Ford on LaBeouf: “Effing Idiot”
Harrison Ford has allegedly told a Details inteviewer that Shia LaBeouf was a “fucking idiot” for publicly criticizing Indiana Jones And The Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull in a May 2010 interview with L.A. Times writer Steven Zeitchik.
Nope, wrong. LaBeouf was being refreshingly honest about what everyone and his cousin believes was probably the worst of the Indiana Jones films, and he waited two years to say what he thought so what’s the problem?
Ford has a bit of an old-school attitude about this stuff, but let’s clarify that he hasn’t called LaBeouf an overall walking-around idiot. He’s saying — incorrectly and unfairly, I feel — that LaBeouf acted like one when he shared his true feelings about Crystal Skull. Most of us would agree that trashing the film during the promotional lead-up to the opening would have been stupid on LaBeouf’s part. But he spoke to Zeitchik two years after the film opened in May 2008 so who cares?
Crystal Skull was an abomination. LaBeouf is a rude, and indiscreet asshole.
Yeah, I’m thinking that Shia, whom I interviewed about five years ago and thought was a nice, smart kid, has morphed into an ego-ridden, giant Hollywood asshole.
The only reason it would be a bad movie on LaBeouf’s part is if the criticism burned bridges with Spielberg. It clearly didn’t, because LaBeouf stars in Spielberg’s latest production, opening today.
If, on the other hand, LaBeouf had called Spielberg a nazi, then I’m sure there’d be hell to pay.
Agree with comment #1, LaBeouf is entering a difficult phase of career, age-wise. He needs to straighten up and fly right to break through as a legitimate adult lead. Odds are against him.
I found C. Skull much more bearable than Temple of Dumb, in which absolutely nothing works and has an irritating kid to boot.
A.O. Scott has it right in his current “Transformers” review when he describes LaBeouf as “his own annoying sidekick.”
How does this guy get to phonily strut in these interviews without getting slapped around? How is his contrivance toward “Hollywood bad boy” status not laughed out of every room he enters? He’s two decades too late to play the nerd in John Hughes films.
Can anyone explain why LaBeouf is deemed to be star material? The guy has n-o-t-h-i-n-g going on. He’s not funny or sexy or intriguing or charismatic in the least. He was a cipher in “Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps” and he’s downright awful in “Transformers 3,” in which he tries to do a Tom Cruise impersonation that’s equal parts “Knight and Day” and “Tropic Thunder.” Someone called him the contemporary C. Thomas Howell, but I think even Howell had more personality.
LaBeouf’s recent interviews have been terribly douchey, they reek of a nerdy kid trying to convince everyone he is really cool.
I don’t see him making the leap to adult movie star, he looks like kind of eternal manboy which is usually movie star death. I haven’t thought he was good in anything since the first Transformers and he was definitely the weak link in Wall Street 2 and Indy 4(especially playing a rebel which was just ridiculous.)
He can feel the opportunity slipping away and I think that’s why he is starting to sound like a douche, to do anything he can to convince everyone that he is a man and has lots of sex with hot costars and is not a nerdy virginal manboy.
Man, I miss the days when we had young stars who had REAL charisma and REAL talent. I mean, who is this generation’s Tom Cruise? Robert F. Pattinson or this yammering douche??
It is really depressing that Shia LaPoof is a major star.
And, yes, he’s “refreshingly” honest – he just admitted in an interview that he fucked Megan Fox – probably while she was still in a relationship.. I am sure she applauds his refreshing nature.
What a little prick.
Shia was absolutely pandering in that interview to distance himself from Crystal Skull and place himself on Team Hate, which had more members. Shia is not a solitary artist, e.g., a writer of a book, so you can’t shit on the final product and not offend the 100′s of people that spent a year of hard work on that movie. You don’t say “we botched it”. You say “I was terrible and didn’t help the cause”, like Pitt did years after Meet Joe Black.
And Shia is an absolute spaz in his current flick.
probably the worst of the Indiana Jones films,
PROBABLY??
