So What?
What’s so awful about The Hangover Part II director Todd Phillips comparing his new film (Warner Bros., 5.26) to The Godfather Part II? Francis Coppola‘s 1974 classic is widely regarded as a sequel that was better (or certainly artier) than the original. Phillips is merely claiming in a droll, tongue-in-cheek way that The Hangover Part II is better than The Hangover…that’s all. Hardly a crime, even if it turns out to be bullshit.
“I think there are very few sequels that have been made that live up to or exceed their first film,” Phillips tells MTV.com’s Josh Horowitz in the above clip. “We had always planned on calling [our film] The Hangover 2, and when we finished the script, I changed the cover page and wrote The Hangover Part II, because I think the film lives up to or exceeds the first one. It was very much a nod to The Godfather.”
He actually meant “a nod to The Godfather, Part II“….Jesus, get this stuff straight.
it’s not nearly as funny as Human Centipede Phase 2
This man is a genius and one of the only directors since Landis who can make comedy cinematic. Seems like the awesomest dude ever.
And if I’ve said it once I’ve said it a billion times, G1 isn’t even CLOSE to G2. G1 is a hambone pulp fest where James Caan slaps his hairy knuckles all being NOT ITALIAN while ranting BARZINI BARZINI BARZINI –the stupidest, most EMBARRASSING NAME EVER– like 600 times and going BADA BING BADA BOOM!
Part II is the real deal though. Part I is goofy as hell.
i like the hangover 2 too
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One could write a very thick book on how Copppla perfected modern filmmaking from G1 to G2. Trends have come and gone, but the basic beats, angles, and pacing of G2 remain mostly unchanged today. In 100 years, one could watch G2 and then Social Network or Kings Speech and believe that they were all made in the same year.
G1, however, is from a different century. Very few scenes would be done the same way if it were remade.
BTW, if Phillips intention with the title to portray this as a superior sequel, why not call it Hangovers ala Aliens.
I really hate this myth that Godfather Part II is better. It’s infinitely more appealing watching Michael become the don, than seeing him act as one. Plus the De Niro flashbacks could be cut without missing it in the least
Mark:
Because ALIENS kinda sucks.
“BTW, if Phillips intention with the title to portray this as a superior sequel, why not call it Hangovers ala Aliens.”
Even worse. I love Cameron but he ruined the franchise. The scary realism is thrown out for shitty dialogue, action cliches, and overblown shootouts. Ripley boxes
Transplanting this from Vegas to Thailand means only one thing:
The chicks aren’t gonna be as hot. I never get this deal where white assholes go to Thailand for tail. Really? I don’t get it. Go to Russia or some HOSTEL looking SLAVIA hellhole where you can get WHITE WOMEN.
As a broke white dude in Los Angeles, I’ve eaten enough yellowtail to last ten lifetimes.
I want a white woman.
D’OH I DID IT.
If Phillips wanted Hangover 2 be better, why not go back to Vegas? You didn’t see The Godfather 2 move to England or Japan. He could have picked up the story where they go back to Vegas and all kinds of things could have happened.
As for sequels, of course GF2 was great. So was Toy Story 2. Aliens also.
I hope Hangover 2 is as good as the first.
Please. Aliens eats Alien’s lunch.
And educate me on the action cliches. How many staggering action sequences unfolded on digital POV cameras before Aliens? How many after? That scene’s effectiveness pretty much started a revolution in film.
>G1 isn’t even CLOSE to G2. G1 is a hambone pulp fest where James Caan slaps his hairy knuckles all being NOT ITALIAN while ranting BARZINI BARZINI BARZINI –the stupidest, most EMBARRASSING NAME EVER– like 600 times and going BADA BING BADA BOOM!
You’re as mistaken about this as you are about Aliens — in both cases, it’s arguable. (I do prefer Alien to Aliens, but not in an open-and-shut way. Aliens is unquestionably a masterpiece, and probably the best thing Cameron ever did, all in all.)
Godfather 1 is a much warmer, more absorbing film than Godfather 2 — it has a truly epic sweep, it’s visually beautiful, and it’s a masterwork of direction and screenwriting in the way it services its vast cast of characters. Plus, it’s got that iconic Brando performance.
G2 is a fascinating film and contains maybe Pacino’s career-best acting moments. But I’ve never loved it in the way I love G1.
I’m just as guilty — if not moreso — of contributing to this trend as anyone posting here, but HE is really turning into Contrarian Central lately to such a degree that Armond White probably can’t even read this site without blushing a l’il.
While I definitely prefer G2 to G1 (nice post, btw, Mark), calling Part I “goofy as hell” is really pushing it — that movie’s a tight, self-contained masterpiece. Even if you don’t much like the story, you can just sit there and marvel at the acting, atmosphere, cinematography, and especially the whole atmosphere of the whole thing. It was classic filmmaking redefined for the ’70s era, and just because a lot of filmmakers in that decade had a similar aesthetic (Friedkin, Lumet, Schrader, etc.) doesn’t mean it was an easy feat to pull off by any stretch of the imagination.
And Aliens — really?! The ’80s as a whole contained such an absolute wasteland of cliches that there should be at least 200 titles released in that year alone before you go picking on that slickly effective action-thriller.
How one claims to enjoy ramshackle charm of the F&F flicks — let alone the abhorrent opulence of one Michael Bay — without properly acknowledging one (of a small handful of movies) that effectively grandfathered in modern action cinema is positively MIND-BENDING.
