave.
“Correction, Jeff, no one who actually works for a living actually CREATING gives a shit what outside critics have to say. You don’t contribute to the process, only sit in false judgement of it.”
What the fuck is this? You call a bunch of guys who direct sitcoms on television Creators? Or self-loathing wannabe actors who grovel at the sight of some pedigreed English film with classically-trained thespians? Because those are the tools who handed these Guild wins to The King’s Speech, not the actual talented people that voted in them.
Give me a break. For every director and actor in these guild with any kind of artistic bent there are probably 100 who just show up like working stiffs in any other job, and don’t create ANYTHING aside from the new installment of whatever shallow vessel is currently filling the multimedia conglomerate’s coffers.
Jeff, get this Chase Meridian asshole out of here.
Hey Lazarus, be careful you don’t get near any balloons with that pinhead of yours. You might pop them, just like your Social Network dirigible exploded over the past week. OH THE HUMANITY! So let me understand this, these scourges of the DGA and SAG that you condemn; when they voted for Kathryn Bigelow, Danny Boyle, The Coen Brothers and their films in recent years, were they also “tools” then?
Why don’t you take your little crybaby towel and mop that fevered brow? Flop sweat is very unbecoming.
When they inscribe Tom Hooper’s Oscar I just hope they remember it’s spelled A-V-L-I-D-S-E-N.
Disco, please refrain from to trying to be funny until at least you learn how to spell. I’m sure the inscriber did just fine when they put AVILDSEN on his Oscar. And his film is still beloved 35 years later. Think the same will be said about The Social Network in 2046?
“please refrain from trying” (At least I correct my mistakes)
This Chase Meridian person’s funsy. She’s all like, “HEY! I’ve got an opinion and stuff, too! And I like movies with HEART and SOUL, like ‘The King’s Speech!’ And you know who I don’t like? Those mean old critics! They’re on the way out anyway…Jeff Jarvis said that! And what’s Bill O’Reilly call those…oh, yeah! Pinheads! There’s nothing to this blog commenting thing! I’m gonna do it A LOT!”
Like I said. Funsy!
Apollo 13 did not win the WGA. Sense and Sensibility won for Adapted. Assuming King’s Speech wins the WGA, has there ever been a film that won the PGA, DGA, WGA, and SAG that lost the Best Picture Oscar? Even Brokeback Mountain didn’t win all the Guild awards. It won the PGA, DGA, and WGA, but lost the SAG to Crash.
I haven’t seen either the King’s speech or the TSN, however, I watched the SAGS last night. And if “personality” of the actors wins the race, then the actors from TSN fail.
They came out like fraternity snits and they sat at their tables looking bored. And is Eisenberg really THAT short? None of those guys looked like they were actors, they acted and looked like snotty rich frat guys. If they’re going to events where they have to meet the voters, then I can see a turn off.
The Kings Speech isn’t eligible for the WGA.
Chicago48:
Watching the female-free TSN ensemble onstage last night, it served to remind everyone that women were marginalized in the movie, and I think that has a lot to do with the slippage the film is experiencing, especially in direct contrast to the leading films.
Although it would have been token, they really should have paraded Rooney Mara out there last night.
Chicago – the thing is, nobody expected them to win. It was between ‘The Fighter’ and ‘The King’s Speech’.
jse – you’re right, I didn’t look closely enough at that. But it’s a moot point, ‘The King’s Speech’ wasn’t eligible for the WGA for some unspecified reason.
Was Guy Pearce there last night? Was his name mentioned even once? What the hell?
JR,
They’re films, not gladiator contests. Settle down.
It’s an honor to be nominated.
And none of the nominees are in the class of “Crash” or “Shakepeare in Love”. Whichever movie gets the oscar, it won’t tarnish the Academy Awards even slightly, not this year.
Jeff -
You realize according to your 12 Angry Men analogy this means you’ve been Lee J Cobb this whole time.
Give me “Shakespeare in Love” over “The King’s Speech”
Chase Meridian, I’d like to think if I were ever in the game (which it seems like you might be in a sad roundabout way) and in the tank for something, it would be more deserving than RETURN OF THE QUEEN. I correct my spelling, made at 4 in the morning on the east coast, and acknowledge that it completely negates my point that ROCKY is a fine movie but could have been directed by anybody and that it’s a joke it beat out the directors of TAXI DRIVER, ALL THE PRESIDENT’S MEN, and NETWORK.
Like the man said, it ain’t over till it’s over, but to try to dull your agony for a moment, what did you think of the Sundance winners, Jeff? I know you didn’t see everything you wanted to, but your feedback would be appreciated.
And amen to your last post, DiscoNap.
What’s sad is the whole internet-age idea that “critics” are useless commodity. Informed opinions on any subject are now so passe. What do we need “experts” for when anybody can post on his/her blog. Well, we used to call such people “wise,” and listen to what they said, but that’s another passe concept. Now they’re just elitists. Wisdom is so overrated. I mean, why trust the scientists about evolution, or the critics about movies, or the politicians about governance. Because they’ve devoted their lives to these areas?! Hah – I’ve got a blog and I can type faster than them, so what do they have that I don’t have!?