I’ll take the worst moment of any of the other three movies over the best moment of Crystal Skull (which was… oh, wait, *nothing*).
Crystal Skull didn’t piss me off. It just made me sad.
As for Shia… agreed: how he is a movie star escapes me. He’s never added a single thing to a movie as far as I can tell. At best, he’s the “straight guy” in movies starring Harrison Ford, Michael Douglas, and $200 million in CGI.
And, to go all pissy-bitchy Jeffrey for a moment: Shia has a weirdly-shaped head covered in nappy hair. It’s impossible to escape how weird he looks. And not interesting-weird like John Malkovich or Ron Perlman, but weak-looking-weird.
And, of course, it doesn’t help that he *still* looks like he’s sixteen years old (and acts like he’s twelve).
I was rooting for Shia to break out after watching Project Greenlight 2 and then Holes. Despite Crystal Skull and TF2, I don’t hate the kid; I just wonder where he’s going to go from here.
And Crystal Skull’s a little better than Temple of Doom.
But yeah, who in their 20′s has real talent and star power? Probably an Australian.
The problem was that the skull belonged to an alien when it should have belonged to Loretta Young.
I never saw it and have no desire to. BUT, this isn’t the first time that SL belittled the film. When he was in London doing press for the pic, he said more than a few negative thinks to friends who were there, off the record, of course.
Crystal Skull really isn’t that bad. It’s all relative. Compare the craftsmanship in that to most of the dross that passes for ‘cinema’ these days and it’s damn near a masterpiece. I’s go out on a limb and say its better than Last Crusade which is a pretty shoddy, lazy piece of work and turns Indy and most of the supporting characters into comedy sidekicks.
Shia needs to learn when to shut the hell up. If you want to play the Hollywood game, you can’t trash the writer and director of your films, especially if one of them is STEVEN FUCKING SPIELBERG. You can have your opinion of the film, but don’t openly trash it to the media. Talk to the involved parties behind closed doors; there’s no reason to throw a film under the bus to the media.
Geez, what’s with the hate against the original Indy films?
Not a fan of LaBeouf, but when it comes to Ford: He’s always been about business. Ford’s never viewed what he does as an art form; he sees it as a job, with employers to whom he owes his loyalty. I’m not surprised he’d get pissed at Shia over this, no matter how long it had been since the movie opened.
Actually, the first half of Crystal Skull was terrific. The rest was awful though.
No need for “alleged” and no need for any clarification, if you just look at the full quote and the context in Details. Which of course the notorious NME subtly altered.
“I think I told him he was a fucking idiot,” the famously reticent star says. “As an actor, I think it’s my obligation to support the film without making a complete ass of myself. Shia is ambitious, attentive, and talented – and he’s learning how to deal with a situation which is very unique and difficult.”
Big difference between Ford recounting to a reporter that he thinks he called Shia directly a fucking idiot to his face back then, versus Ford explicitly calling him a fucking idiot, today, directly to a reporter, behind Shia’s back.
He said the same thing about Transformers 2, and as far as I’m concerned, the kid deserves some kind of medal. He’s always been a so-so actor, but I have way more respect for him than I do for Ford at this point, whose two iconic roles (Han Solo, Indiana Jones) have elevated him to this quasi-legendary status, when in reality – let’s be honest – he’s not all that great either.
Ford has two iconic roles under his belt. That’s one or two more than nearly everybody else has.
To a lot of people, Shia is still that kid from EVEN STEVENS. He doesn’t have the clout to have earned more success than Ford.
I think it’s getting a little annoying now that actors and directors are coming out two years after movies open and admitting that they sucked after they’ve already made a billion dollars worldwide. Yeah, we know it sucked. You scammed us out of 12 bucks, dick head. Guess you weren’t feeling honest before your residual check cleared.
Zach, let’s be honest, you’re a fucking idiot. Give Shia a medal for accepting paychecks to do trashy movies that he later trashes, and let’s shit on Harrison Ford, who supports and fights for his directors.
