Anti-Santorum
I would vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016 (nothing wrong with being 69), but on some level I’d feel more emotionally satisfied if Elizabeth Warren runs. Either way I’d love to see a tough, shrewd, battle-axe woman in the White House. I’m tired of guys and their guy games.
Love Elizabeth Warren to death and looking forward to to voting for her this year. I don’t want to get ahead of things with presidential talk – let’s see how she handles the backroom brawling of the Senate first. But for the most part, I agree with your feelings here.
Have to agree, although I fear it may be a matter of wanting anybody but these right wing jackasses. “Anybody” has not worked out that well so far.
Tough and shrewd, for sure, but “battle-axe”, no way.
Part of Warren’s appeal is that ‘school teacher crush’ aspect of her personality; she delivers her fiercely intellectual arguments with a genuine sweetness that doesn’t, for some reason, undercut her seriousness.
She’s the most awesome woman ever! I visit her fan page (The Huffington Post) every day! And she’s a WOMAN! The only downside is that she’s white. If only she were Inuit, or Native American, or Lesbian American. I like people for what they are, not so much who they are, btw.
Gee, Travis, you wouldn’t happen to be sarcastic by any chance, would you?
Warren and Clinton would both be great, although I imagine the GOP will spend the next four years making up for 2012.
Cautiously hopeful on Warren, but let’s see her get elected to the Senate first. Rodham Clinton is a fucking corporatist-authoritarian nightmare like Obama.
One individual, woman or man, is not going to alter our slide toward doom one bit without radical, wholesale reforms of this corrupt faux-democracy.
Elizabeth Warren would be awesome. But, she speaks truth to power, and I don’t think most Americans can handle the truth.
Hillary is the most extraordinary woman of all times; she’s incredible smart, tough, warm and with more than the experience needed to run this country and the world, she’s the only one ready from day 1.HILLARY 2012!
Warren has a good schtick going with consumer protection, but she’s lousy on foreign policy, and I’m afraid in the end she’s going to be a wolf in populist’s clothing like Obama – I doubt she’ll be able to effect fundamental change or that she even really wants to.
‘but she’s lousy on foreign policy, and I’m afraid in the end she’s going to be a wolf in populist’s clothing like Obama’
It’s against the law to be good on foreign ploicy and a viable candidate…that’s a no-no.
I’d like to find an alternative to Hillary, but Elizabeth Warren is a millionaire who can’t even be honest about being a millionaire. She’s straight from Bullshit City.
MooType – your logic is ghastly. Elizabeth Warren is not sincere about her (liberal) politics because she is wealthy? So was FDR, and he was the most liberal president in history. In fact, while Warren is now wealthy (in part because of her Harvard law professor salary), she came from very modest upbringings. So she is a great representation of the “American Dream” archetype that most Americans revere.
Honestly, every time I see a comment like this — meaning a comment that is so clearly intellectualy dishonest and frankly stupid — I get upset, not because I care about the opinion, but because so many people in America (proudly) act and speak like jackasses. Grow up people, act like adults sometimes. If you take the time to type out an opinion, try and think a little before hand. It is embarassing.
If we’re still around in 2016–and there are serious doubts about that, none of them Mayan-related–then Warren gets all the support I can muster.
This is probably a dead thread now, but I just have to correct ojtoronto: My point isn’t that Warren isn’t sincere about her liberal politics because she is wealthy. My point is that Warren lies about being wealthy. That is a fact, and there’s nothing intellectually dishonest about it. Why does she lie about it? Because she can’t claim to live up to her own billing.
I would vote for Hillary instead of Warren, definitely
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@ojtoronto:
I’m not sure mootype qualifies as an adult for the simple reason that he/she is too gullible to take seriously.
In an interview about proposed insider trading legislation, Warren said:
“You know, I’m with you on this. Either don’t own it or put t into a blind trust, you know, where someone else manages it and you literally can’t see waht’s in there. I realize there are some wealthy individuals–I’m not one of them but some wealthy individuals who have a lot of stock portfolios.But you’re exactly right.”
The right wing blogosphere/echo chamber (just google it) highlighted the ‘there are some wealthy individuals –I’m not one of them’ and paired it up with her financial disclosure forms to pronounce her a liar. It’s pretty obvious to intellectually honest folks that she said she doesn’t have a lot of stock portfolios. This might be untrue, but it sure as shit isn’t lying about her wealth. mootype is well named.
What Jeff is saying is that he doesn’t want to be a man anymore
Spindozer certainly seems to be right about Warren being wrongly accused of lying about her wealth in the example given. It seems pretty clear that she was making a reference to specific stock portfolios. Unfortunately, Spindozer woke up cranky from his nap and didn’t consider that Warren has said other moronic things that make it plain that she’s an old-fashioned crony capitalist.
well then, mootype, won’t be any problem for you to quote and cite a specific example where Warren says she isn’t wealthy, which you say is a “fact”.
Well, then SpinDozer, why don’t you try actually educating yourself and finding hilarious moments like when Warren proclaimed herself to be one of the has-nots, unlike that rich guy Mitt Romney? Ask your Mommy to enter “Google” instead of “Hollywood-Elsewhere.”
I’ll take that as a ‘fail’ and yet another head-up-the-ass lie from the ever stupid mootype. Thanks
No, a lie would be Ann Romney saying “We’re not really all that wealthy.” (Or, for that matter, Sean Hannity saying Mitt started out with “nothing.”)
Spindozer, it’s okay if Mommy is too drunk to get off the couch and help you work the computer-thingy. Just tell us so. We all understand that’s how you came to be born with such a Special Intellect. Anyway, here’s a quote from Elizabeth Warren explaining how she’s Just Plain Folks, while also showing off either her ignorance of (or willingness to lie about) income taxes: “Mitt Romney gets a better deal than any of the rest of us because he manages to earn his income in a way that has been specially protected for rich folks. I think that’s wrong.”
Splunge.
“Splunge.” That’s probably the sound of SpinDozer’s IQ dropping even lower.