“I love Cameron but he ruined the franchise. The scary realism is thrown out for shitty dialogue, action cliches, and overblown shootouts.”
Just curious — if those are things you hate about Aliens, then what makes you say you “love Cameron?”
As per most of your posts, strikes me as peculiar bullshit.
Aliens is a great, great film. And scary as all hell.
I don’t think this has become Contrarian Central at all!
Oh wait…
I like Godfather 1 a little more than 2 and Aliens a little more than Alien, but I love all four so I don’t sleep over how to rank them.
Hey, if Hangover 1 won the Golden Globe, Phillips is just saying he think Hangover II is good enough to win the GG as well. Cuz Oscar and GG are both movie awards, so close enough.
A good sequel is a rare and beautiful thing.
I wonder if they’ll make Rabbit Hole 2: The Miscarriage.
“Just curious — if those are things you hate about Aliens, then what makes you say you “love Cameron?”
Because it’s a bore, and ruins the original film. He makes Ripley a caricature who must protect this surrogate child, instead of just being a woman trying to survive. (Mind you Newt’s existence and means of surviving is downright stupid.) I love Cameron in everything else, and his dialogue is often better than it gets credit for. That being said, the Marines are awful actors, and are as cheesy as you can be. As for the action, the only impressive sequence to me was the buildup and attack on that room with the red lights.
The mech suits work in Avatar because it’s its own new universe. I believe that the Colonel can fight in them against these giant creatures. Seeing Ripley get in a mech suit and fucking box a queen xenomorph is just too damn stupid for me to comprehend.
Hey, everybody, all those movies that are widely regarded as classics, they’re actually lame!
Guess what ten-year-old poster I am.
“Because it’s a bore, and ruins the original film.”
I think you can call the second Alien film a lot of things, but boring isn’t one that readily comes to mind (you can level that at the next movie in the series, although I think that one’s still interesting, too). Also, it’s not trying to replace the original film at all — it’s an entirely different film with an entirely different approach (and only one returning character).
“He makes Ripley a caricature who must protect this surrogate child, instead of just being a woman trying to survive.”
It’s called a progression of character. I like it a lot; I think it ups the stakes, and makes it emotionally distinct from the original (and I sort of buy that if there’s anyone with which Ripley would feel a maternal instinct/bond, it would be a girl that had to survive “those things” at a younger age than even she did).
“I love Cameron in everything else, and his dialogue is often better than it gets credit for.”
Is it? I would like to hear some examples. If anything, this kind of dialogue makes a lot more sense coming out of the mouths of marines than it does, say, Billy Zane.
“Seeing Ripley get in a mech suit and fucking box a queen xenomorph is just too damn stupid for me to comprehend.”
I don’t have any problem with the internal logic of that scene at all. After all, she’s not “boxing” it, idiot — she’s trying to kill it — or, at the very least, find an improvisational way to overpower/disable it. Once you take guns out of the equation, this type of machinery naturally becomes the next best solution (to such an extent that Alien3 used a similar logic in its world-building).
“I like Godfather 1 a little more than 2 and Aliens a little more than Alien, but I love all four so I don’t sleep over how to rank them.”
That’s all I’m saying. I know we all have our personal preferences, and it can get passionate (I wouldn’t have it any other way, frankly), but let’s be real here — none of these movies “suck,” or even “kinda suck.” They’re all awesome.
‘”I like Godfather 1 a little more than 2 and Aliens a little more than Alien, but I love all four so I don’t sleep over how to rank them.”
That’s all I’m saying. I know we all have our personal preferences, and it can get passionate (I wouldn’t have it any other way, frankly), but let’s be real here — none of these movies “suck,” or even “kinda suck.” They’re all awesome.’
This. Aliens and Godfather 2 are pretty much the two best sequels of all time (Empire too). I find it impossible to rank them, although I differentiate the two Alien flicks by saying that Alien is a great piece of filmmaking and Aliens is a great piece of moviemaking – and that’s not intended to denigrate Cameron’s flick, which I watched just about every night for a year when it frst hit VHS.
SUPERMAN II and SPIDER-MAN 2 were also better than the originals. And who can forget Police Academy 2: Their First Assignment?
‘”I like Godfather 1 a little more than 2 and Aliens a little more than Alien, but I love all four so I don’t sleep over how to rank them.”
That’s all I’m saying. I know we all have our personal preferences, and it can get passionate (I wouldn’t have it any other way, frankly), but let’s be real here — none of these movies “suck,” or even “kinda suck.” They’re all awesome.’
This. Aliens and Godfather 2 are pretty much the two best sequels of all time (Empire too). I find it impossible to rank them, although I differentiate the two Alien flicks by saying that Alien is a great piece of filmmaking and Aliens is a great piece of moviemaking – and that’s not intended to denigrate Cameron’s flick, which I watched just about every night for a year when it frst hit VHS.
Nothing more boring than a bunch of dorks discussing ALIEN movies. Especially the second one.
Let me remind you all that it has 47 MINUTES OF PAUL REISER before anything exciting whatsoever happens.
And it’s the only ALIEN movie in AMATEUR-ASS 1.85:1, meaning it’s not even a real movie.
@great scott: No way Police Academy 2 is better than the original!
@great scott: No way Police Academy 2 is better than the original!
Agree with everything CitizenKaned said in this thread and markj is also correct about Police Academy 2. Goldthwait was gold in the sequel.
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