Butt Cheeks

It doesn’t seem like the Crimson Tide junket, held at the Marina del Rey Ritz Carlton, happened nearly 16 years ago. But it did. Sometimes you’ll turn around and realize something that happened not that long ago happened a good while ago. A kid born in ’95 could be six-foot-four and driving a Harley and writing screenplays and making big money as a model.

This Quentin Tarantino/Roger Avary riff about the gay subtext in Top Gun (from Sleep With Me, a 1994 relationship film) reminded me of a goof idea I threw at Crimson Tide producers Jerry Bruckheimer and the late Don Simpson during an interview. I told them, “Guys, you’re missing out on a whole marketing angle here. You need to do an Advocate cover story and talk about the gay metaphors in all your films, starting with the submarine in Crimson Tide.”

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  2. I’m pretty sure something has to be sublimated to be subtextual. TOP GUN is just gloriously homoerotic, among it’s myriad pleasures. The underpinnings of CRIMSON TIDE are Hackman’s racism, which is sort of brushed aside at the end.

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  5. Amazing to see Todd Field was on the receiving end of that riff. I’d not seen this clip in so long, guess I didn’t know who he was then.

    Just did a quick IMDB glance at Field, it’s good to see he’s got another directorial effort in the works.

    Also I wonder what the HE community will think of the big Tarantino rumors circulating today? That his next flick will be a spaghetti western? (possibly working-titled The Angel, The Bad and The Wise, though that detail’s been disputed).

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  8. >That his next flick will be a spaghetti western?

    He was channeling Sergio Leone for a lot of Inglourious Basterds, so it wouldn’t surprise me that’s where his head’s at these days.

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  9. He’s been channeling Leone for the better part of the past decade, really. In addition to what you said, the stark visual compositions in KB: V2 and the soundtracks to that and IB…

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  12. Deadline yesterday mentioned something about Tarantino’s next movie; how it’s being quietly prepped and how he will deliver a script to Weinstein in two months. The movie being a western is speculation I think, though it would be interesting to see what Tarantino does with that genre.

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  13. So if it’s a spaghetti western, what will it really be about? The way his supposed 70s-Italian-WWII-junk homage was, in fact, the only good leftist movie about the war on terror. Tarantino being five steps smarter and craftier than anybody in H’wood except the Coens, behind his video-store-village-idiot persona, the junkier his announced project, the more promising it sounds.

    Okay, admittedly there’s Grindhouse, too.

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  14. Total agreement with corbeau.

    Yeah, the lack of subtext kind of hurt Death Proof (at least in regard to his other films), but to be fair, it feel like it was just supposed to be a minor work; a surface lark.

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  15. Anything with Tarantino is “I’ll believe it when a studio announces it” for me, but, if he’s finally pulling the trigger and actually doing his western, he’s always said it would be about slavery.

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  16. So if it’s a spaghetti western, what will it really be about? The way his supposed 70s-Italian-WWII-junk homage was, in fact, the only good leftist movie about the war on terror. Tarantino being five steps smarter and craftier than anybody in H’wood except the Coens, behind his video-store-village-idiot persona, the junkier his announced project, the more promising it sounds.

    Okay, admittedly there’s Grindhouse, too.

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  17. le corbeau: “The way his supposed 70s-Italian-WWII-junk homage was, in fact, the only good leftist movie about the war on terror.”

    Um, what’s “leftist” about making a Gitmo apologist movie?

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  18. “Um, what’s “leftist” about making a Gitmo apologist movie?”

    What movie are you talking about? I’m talking about the one that implicates the viewer, seemingly approvingly, in every act of violence committed by his band of American Jews, only to end with the Jews becoming suicide bombers (like al-Qaeda) and the creators of a fiery gotterdammerung of mass murder (like the Nazis).

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  19. le: “What movie are you talking about? ”

    The same one, where torture and murder of POWs is justified to obtain information?

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  21. “Um, what’s “leftist” about making a Gitmo apologist movie?”

    What movie are you talking about? I’m talking about the one that implicates the viewer, seemingly approvingly, in every act of violence committed by his band of American Jews, only to end with the Jews becoming suicide bombers (like al-Qaeda) and the creators of a fiery gotterdammerung of mass murder (like the Nazis).

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