“Guys? Bringin’ The Party to You”

This looks half-tolerable…maybe. But I’m still intimidated by the thought of watching anything with the handprint of the dreaded Joss Whedon. I also have a problem with any film in which Samuel L. Jackson uses the word “hopelessly.” I’m also concerned that the film has been converted from 2D to 3D.

The architecture of any proverbial city always suffers when a superhero dukes it ou with an adversary. The hands-down winner of the Urban Destruction prize so far is Michel Bay‘s Transformers 3. Let’s see where The Avengers takes us in this regard. Get that old 9/11 ash-and-ruin vibe going again.

  • Dan Revill

    “Half tolerable”? Isn’t that what you say almost every time a new superhero trailer comes out?

  • JLC

    I know I’m not supposed to be excited about this. Screw it. This is the film my six-year-old self dreamed of while playing with his Mego figures in the living room.

    Yeah, it’s a toy commercial and super hero movies are killing cinema, etc. etc. But it’s a big-budget, star-studded freakin’ Avengers film. Sometimes you just have to let your guard down and go with it.

  • Redbeard

    So, are you deliberately misspelling Whedon’s name every time, or are you just that damned lazy??

  • Eloi Wrath

    Vast improvement on all the other trailers. Perhaps they noticed the somewhat tepid response and finally put something exciting together. Looks a lot more epic than the last few, too. Well done, marketing team. I am finally interested.

  • bluefugue

    Your unmotivated loathing for Whedon is getting really tiresome. He’s a huge talent in TV and was instrumental in the current ascent of the season-long arc in mainstream hourlong dramas, to say nothing of the tremendous wit and humanity that he brought to Buffy.

    So he’s not a great feature director. That doesn’t make him ‘dreaded.’

  • Markj74

    Whedon is about 1000 times more talented than JJ Abrams and his hack writing team Kurtzman/Orci. I’m guessing Jeff has never seen Firefly or Serenity…

  • Ponderer

    Indeed, bluefugue. His Buffy episode “The Body” was more honest and meaningful than virtually any feature film from that year.

  • Eloi Wrath

    Oh God, here’s Markj again with his bizarre vendetta against Abrams.

  • DavidF

    Everyone’s going bonkers for nothing. Jeff saying this trailer looks “half-tolerable” is practically a rave.

    It’s the first time I’ve seen footage that really made me think it could work. Still, I think Bay’s trashing of Chicago will be the gold standard for a while.

  • Markj74

    @Eloi: Serenity had a much better screenplay than the Kurtzman/Orci Star Trek screenplay. Disagree?

  • Mgmax, le Corbeau

    Hmm, I’m apparently the only one who thinks “Giant robot centipedes, let’s fight them with… hammers and arrows?”

  • Ponderer

    Ordinary arrows, well, no. Mystical hammers that can pulverize skyscrapers? Maybe a slightly better shot. 😛

  • JLC

    “Giant robot centipedes, let’s fight them with… hammers and arrows?”

    Of course! Leave that realistic shit to Christopher Nolan. In fact, I’ll be sorely disappointed if it’s not one of Hawkeye’s arrows that brings the beastie down.

  • Matt S

    Why is Scarlett part of this team? The rest have superpowers, and she has a handgun.

  • Redbeard

    They’re not just handguns. Note that as she reloads at the end of the clip, her gauntlets light up. Her weapons are more akin to Iron Mans pulse rays (and Id bet are built by him in the movie, too).

    Beyond that, she’s the spy on the team – doing the sneaky stuff while the big guys duke it out.

  • Eloi Wrath

    “@Eloi: Serenity had a much better screenplay than the Kurtzman/Orci Star Trek screenplay. Disagree?”

    I can’t even remember Serenity, which says it all really. It’s just funny that you bring your hatred of Abrams into every single discussion. Surely anyone can see that M:I-3, Star Trek and Super 8 are a cut above most recent blockbusters.

  • bents75

    I thought they were just handguns too.

    But in any case, I was going to say she’s also on the team because she has skills. It’s the same reason Batman is on the Justice League even though he doesn’t have any powers.

    She brings to the table the only two great things that Batman is missing… guns and tits.

  • Gabe@ThePlaylist

    The dreaded Joss Whedon, who only makes fanboy service movies and/or television shows for bottom-feeders, none of which I’m actually familiar with! Also, How do you spell his name? What does he look like? What did he do again? Nonetheless, DREADED!

    Please, Jeff, try to sound informed when you’re slinging shit.