Maybe I’m missing something, but if your main gig is lead and co-lead roles in shitty blockbuster movies and then you piss off the makers of these shitty movies, so they no longer cast you in these shitty movies, what will you have left? “I was the worst thing about a terrible Michael Bay/Steven Spielberg movie that literally not a single person saw because I was in it.” Not a great line on a resume.
thatmovieguy-
WRONG. He’s far from awful in Transformers 3, and he’s actually very funny and attractive (yeah, he is attractive) and appealing in both Disturbia and Eagle Eye, where he even came off as almost empathetic. The guy is talented and if he has a little too much confidence, who the fuck cares?
If we’re judging non-Indiana/Han iconic roles, let’s rate Sam Witwicky among the following:
Jack Ryan
President James Marshall
Richard Kimball
John Book
Rick Deckard
Agreed. Why the heck does he deserve a medal for coming out 2 years later when everyone says the films are awful and saying he agrees that they are terrible. Why not just turn down the fricken movie, that is actor cred. If you are going to take a massive paycheck job to try and become a movie star and brag about fucking Megan Fox, you don’t have honor when you bitch about it later. You are just a tool. He obliterates them in such a douchey way, not like Clooney who goes on record about Batman 4 and just says he was awful and takes blame. Shia goes, “Yeah they fucked up and were terrible and its not my fault.”
The new Favreau interviews of Ford, done in part to promote Cowboys & Aliens, are very much worth watching. Ford is really happy to be there, and it shows. Totally entertaining, and I had forgotten how good he can be…
Mr. F beat me to it. Once every 20 interviews Ford shows what a funny, smart, genial guy he can be. The Favreau bits are nothing less than great.
As for this whole Shia thing…Ford’s entire logic doesn’t seem to be that the film was GOOD but rather that when you’re promoting a film you should play the game. I guess I dig that sentiment in that I wouldn’t want some young snot interfering with my back end haul but it’s a bit of a shallow comment, isn’t it? After all, Shia was RIGHT.
As others have pointed out, if Spielberg was actually pissed at him, he wouldn’t still be in Transformers. At the end of the day, he’s as replaceable as Fox or anyone else is.
Also, not only does he have nappy hair he’s also got really pointy…what do you call em – those parts of your hairline that poke out at your temples. It weirded me out during Wall Street and seems like something Jeff should have noticed.
Mark, learn to read and comprehend before you respond, because you sound like a 6th grader. This theoretical medal isn’t for “accepting paychecks,” but for having the balls to call out piece of shit films for what they are instead of defending them like every other tool in Hollywood. And whether or not Ford “fights for his directors” is irrelevant. My point was that despite being cast in quality projects, he’s highly overrated as an actor.
And keep in mind that Ford is 68, and LeBeouf is 25, so your role comparison isn’t exactly practical.
Any time someone writes shit like “The first half of Crystal Skull was terrific” or “Crystal Skull is better than (insert Temple of Doom or Last Crusade)”, I seriously have to re-read the sentence after spitting up my drink.
Film is subjective – I get that. But while those two earlier Indy films weren’t going to win any Oscars, they are head-and-shoulders above that fourth film. The only things Crystal Skull got right were the music and a couple of iconic shots of Indy – THAT’S IT. Anyone who thinks that the first half of the film (which contains the infamous fridge joke and the comic-relief prairie dogs) was terrific needs to stop going to movie sites and discussing their particular brand of stupidity. And I’d take Short Round screaming for two hours over watching Shia LeBoof (get a different fucking name, GEEZ) get hit in the nuts repeatedly or seeing him send psychic messages to monkeys.
FUCK THAT.
Shia may be a douche, but I have no problem with what he said about the movie. I mean, my God, did you see the damn thing? Any movie where Cate Blanchett isn’t even all that good is completely hopeless. What the fuck was it even about?
The problem is that Shia may very well be “right” that it wasn’t a satisfying movie… but how long did it take for him to come to that conclusion? When he was out promoting it for months before and after the release.. it was a GREAT movie with fantastic action, a solid story and a wonderful return to that franchise. He helped get people to shell out money to see it.
