Can we add Jeremy Renner to the list of “Actors With Boring Hair”? Is he gonna rock that 1999 push-forward for ANOTHER decade? I just never understand why any man who HAS HAIR would want to keep it at that boring length and not LEGEND CRUISE/SAWYER-FROM-LOST/Snake Plissken that shit.
This looks so generic. ALL the Marvel movies, save the two LG Punisher movies, are generic… bland colors, bland plots, bland storytelling, nothing too crazy or violent or kinky, lest it upset the MovieBobs of this world; At least the bad DC movies (Hex, Lantern) are bad in an insane/weird way, not that boring-flesh-tones Spider-Man way where there is NO VISUAL SHEEN or grain or filters or sickly colors or metal; Bland, bland, bland….
And Johansson looks dumpy in this. Not sure how they managed that.
If I’m 100% honest, THE HULK is the ONLY ONE of these superheroes I’d EVER heard of before 4 or 5 years ago. I grew up in the 80s, never read a comic book, never SAW a comic book, never met a SINGLE KID who read comics… Most kids only cared about the Pittsburgh Steelers– western PA isn’t a big movies or comics kinda town anyway. But Iron Man? NEVER heard of it. Black Arrow or whatever ScarJo is? I still don’t know who she is. THOR? They made that up in 2008, NOBODY had ever heard of that as a comic book. Renner, I still don’t know who he is, wasn’t he a cameo shooting a bow-and-arrow in Thor? That’s some superhero we’re supposed to know?
Talk about a fucking B-team of bargain-basement nobodies as superheroes go.
How did Whedon get paired up with Seamus McGarvey?
Aside from Thor, I agree that DC has more visual umph in their movies. This was my biggest fear and it’s coming true: this looks like Fox level tv bullshit. You have 5 larger than life superheroes, yet you make it look like the flattest generic shit ever.
I’m looking at this and cannot help but feel that Marvel are really bad at casting.
Jesus Christ, this looks awful. I don’t get the cult of Josh Whedon. The guy’s not a director, that’s for sure. There’s not a single frame of visual panache in that whole trailer. The thing looks a few steps above a bad Cannon Pictures production from the 80s. And, c’mon, how many times have we seen the chain reaction of exploding cars coming at the camera – that got old after Independence Day. Fucking Marvel. They won’t go with any edgy, maverick type directors that actually have visual chops. Because those guys are too hard to control and speak a different language to the ball crushing Marvel execs. I could name five directors that would have killed this and they wouldn’t have cost Marvel a dime more.
Not loving the cinematography thus far (it’s overlit in that way that only mid-80s Verhoeven/DeBont collaborations ever really made “work”) but hoping that the fact that most of the big action stuff shown here is clearly full of room for CGI stuff to be added (plus the massive amounts of mo-cap actors present for the fight scenes) means we just aren’t seeing anything near the big picture. As it stands, it’s not NEARLY as “pretty” as Cap and Thor were, and that’s kind of an iffy sign – I’m an unabashed easy lay for Marvel’s “Look! It’s ::insert-obscure-character/item-you-NEVER-dreamed-you’d-see-in-a-movie::” schtick, but the final movie DOES still have to work narratively.
On the OTHER hand… not a single thing in there so far that looks/sounds as terrible as Bane or Catwoman’s “Meow! I am the 99%!” speech (or ANYTHING from the Spider-Man teaser for that matter) so there’s that. This thing will live and die by the character-interactions and how well it effectively squishes the five different prior storylines into a single thing; and at least that first part already seems to be working.
lol…it doesn’t look that bad. I agree with most of the criticisms but I’m looking at this as a teaser and hoping the final outcome is surprisingly good. Besides, how many big budget action movies with fantastic cinematography end up being disappointments with horrible writing? If this movie looks like a glorified television show but has a great story I don’t know if I’d be too disappointed.
“On the OTHER hand… not a single thing in there so far that looks/sounds as terrible as Bane or Catwoman’s “Meow! I am the 99%!” speech”
MovieBob: What? I think you’re reaching here. That speech sounded absolutely appropriate within the context of the trailer. I know you’ve decided in advance that TDKR is going to be a big disappointment while the Avengers will rule, but I think you’re being unfair here.
I think the only problem with the Catwoman speech is that it’s similar to the Pfieffer/Keaton scene in returns. Is that a keystone scene in one of the books?
They picked Whedon just because he has that cult and get the Comic-Con folks all lathered up. Angel, Buffy, and Firefly all have their moments–on a TV-scale.
Buffy has aged terribly. It makes Dawson’s Creek look vital and cutting-edge by comparison. It also seems to have developed this reputation as a near-flawless piece of television, but didn’t even the fans agree that after about season three it all went shit? As soon as Marc Blucas showed up, basically.
Blucas was a disaster but wasn’t Once More With Feeling post season 3? That was the best episode of the entire series.
Crap. Saying that this is better that The Dark Knight Rises trailer is just a crap statement. TDKR showed a preview of a movie with things you’ve not seen before, and that there is a story there. The Avengers showed us everything that happened the past few summers in movies, and that banter IS the story. And as someone said above, it’s lit so it does look FOX-TV grade, or worse WB.
All that said, Avengers WILL make bank. Its release is early enough in a perfect spot at the beggining of summer that people will let marketing push them into a theater in a NASCAR-like fugue state.
Is the movie actually flat or is this trailer just fucking with me?
I think I wanna see the whole movie in Russian now.
It’ll make tons of coin, but I kinda think it will be the cinematic equivalent of The Stones’ Rock n’ Roll Circus. Cool in concept, surprisingly boring to watch.
And why do I keep mistaking Brooks for Bono in those Drive banner ads on the left?
Look, its a foregone conclusion that TDKR is going to be good/great, but the trailer simply underwhelms. It’s big “money shot” looks and feels like a deleted scene from “The Core,” the plot its selling is basically a retread of “Begins” and if it was supposed to “sell” me on Bane (a terrible character who does not seem to have been improved) then it fails right there. TDK’s trailer had me PSYCHED based on that one shot of Joker stomping down the street with the machine-gun; THIS one expects me to be awestruck at the reveal of some wheezy bald dipshit in a parka and Nolan’s ugly-ass version of The Batmobile flying? No sale.
TDKR’s trailer is selling a “serious” action/drama thing, but it just looks like a kinda average one. Avengers is selling “just” a more kid-oriented “yay! Robots n aliens n monsters n fighting n magic!” kinda thing… but what looks to maybe be a really grand version thereof. That’s all. I doubt either of them will measure up to “First Class” on a screenplay level or “Captain America” on a spectacle level, in any event.
Lex, I’d love to hear some examples of what you mean by “sheen,” and/or why it’s important to you.
He means “Charlie.”
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