Really?? That’s not recycling, that’s outright HACKITUDE.
Wow, that’s truly damning.
Could say that Sorkin recycles as blatantly as John Hughes did.
Some of those are legitimate points, but there are a few times when it’s just standard phrases that average people say (I point “but you know that”). And a lot of those clips came from the West Wing; it’s completely reasonable to think that a group of people working closely together would pick up and trade small word choices and phrases from each other. Either that, or they’re all The Dude.
Yeah, some of those are outright copies, some are standard phrases, but Sorkin was also reworking in “West Wing” material from “Sports Night,” which few watched at the time and which had had a bumpy road.
One thing the mash-up doesn’t even touch on is the fact that an episode of “Sports Night” and “West Wing” (both really good) share the exact same structure and the exact same dilemma — a character narrates the ep in first person by writing a letter while waiting on something that’s going on longer than it should. In “Sports Night” it’s a tennis match, in “West Wing” is an elderly senator’s filibuster. West Wing’s “The Stackhouse Filibuster” is much, much better than the “Sports Night” episode.
’cause writing a classic episode of TV every week is really easy. Give him a break. Most of us can’t write a snarky talkback without reusing the same lines.
Yeah, a CLASSIC EPISODE OF TV.
I’ve never met anybody who actually liked West Wing, and I had to transcribe a couple eps of Sports Night at a shitty post job once, and it was the hardest motherfucking shit ever. Like you get some action show and you can knock it out in four hours, but BLOWHARD SORKIN with his stupid fucking wordplay, you had to come in and work the fucking weekend just to transcribe all that longwinded hallway walk dialogue.
Might’ve been the weekend I could’ve gotten laid, but instead we all had to work double shifts ’cause asshole Sorkin with his Valley gayvoice can’t just write “MONTAGE” and cut the sound guys, transcribers and subtitlers of the world a fucking break for so much as four seconds without his avalanche of fucking high-toned preaching-to-choir bullshit.
Only Altman movies are as much a NIGHTMARE to type out like fucking Sorkin and his stupid side part.
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@fortunes.fool: ‘Most of us can’t write a snarky talkback without reusing the same lines.’
Amusing that LexKitG should be the first poster after that comment.
But when Tarantino revisits the same themes……
Howard Hawks is famous for repeating lines and situations and stories. “I’m hard to get — all you have to do is ask me” is said by numerous Hawksian woman. “You’re just broke out in monkey bites” is said in more than one Hawks movie. “Are you good enough?” is his key question, repeated over and over again in one form or another. That’s what his movies are ABOUT. And on and on.
I guess some of that is impressively repetitive but I think there’s something far sadder about someone taking the time to splice together every instance of someone saying, “not for nothing” or “you bet.”
I mean – look at all those people saying, “And you know it!” And people think this guy can write?
I’m going to take a few days to produce a book showing every instance of Stephen King writing, “he said” to prove how lame he is. Or, only slightly less absurd, every instance in a John Irving book of someone having weird sex, doing something with a bear, wrestling or attending a private school in New England or going to Vienna. Maybe I’ll include a chapter on his use of ITALICS to prove what a HACK he is.
Sorkin didn’t have anything to do with Bulworth so what’s it doing in there? And why nothing from Moneyball?
It is pretty well edited. I’m not too certain the intent of its creation was to mock or ridicule Sorkin – just to point out some of the key phrases he tends to use on occasion.
Sorkin’s credited as one of 4 “Bulworth” writers.
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