Then, when the criticisms started to come in… he was quick to do a 100% reversal. Suddenly it was a failure. Well, guess what? It either always worked or it never did. The only difference is that he didn’t know what “the masses” thought of it… then he found out and changed his tune, totally dependent on that group-think. So how is that “refreshingly honest” in any way??!!
If he had any ethics… if the movie was so bad to begin with… HE WOULDN’T HAVE SIGNED ON TO DO IT IN THE FIRST PLACE. But I’m sure, at the time, he thought it was the coolest project he would ever be in.
Mr. F is pretty on-point here. The new star/director/whoever meme of apologizing for or trashing a movie that “the fans” didn’t like (which isn’t even the same thing as mass audiences) is asskissery disguised as honesty.
It’s always tempting to go along with it when you agree with the trashing, and I’m all for a reflective/honest tone, but all of this “you know, you guys are right, it sucked and I’m sorry!” bullshit tends to be just that… bullshit. A new movement of the PR cycle, nothing more than that. Jeff, if you think Shia was being particularly “honest” and straight-shooting just for saying something you agree with, you’re playing right into it.
And if you’ll allow me some self-indulgent self-promotion, I just wrote an essay about this phenomenon:
http://bit.ly/j4Ftvm
Oh, and yes, the first third-to-half of Crystal Skull is excellent.
I liked LaBeef’s introduction in Crystal Skull- the homage to Brando- nicely done. I also enjoyed the diner scene where the fight with the greasers breaks out, and the subsequent chase around the school campus- it’s classic Indy. Overall though, the movie is weaker than the original 3, including the overrated “Last Crusade”. I think he is talented, but hasn’t had much of a chance to do anything but yell “OPTIMUSSSS!!!!” for a few years now, which can make even great thespians look stupid. I have not seen Wall Street, so I can’t comment on that…
Since when does it take balls to place yourself on the side of public opinion? Are you kidding? He read the scripts, he accepted the roles. To come out after the fact and take sides with the masses at the expense of coworkers is chickenshit populist point scoring w/ people like you.
I guess they’re Even Stevens now.
Isn’t any form of criticism or acknowledgement of the fact that the ball was dropped a healthy thing, regardless of timeliness or whether or not it adheres to the public consensus? You’re all whining about how LaBeouf is pandering to the masses, meanwhile missing the bigger picture. Despite whatever intentions you assume he had for saying it, the fact that he did indicates, as Jeff said, a refreshing level of honesty.
Would you have the same contempt for Ewan McGregor or Natalie Portman if they came out today and trashed the Star Wars prequels?
I might, Zach, because these comments are rarely based on analysis/actual criticism… “yeah, that sucked” is only healthy if you’re so desperate for the filmmaker to agree with you. Who cares if they validate you or not?
And actually, I’m pretty sure McGregor HAS given slightly more measured/nuanced/ambivalent impressions of how the Star Wars prequels turned out.. he just didn’t get a lot of press because it wasn’t said in a flashy, yeah-I’m-finally-admitting-what-everyone-was-thinking way. For what it’s worth, I don’t even particularly agree with McGregor’s take on the prequels; I like them a lot and his performances are a major reason why.
Zach: how exactly is this a case of a “refreshing level of honesty”? He’s only saying it because it’s now the majority opinion. Or maybe he’s not. We have absolutely nothing else to go on, except for the fact that for a long, long time he talked about how great the project was, from the script, to the production, to the final product.
What would be “a refreshing level of honesty” would be for him to say one of the following:
- “Yeah, the script was terrible, but they offered me a ton of money to do it and I couldn’t turn it down.”
- “I always knew it was bad, but I only talked about how great the movie was because I was contractually obligated to do so.”
- “I got paid a sliver of gross points, so I promoted the hell out of it nad talked it up because it meant more money in my pocket if I could get more people to see it.”
- “The script was great, but no one brought their ‘A’ game and it showed.”
Instead, he might as well be saying “Tell me what to think! If you liked the movie, then yeah, it was great. If you didn’t, then yeah, it was horrible. But I just want to be popular, so whatever you decide is good with me.” How the hell is that honesty?
