Stone Pullout Poop

I was told earlier today why Oliver Stone and Showtime decided to cancel screenings of the first three episodes of Stone’s Untold History of the United States at the 2011 New York Film Festival.

It wasn’t because of “scheduling conflicts,” as the announcement read. It’s because Stone, immersed in the cutting of Savages, an action drama about drug dealing, is way behind on preparing all ten episodes of the series. I’m told it may not air for quite a while, perhaps as late as September 2012 (or even later). So Stone and Showtime figured there was no promotional benefit in showing the first three episodes now if the series won’t air for another year or so.

The three episodes in question are complete and were shown to NY Film Festival bigwigs prior to booking the slot and making the initial announcement.

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11 thoughts on “Stone Pullout Poop”

  1. I really hope Stone gets his groove back with SAVAGES — He has Del Toro bringing the intensity and a release date that won’t rush him to go too sloppy-cutty. What he needs is an R-rating so the material doesn’t feel neutered.

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  2. I’m with everything Bobby Cooper just said. I loved Stone through “Nixon,” but the last few films have been weak, like a Xerox of a Xerox of real Stone material… Fingers crossed.

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  3. Well that really sucks. Releasing it in the Fall of 2012 doesn’t sound likely, since Savages is already set for next September, and Stone will be busy promoting it here and abroad. Also, it makes for an awkward time to release it in the climate of the last stretch of the Presidential election year, which will leave it liable to get lost in the shuffle both in promotion and viewership. Holding it off until 2013 sounds more realistic.

    But I’m at a loss at how nonchalantly Stone seems to be willing to take his time. How could he be so far behind at this point? It was first announced back in 2009 with a projected date for release in 2010, and then rescheduled for sometime this year, and then promised by early next Spring at the latest.

    Did you get confirmation on what the working title was?

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  4. Bobby, fortunately I don’t think it’s possible to tone Savages the book down to a PG-13. Here’s hoping the hard boiled characters and violent content will give him some of his edge back.

    I’ll never understand what he was thinking with Wall Street 2. Let’s bring back Gordon Gekko now that there’s a lot of interest in real villains on Wall Street, but let’s keep Gekko offscreen most of the time, and let’s keep the real life events in the background while we focus on melodrama between Shia LaBeouf and Carey Mulligan. It makes about as much sense as if he approached JFK with the attitude: let’s focus of Garrison’s family life and keep discussion of the case to a minimum few expository scenes, and don’t use any real names.

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  5. It was first announced back in 2009 with a projected date for release in 2010, and then rescheduled for sometime this year,and let’s keep the real life events in the background while we focus on melodrama between Shia LaBeouf and Carey Mulligan.

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  6. Reverent and free gets it. WALL STREET 2 was a GIMME, the awesome story WROTE ITSELF.

    Then Stone took that awesome story and MADE IT SHITE.

    He’s dead to me. DEAD.

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  7. @Ray — It was my understanding that Allan Loeb had a draft Fox was going to move on with or without Stone and it was Douglas who lobbied to get Stone on the project. The catch was that because of this fixed start date Fox was so worked up over, Stone’s input into revisions would be extremely limited. I think it was a horrendous situation that Stone just didn’t have the clout/time to fight and, ultimately, went along with to stay working.

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