A Democratic Islamic Government?
In the wake of today’s announcement that the Muslim Brotherhood‘s Mohamed Morsi has won Egypt’s first competitive presidential election and has, given the opposition to his agenda by the Egyptian military, a limited grip on power, the question is this: given the autocratic tendencies of Muslim leaders in other Middle-Eastern countries, is it in the cards for Morsi and his team to play it straight and fair and operate as guys who really believe in a democratic form of government, or is there something in the Muslim psychology that inevitably submits to Islamic absolutism, Mullah-ism and all the rest of that primitive yahoo jazz?
They will probably play it straight and fair until they get control of the military.
If some outfit calling themselves the Christian Brotherhood tried to take over our government, would there even be a question as to what their intentions were?
The fucking party name includes their religion, OF COURSE that’s how they’re going to govern.
Arab Spring my ass, looks like more of the same horseshit.
While I’m not particularly thrilled about the idea of a Muslim Brotherhood PM in Egypt (however moderate he may be), you might want to be careful how you phrase things, because something like “[I]s there something in the Muslim psychology that inevitably submits to Islamic absolutism, Mullah-ism and all the rest of that primitive yahoo jazz?” sounds a bit too much like a Gingrich-ism.
Gingrich-ism or not, it’s 100% accurate. It is inevitable what will happen there. They won’t be the uber-muslim maniacs but this is truly the beginning of the end of any type of secularism in the Arab world. Once Assad is overthrown, things are going to get very interesting.
I loved visiting Egypt – been there 4 times since I was 10. My grandfather’s Christian second cousin, and his wife, still there. There are still a small smattering of Armenians there, and other ‘western’ nationalities. I worry for them now…
And so it goes.
Well, this just further proves the Republicans and neocons wrong about that part of the world wanting “freedom”. Have fun fucking up Iran next, assholes.
DZ what are you talking about?? This is the freedom they’ve asked for. Free elections = freedom. Taliban style muslims aren’t taking over the country. And if the people don’t like what the party does, they can elect another party next time.
Either way, everything will depend on their parliament, and what role the military plays. The fact that the military plays such a prominent role now, the Muslim Brotherhood will have no choice but to be somewhat moderate.
DZ get a grip – it was a liberal Democratic President Obama and a liberal Democratic Secretary of State Clinton who told Mubarak to just get out – not the neocons and Republicans
arispil: “Taliban style muslims aren’t taking over the country. And if the people don’t like what the party does, they can elect another party next time.”
In theory, for now. At least until we head into Animal Farm territory.
va: ” it was a liberal Democratic President Obama and a liberal Democratic Secretary of State Clinton who told Mubarak to just get out – not the neocons and Republicans”
The neocons took credit for the Iraq war leading to this moment. They were the ones who wanted to destabilize the region, so their puppets would win. The people still overwhelmingly prefer officials with fundy leanings, though.
Someone should explain to DuluozGray that the conservative chancellor of Germany is a member of the Christian Democratic Party and should sit him down and go through the history of the entire global Christian democracy movement. Or would it matter?
Wreck: The Christian Democratic Party doesn’t contain the same type of Christianity as, say, the Vatican, which is a better equivalent for what people are clearly concerned about in Egypt.
He said:
“The fucking party name includes their religion, OF COURSE that’s how they’re going to govern.”
That’s all I was responding to.
The extent of power of the new elected president remains unclear. I think he should follow what he believes is right which is to have a democratic form of government. To gain control of the opposing military is his biggest challenge as the newly head of state.
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As the new president, he needs to do what he think is right for his country and for his people. If he is stating the he believe in a democratic form of government, then he should really try his best to implement that kind of leadership during his entire term.
As a leader you are only looking forward for what could be the best thing for your fellow men. Sometimes we cannot please everyone, but we have to respect what they want to do or what they are thinking about. To be a good leader you must be a good follower. In gaining a good relationship with each other just do what could be the best for all.
It is expected to every leader to lead for the betterment of the people under his government. Sometimes, there are opposition to the propose changes, yet a leader must look at it in a way which will made him decide in accordance to the betterment of the majority.
There is a lot of weight on his shoulders as the first one to win a competitive election. His leadership could set the tone of future presidents to come.