Sure. Just like I had contempt for the producers that singled out McGregor to shoulder the failure of The Island. When you’re part of a such a large collaboration, you should only go public with your own shortcomings.
I guess the question is where you think the power lies: Is it better for Shia to kiss the asses of disappointed fanboys after the fact OR to continue to play nice with the likes of Harrison Ford and Steven Spielberg?
There’s no shame in hindsight. I doubt anyone involved set out to make a weak movie or thought the script was terrible and there’s no one on this board or elsewhere who hasn’t accomplished something they thought was great only to later go, “Hmmm…what was I thinking?”
So, yes, it takes more balls to say, “I was wrong” than to do a Harrison Fordesque “We don’t talk shit about our shitty movies even if they’re shitty.” That’s my point. I thought after 8 years of Bush we agreed it’s okay to say you screwed up instead of continuing to insist you’re right no matter how the facts pile up to the contrary.
Oh, and Crystal Skull wasn’t terrible but it IS clearly the weakest of the four. Temple of Doom is overrated by people who forgive a lot because it’s “dark” and Crusade is underrated by those who think it’s too silly. That’s the straight dope.
As noted above, it’s not the criticism, it’s the timing.
Why should anyone trust the “refreshing honesty” of someone who raves while they’re getting paid, and then bitches after the check runs out?
Shia was a whore, and *now* he complains about how lousy the sex was?
Wells wrote this because he hates Ford and Spielberg, and needs ad money from hits.
You know, like Shia needed money, too.
Strange that LaBeouf would speak out against KOTCS. I know it has faults, but it is probably the best thing he has been involved in up to this point.
LaBeouf very clearly blamed himself for KOTSC, not his colleagues. Read his comments again. Speaks openly about how he feels he failed as an actor and didn’t perform convincingly in the action scenes, and says he “dropped the ball”. Don’t know why there’s this perception that he trashed his co-workers and didn’t accept any responsibility.
Mark wrote:
Sure. Just like I had contempt for the producers that singled out McGregor to shoulder the failure of The Island. When you’re part of a such a large collaboration, you should only go public with your own shortcomings.
From what I remember of the post-ISLAND fallout, I thought it was Laurie Parkes (co-producer) blaming Scarlett Johansson for not being a big enough star at the time.
I’ll admit, rather shamefully, that when I first saw Crystal Skull, I thought it was fantastic. After a few weeks of deliberation and a second viewing, that opinion lessened considerably. There is always a period of gestation for a film’s initial impression to settle into a fully-formed opinion. If you actually read LaBeouf’s comments, they don’t seem at all like an attempt at winning back credibility with fans, but rather a rational, after-the-fact interpretation of why the film was received the way it was. All this talk about motives is simply conjecture.
“Shia was a whore, and *now* he complains about how lousy the sex was?”
Very funny and very apt.
I agree with pretty much every slam of LeBeouf above. He is yet the latest “big new thing” that the Hollywood establishment is trying to cram down our throats and we keep spitting up (see also Jessica Alba).
Ford is entirely right in calling him on the carpet for not understanding his place in the machine. When you are making movies like the TRANNIE franchise and EAGLE EYE, you had better wise up to the fact that it’s more business than art. Explicit in your contract is an obligation to promote the film.
This is a movie that made $317M domestically and $786M worldwide – it has fans and they don’t deserve to have one of the film’s star tell them they are assholes for liking it. If you want to be an artist, go make BATTLE OF SHAKER HEIGHTS – PART II.
Eloi, he said two things that I’m sure bugged Ford. One that Ford also disliked the movie, and two, “I love Steven, but when you drop the ball you drop the ball.”
The popular criticisms didn’t much involve Shia’s failings. He didn’t put Indy in the fridge. Movies are so subjective anyway; not sure that actors really need to take a stand. And if they do, it shouldn’t be against their work. Silence on those works usually speaks in volume and is sufficient.
Somebody correct me if I’m wrong, here, but wasn’t Karen Allen unofficially blackballed in the industry for a few years after she made some disparaging remarks about the adolescent nature of Lucas and Spielberg’s storytelling in RAIDERS?