Can someone run by Wells’ hotel room to make sure he’s still breathing. wouldn’t want him to do something rash after this weekend’s cataclysmic developments.
From someone who very nearly shat a brick when Shakespeare in Love upset SPR, I’ve been shocked at how well Shakespeare in Love has held up. SPR was still the better film, but it’s not got a lot of rewatch value.
All ten films are better than Crash – or Brokeback Mountain for that matter. They’re all better than A Beautiful Mind or Braveheart. The King’s Speech is better than the Hurt Locker. And Chicago. And a whole lot of other shitty movies that have won Best Picture.
The King’s Speech isn’t the best film that came out this year, but it’s a damn good one. And, even if Weinstein has been more than willing to cynically play up the film’s monarchist/WWII/overcoming disability elements, the film itself plays the whole thing pretty straight.
The Social Network is a fine film from some great talent. But, in ten years, it’s not going to be any more relevant than the King’s Speech. In fact, Brokeback Mountain is a great comparison. The superficial, socially relevant elements (in Brokeback, gay love; in TSN, Facebook) and the incredible talent involved obscure a rote story. Think about it this way, would you still care this much about TSN if it was about the founder of Friendster? Or Myspace?
“Think about it this way, would you still care this much about TSN if it was about the founder of Friendster? Or Myspace?”
Oh God, are we doing this again?
This dog has been beaten beyond death into some hyper-masticated dialectic sludge in so many ways, it’s truly comical. It has been enormously entertaining reading the bulk of everyone’s thoughts on the matter. I wish I felt the same level of adrenaline that you felt, Jeff, on first seeing TSN. I did think it was a razor sharp and fascinating look at the genesis of one our latest cultural phenomenons. Everything about it is first rate, there’s no denying it. The script is mercurial, brilliant, the direction compliments it seamlessly, the performances crackle with wit and vitality.
But I have a couple of years on – I’m sure – most people on here, including Jeff, and I think the older we get the more we expect and are less rewarded. It doesn’t mean I feel out of touch with what is presumably good or relevant. I see a lot of movies every year, and I always hope for the home run. “Carlos” came very close for me, a truly ambitious, sprawling marvel. And we’re talking here about a movie made for French TV, and therefore not eligible for a Foreign Film Oscar. That’s too bad, because it deserves one. Every so often I mention on here how much I loved “The Best of Youth”, yet another film made for TV – Italian. For me that film was a perfect model of storytelling that immersed me in the story and the characters that few films have in recent years. Six hours that I didn’t want to end. You can’t give a film any higher praise than that. It has a rare emotional resonance that is light years beyond the civil emotional niceties of TKS.
Maybe that is the key word – resonance. That and the test of time. I think it’s fatuous to compare TSN to “Citizen Kane” at this point. Why does everyone have to reach for the easy hyperbole? It isn’t often that I’ve felt what Jeff felt at seeing TSN for the first time. As a teen, I remember feeling that epiphany after seeing “2001″ and “The Godfather”, that what I just saw was historic, an instant classic. I’m going to hope for that same feeling when I see “The Tree of Life” and some other anticipated films this year, a lot of them on Jeff’s Oscar Balloon. In fact, Jeff, why don’t you add Steve McQueen’s “Shame” to your list? Just because you get older doesn’t mean that you want to sit in your lazy boy and beam at someone overcoming his stammer instead of being challenged by a Noe or a Von Trier.
@Paul K
Thanks for reminding me how great The Best of Youth is. I loved it! Better than anything nominated this year.
“I’ve been shocked at how well Shakespeare in Love has held up. SPR was still the better film, but it’s not got a lot of rewatch value.”
SPR is immensely watchable. I can’t even finish SIL.
I don’t get why Rocky gets hate. It’s a great movie, that is more than just an underdog boxing film. Rightful winner
SPR was one of the more jaw-dropping filmgoing experiences of my life. But the intensity of it dulls every time I rewatch it. That’s not a flaw; it’s just a function of the type of film it is for me.
I maintain that the biggest snub this year was I Am Love across the board.
“ROCKY is a fine movie but could have been directed by anybody and that it’s a joke it beat out the directors of TAXI DRIVER, ALL THE PRESIDENT’S MEN, and NETWORK. ”
That is flat out ridiculous. If ‘Rocky’ could have been directed by anybody, then at least one of the million “Rocky” knock-offs in the world would be good. But none of them are. The only ‘Rocky’ knock-off that approaches the greatness of ‘Rocky’ is ‘The Karate Kid’, and that’s the same director. So, clearly, he has *something* that you’re completely ignoring because you’re mad that ‘Network’ didn’t get even more over-praised that year.
‘don’t give a shit about the judgement of history’?
we are talking about the oscars, here. right? this isn’t a war crimes trial. yes? or, an attempt to put a man on mars. it’s just an award given to a movie. yes? is that correct?
mr. wells. once again, yet again, you have stretched hyperbole to its breaking point. your commentary becomes ever more warped. however, with 66 coments so far, mission accomplished. bills paid. yes?
“Correction, Jeff, no one who actually works for a living actually CREATING gives a shit what outside critics have to say. You don’t contribute to the process, only sit in false judgment of it.”
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