  • Jesse Crall

    Yeah, I was wondering what Renner was doing with a bow and arrow. Hunting Mastadons?

    I’ve been on a superhero break since Iron Man 2. Burned out. Individually, they’re usually pretty cool but I dunno, they all seemed too similar in tone/style. It was like listening 10 different great musicians covering “Yesterday.” The Avengers looks fun, 10 bucks down, two hours entertained, fine. I suppose I’m sort of in between Jeff and the fanboys on this one.

  • Matt S

    Why hasn’t the military built like a thousand of those Iron Man suits? It would make fighting Aliens so much easier.

    The biggest problem with Marvel movies is besides Magneto, their villians are lame

  • Hank94

    Calm down everybody. Jeff knows nothing about Joss Whedon or his career. The intentional misspelling of Whedon’s name is juvenile, not funny, and pathetic.

    Serenity was excellent. Firefly was excellent. Buffy was excellent. He’s a terrific writer and, at least, a serviceable director.

  • Mgmax, le Corbeau

    I suppose it would just be annoying if I complained about the aerodynamics of giant robot centipedes, too, but everything in these movies is so magical that they have no thrill for me. Even if Wheeedonnn is the best possible choice for a Team of Magic People With Nothing in Common movie.

  • Browncoat

    Hiyo! Longtime first time. Also happen to be a large Whedon fan. I’m constantly entertained by his works. Heck, I can even find positives in the Buffy movie, but maybe that’s just because I heart Rutger. But I am curious, Jeff, if you wouldn’t mind elaborating on your Joss hate. I respect much of what you have to say, and I am curious as to your, well, spirited aversion.

  • Rashad

    Serenity was ass. It’s laughable someone thinks this guy is better than Abrams

  • Errol Flynnn

    The centipede robot isn’t even the main villain. Loki, Thanos, an alien race, and the infinity gauntlet (which ties to Red Skull) are the major villainous plot points…

  • Errol Flynnn

    And Whedon is better than Abrams. Super 8 was shit and his ability to ruin everything with lens flares drives me batshit insane.

  • Raising_Kaned

    Absolutely nothing wrong with Abrams’ filmography thus far. Nuttin’.

    Looking forward to this, though. Between this, TDKR, Spider-man reboot, and the incredibly underrated Chronicle (has Jeff not seen this yet?) — I think we’re looking at 2012 as the last great year for comic book adaptations. At least I hope so ‘cuz I’m starting to get burnt out on them.

    I’m officially declaring a personal one-year moratorium on them after this summer — no trailers, no films, no video games based on Marvel properties for 12 months.

  • Hank94

    “Serenity was ass. It’s laughable someone thinks this guy is better than Abrams”

    Says the guy that loves Michael Bay’s shitty movies.

    Abrams is great. Whedon is great.

  • Ray

    “So, are you deliberately misspelling Whedon’s name every time, or are you just that damned lazy??”

    Whoa whoa whoa- can’t it be BOTH?

    For the record Chronicle is the movie that Jeff is least likely to see that an **honest** Jeff would enjoy the most. EXCELLENT sleeper movie.

  • BoulderKid

    Much better trailer.

    One thing worries me though. The writing is going to have to be really good for this to not come off as just a two-hour toy commercial. At least when a superhero movie concentrates on a sole character, there are pathos injected through the origin story and the hero struggling with his new responsibility. Just by the sheer volume of characters here this could quickly become “The Expendables” by way of “Transformers.” Is there really going to be anytime to do anything other than blow shit up?

    Kind of wierd that Jeremy Renner is in this too. Already taking over Bourne and Mission Impossible and now he’s part of this crew. Is the guy every going to make a real movie again?

  • Kakihara

    Markj: “I’m guessing Jeff has never seen Firefly or Serenity…”

    I did when they were called Outlaw Star and Cowboy Bebop. 🙂

  • Gridlock

    I quite liked Batman’s tits in THAT ONE WITH CLOONEY AND ARNIE

  • Fortunesfool

    “Surely anyone can see that M:I-3, Star Trek and Super 8 are a cut above most recent blockbusters.”

    Hmmm. Cut and paste shaky cam action scenes. Banal dialogue. Lots of sound and fury signifying nothing.

    All of those movies were indistinguishable from the majority of blockbuster dreck. Don’t believe the JJ Hype. He’s a self promoting hack.

    Whedon on the other hand understands how to make a movie and tell a great narrative with engaging characters.

  • RoyBatty Returns

    Jeff today: “…handprint of the dreaded Joss Whedon.”