Perhaps calling LeBeouf a “fucking idiot” was just Ford remembering what happens to actors who think being honest about uninspired scripts and perfunctory direction is something they’ve earned after the same writers and directors have burdened them with the biggest hit of their careers. There is, after all, a reason why Karen Allen looks so happy and relieved to be in CRYSTAL SKULL.
And while we’re on the subject (and just because I’m feeling like a masochist), here is how the Indiana Jones films should be rated in overall quality.
1. RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK. A classic. Perfection.
2. TEMPLE OF DOOM. Brutal, dark, violent, disturbing, annoying. Incredible color and energy in the service of child abuse and human sacrifice. A runaway mine car running off a cliff at full speed. The first time I stumbled out of it, I felt like I had been mugged in an alley. But goddamn it, I felt like I had seen…something!
3. CRYSTAL SKULL. Pedestrian, workmanlike, looks like it was lit with an arclight. Talent-wise, probably the best cast assembled for one of these films, all to little effect. Visual effects hit-and-miss throughout. Would like to forget the “monkey boy” gags.
4. LAST CRUSADE. Boring, lazy, stupid, ugly. A pale retread of RAIDERS that turns beloved supporting characters like Marcus and Sallah into buffoons. Would have us believe that every single incident that shaped Indy’s character occurred in one very eventful afternoon. Contains the single most boring chase scene (a horse, a WW1-era tank and a canyon – yay!), the single worst leading lady (“Doody” – giggle) and the worst visual effects in the entire series. Finale takes place in what appears to be a Moroccan restaurant with a cast member from Medieval Times as your waiter.
Let the hate begin (or the deafening silence).
Crystal Skull is FINE. Calling it an “abomination” is a severe overreaction. It’s maybe a notch below the second two films (I happen to think Temple of Doom is much better than it’s given credit for – some of the best stunt work of the series), but I think it fits in just fine with the rest of the films.
The thing I rarely hear about is that NOBODY WANTED TO MAKE IT IN THE FIRST PLACE. Internet gossip and rumors essentially willed it into existence when the series was capped off just fine with the third film. So a bunch of carping fanboys got their wish for a fourth film, then summarily thrashed it because it didn’t live up to their expectation of what they remembered – through rose-colored glasses, I might add – an Indy film to be.
Me, I never wanted a fourth film in the series, never asked for it, and so what I got, from my perspective was perfectly adequate – a pleasant surprise, even. It didn’t shit on the franchise, didn’t set the world on fire. It was just another adventure with a character I happened to love when I was a kid. Really not seeing what the big deal is.
Shia’s comments these past couple of weeks have definitely been douchey. Aside from the relationship stuff, he definitely says what people want to hear a bit.
KOTCS was great. Best Indy sequel. I’ll definitely take it over the retread that was Crusade, or the hour of boring slapstick in Temple before it gets good. That said, all 3 are very good to great movies but pale in comparison to Raiders.
MarkVH has the healthy attitude i/r/t Crystal Skull. It is what it is. The other three movies are still there. You could almost consider it a fan-service non-canon what-if movie, if you wanted to. The holy trilogy remains untouched, and then there’s this addendum.
But please, no Indy 5.
There is, after all, a reason why Karen Allen looks so happy and relieved to be in CRYSTAL SKULL.
And that reason would be Botox and medication.
As for anyone who puts Last Crusade behind Crystal Skull… how do you all not fall down more?
Last Crusade was fun, still is fun, and still entertains me. I can rewatch it, Doom, and the perfect Raiders any time they come on TV.
I have no interest in ever revisiting Skull.
I don’t think much of LaBeef as an actor, but I admire not only his candor, but incredible ability to pick up hot chicks. Carey Mulligan especially, holy fuck.
Put yourself in the kid’s shoes. He’s 20 something and he gets to be in these huge projects Indy-Transformers, etc. Then they come out and they are awful. He has friends, although apparently none that are screenwriters, what do you think they say?