    Jeff 3 months from now: “I don’t understand it, why is everyone else going to the early screening for (FILL IN FANTASY-TYPE FILM) and I’m on the ‘no-fly list.’????”

    FWIW – Whedon? WAAAAAY more writing talent than what goes on here. Just saying….

  • Rashad

    Give me a break Fortune. Star Trek was what Serenity tried to be, and failed miserably at.

  • Floyd Thursby

    Forget Firefly. Has Wells seen Doctor Who, Alias, Fringe, Dexter, Justified, etc.?

  • Dr. Kyoj√¥ Niide

    “Star Trek was what Serenity tried to be, and failed miserably at.”

    This notion does not make any sense to me whatsoever. Although attempting to make sense out of one of Rashad’s musings is probably a fool’s errand.

    I’m not a massive fan of sci-fi, and also not terribly au fait with Whedon’s work in general, but I thoroughly enjoyed ‘Firefly’ and ‘Serenity’.

  • AtticusRex

    Sweet Jesus Peeps… Isn’t it possible to enjoy Whedon and or Abram’s work at the same time?

    Personally I have enjoyed most of Abram’s Bad Robot output, though I wasn’t caught up in the Buffyverse I did enjoy Firefly/Serenity.

    I’ll give the Avengers a chance because at least Whedon understands this type of material and I believe will do his best to turn out the best possible picture.

    I also want to shout out to Floyd Thursby: Thank You for mentioning Justified. That show for reasons beyond me doesn’t get the Justified print/coverage and support it so vastly deserves. IMHO no better show right now on Broadcast or Basic Cable than Justified in terms of acting and writing.

  • Jack Razor

    Frankly it looks like a Transformers movie. That’s the problem with doing these big action movies right now: everything as far as “End of the World threat in a big city” has been done. Only way it could have been different would have been if Earth would have been attacked by giants and trolls and elves, you mythological creatures.

  • Dr. Kyojô Niide

    “Star Trek was what Serenity tried to be, and failed miserably at.”

    This notion does not make any sense to me whatsoever. Although attempting to make sense out of one of Rashad’s musings is probably a fool’s errand.

    I’m not a massive fan of sci-fi, and also not terribly au fait with Whedon’s work in general, but I thoroughly enjoyed ‘Firefly’ and ‘Serenity’.

  • Floyd Thursby

    Thanks, Atticus. Nearly every episode perfect. Best acting maybe in the history of American television.

  • Rev. Slappy

    I’ll jump in with Atticus and Floyd. Graham Yost and his team have done a much better job of adapting Elmore Leonard’s work than the movies consistently have. Justified is excellent and enormously entertaining.

  • AtticusRex

    @Floyd Thursby & Rev. Slappy: I’m glad to se I’m not alone. As for Leonard Film Adaptations… While Get Shorty & Out of Sight were spot on… Hollywood has had better luck with his westerns, Hombre, Valdez and 3:10 to Yuma (The original one).

    I never understand when you option a property why you don’t use what makes that property worthwhile!

    As for best acting in American TV, while I believe Justified to be way more entertaining… I feel overall the best written and acted show on American TV has been the Wire… though I would Rate Justified right up there.

    Justified feels so right. No Dumbing Down to the Masses. And they (Jost) understand Leonard’s characters and dialog.

  • Rev. Slappy

    Atticus, agree about Scott Frank’s work with both Out of Sight and Get Shorty scripts, though I’m a big fan of Sonnenfeld and that glib sensibility he brings to everything. I may be wrong about this (it’s been a while) but I remember reading an interview with Frank where he spoke of literally transposing scenes and dialogue from Leonard’s text. About the most actively angry I’ve been in a movie theater was watching that horrible version of Be Cool. I know writers often feel like they need to bring something to the work, but it’s insulting for the hack that adapted Be Cool to be inventing characters Leonard didn’t need for his novel.

  • MechanicalShark

    Actually, Abrams, while not a major talent, is proven as a better film director on the basis of MI3, Star Trek, and Super 8, as opposed to Serenity. Whedon is a major TV talent, and nobody can dispute that. But a lot of great TV men can’t really hack it in the movie business. Serenity is a decent movie, all things considered, but it’s fairly shaky, oddly plotted, and god, I don’t understand geeks at all, because River is INSUFFERABLE. For all of Abrams’ desire to ape Spielberg, his lens flare addiction, and a tendency to shoot incomplete scripts (although in the case of Star Trek, that was the fault of the WGA strike), he understands cinematic language better than Whedon.

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