He’s hitched his wagon to some A level directoral talent and he’s been let down by scripts. I go back to the trailer for Wall Street 2, they were trying to sell that thing with a trailer showing a motorcycle chase, are you kidding me?Shia is also a drinker and that tends to make one more blunt. It’s a true raw deal, you get to work with Spielberg but your character’s name is Mutt and in your big scene you swing through the jungle on vines like a monkey, Oy Vey.
Am I the only one who thinks he’s a genuinely decent actor? He was very good in Recognizing Your Saints, and I thought he was an excellent leading man in Wall Street 2. He was fine in Indy, and carried the Caruso movies with genuine charisma.
I can’t remember where I read it, but some unconfirmed early report from Wettest County suggested he is excellent in it. I think he’ll surprise a lot of people. Bow to the Beef.
” how do you all not fall down more?”
The campus car chase alone is more exciting than Crusade.
Wrecktem: You think Shia was going to get fired over that? Of course not, because they’re still under the false impression that he’s a major draw, even though Wall Street 2 bombed and Wettest Country will probably be the beginning of the end of his career.
Floyd: Yeah, the kid *and* the girl are irritating in Doom, but at least the story was a little more consistent than the mess which was Skull.
Ray: I blame it all on Dicaprio being a success. Then everyone tried to make similar emo twats into stars.
As for him boning Fox, he sounds like he’s just exsploiting her perceived image as a slut, but she doesn’t seem so easy to me. If she were, then you’d be seeing her paired with every major Hollywood player in town. Of course, she could also be pitching for the other team…
Mark: Meet Joe Black sucking had nothing to do with Pitt, though. I mean, it was a bloated remake of a simpler concept, and Pitt got caught in the middle of it. And I’m sure he totally enjoyed people only watching it at all because the Phantom Menace trailer was in front of it.
Zach: “Would you have the same contempt for Ewan McGregor or Natalie Portman if they came out today and trashed the Star Wars prequels?”
Well, they *needed* the money, and were probably banking on George’s legacy along with every other movie-goer. But by Indie 4, you should’ve known Lucas’s “vision” would’ve sucked, especially when he axed Darabont for that Mission Impossible hack.
DavidF: “I thought after 8 years of Bush we agreed it’s okay to say you screwed up instead of continuing to insist you’re right no matter how the facts pile up to the contrary.”
Yeah, but no one died watching a sell-out Lucas movie.
And the only reason people defend Skull is ‘cus it’s slightly better than the Star Wars prequels.
I wish that Red guy or whatever on Youtube would go after it next, though.
DTG: Alba was never big, though. Just over-exposed.
MarkVH: Actually, they’d been wanting to make it for years, but George was busy trying to bring back Star Wars.
The first 20 minutes of Crystal Skull were exactly what I had hoped the 19 year wait would deliver. It nailed the tone fans were looking for. And then, after the action scene in the university, the whole movie seemed a jumble of over-exposition and watered down action.
I remember Harrison Ford appearing on Leno like three weeks before the release with this grim attitude. Not his typical grumpy, but GRIM. He clearly had seen it. Picking up, Leno asked, “What? Does the movie suck?” Ford laughed nervously.
HUGE fan. Shia rules. Tells it like it is and gives great interviews. Seems like an awesome dude. He’s like Charlie Sheen from back in the ’80s and early ’90s, when the Masheen would just lay it all out there in those wild Movieline interviews, no holds barred.
I think he’s the real deal.
Jesse is totally right …. The initial comment wasn’t, “Indy 4 was terrible” it was “Indy 4 was terrible, but Wall Street 2 is great.” Now he’s talking about TF3 and saying, “Yeah, the first two were terrible, and Indy 4 was terrible, and Wall Street 2 was terrible, but this one is really good.”
I mean, yes, he’s right that those movies were terrible, but coming out after the fact when everybody knows they’re terrible, and using that as a selling point for the new thing, it does seem kind of douchey.
I think Indy 4 works fine if you think of it as a Jonny Quest movie. It has nothing to do with the first three movies, and it’s not really fair to compare them
Bobby, he never bashed the first Transformers.
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