• Ira Parks

    (NAKEDMAN and DULUOZ set up tables on either side of the room. They put down water bottles, pretzels, m&ms. Both put chairs in front of their tables, sit down, then crack their knuckles.)

    “Let’s begin…”

    (D.Z. comes in with a sack lunch. He finds a seat.)

    SCOOTERZ and LAZARUS exit as BALLSWORTH is coming in. They give him a snide look. BALLSWORTH sees what’s going on, leaves. PRAGER walks in, sees what’s going on, turns on his heel, leaves. GLENN KENNY, the same.

    SASHA and TRAVIS meet on the way in.

    “You doing this one?”

    “I guess so, you?”

    “All right, see you after. No hard feelings?”

    (Friendly, unironic handshake.)

    “No, not at all. I’ll buy lunch later.”

    (The room heats up with rhetorical fury.)

    WELLS luxuriates in a bubble bath. For seven minutes.

  • The Thing

    I’m glad that you understood MovieBob’s argument, and eloquently expressed a counter point.

  • FlashDust

    Hmmm, wonder how many times Sasha has to tell Jeff that Holmes’ semiautomatic assault rifle jammed during attack until it will sink and and he will let go of his inane talking point.

  • FlashDust

    Hey Jeff, as Sasha has told you numerous times, his assault rifle jammed during the attack you can let go of that inane talking point already.

  • FlashDust

    Maybe now it will sink in…

  • http://moviebob.blogspot.com THE MovieBob

    Genuinely appreciate the acknowledgment – feels more than a little vindicating, really.

    FWIW, the decision not to get into guns or politics in this is because A.) the series is 90% non-political most of the time and B.) I didn’t want to see everyone skip over the censorship stuff in a rush to stage ANOTHER proxy-fight over the least-likely to budge or change any minds political issue in the spectrum.

  • Jack Razor

    I don’t know….I get the message of the vid and all but even as someone that has loved DKR, i’m beginning to think these bad vibes went a little too close to home. I know the crazies are crazy are crazy and all that. But i’m starting to miss the Spielberg feel-good movies of the 80s.

  • Glenn Kenny

    Well done..

  • http://www.think-im.nl/website-laten-maken/ websitelatenmaken

    Good play mister!

  • James Rocchi

    Almost turned this nonsense off. First, it’s style is clearly jacked/rippedoff from Zero Punctuation’s far superior game reviews. Second of all, like too many people after than recent events, he’s an idiot. We sell these movies and books and comics worldwide, and those nations don’t have these events occur with anything like the frequency, brutality and efficiency, for lack of a better word, than they do here.

    Because right now, our Constitution’s being overseen and interpreted by a group of people who, on a regular basis, split 5-4 along party lines to protect some stranger’s right to buy and stockpile and use lethal power toys for their amusement and other’s profit (and the theoretical right to defend against either the British Army or Obama’s secret Muslim One-World-Govt’ troops) more than they care to protect your non-Constitutional right to go to a movie and not get shot in the head by a lunatic.

    Lately, when people say that violent media causes violence, I just want to repeat ‘Fantasy isn’t reality” to them, over and over, until they realize how stupid they are.

    P.S. Bob, if you do ever get some real arguments, a hall-filled sack of clues and a shooting/presentation style of your own, try breathing. It improves spoken-word presentation substantively.

    J.

  • Ghost of Kazan

    Substitute “violent” with “racist” or “homophobic” and watch the arguments start doing backflips.

  • Rashad

    Because right now, our Constitution’s being overseen and interpreted by a group of people who, on a regular basis, split 5-4 along party lines to protect some stranger’s right to buy and stockpile and use lethal power toys for their amusement and other’s profit

    So it’s only “right now” this has happened, and not something proven in cases since the 1800s?

  • James Rocchi

    Rashad — Huh?

  • Rashad

    The point is, it’s not a new occurrence that the Supreme Court upholds the 2nd amendment. However, mass shootings are a more recent phenomenon, and it just so happens to coincide with violent entertainment becoming more pervasive in pop culture. Whether there’s a link is irrelevant, but it’s not just a case of blaming gun rights.

  • deadman

    When did James Rocchi get out of jail?

  • James Rocchi

    Rashad: You’re wrong.

    The Second’s interpretation as an individual right is a very new development, as is the focus on it being an unrestrained and untouched ‘Right,” even though there are plenty of other rights we balance or explain or discuss as a compromise. The NRA has done this, and the NRA has, in that aim, won in the past forty years. See Jill Lepore’s excellent reporting (http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/04/23/120423fa_fact_lepore) if you’d like some facts.

    Also, there’s not a rise in violent entertainment — have you read Madea? Titus Andronicus? — there’s a rise in the firepower, availability and magazine-capacity of guns. If you feel like talking about this more with your real name, go ahead, But right now you’re as tedious as you are anonymous, and as ill-informed as you are ill-spoken.

    J.

  • PastePotPete

    Is it really ripped off from Zero Punctuation? That’s an Escapist site too. Seems more like trade dress to me. And it’s not even that similar, just the pacing really.

  • Eloi Wrath

    Did Rocchi even watch the video?

    MovieBob is a good dude. Rocchi is an incredible asshole.

  • James Rocchi

    I did watch the video. It’s ranting over still images, and poorly thought-out ranting at that.

    And, really, a ‘good Dude” can be wrong, just as “an incredible asshole” can be right.I mean, are you even thinking about this argument or just going with who you know? Also, you have a fake name, so, you’re a coward and irrelevant. Later.

    J.

  • Eloi Wrath

    I had to laugh at this Rocchi gem:

    “First, it’s style is clearly jacked/rippedoff from Zero Punctuation’s far superior game reviews.”

    OH NO! Not ZERO PUNCTUATION’S GAME REVIEWS! How dare he plagiarize that storied institution?

    Ira: “(D.Z. comes in with a sack lunch. He finds a seat.)”

    For some reason this had me laughing like an asshole.

    E.

  • Eloi Wrath

    Rocchi: But what is so wrong about Bob’s argument? You’ve gone off on a rant about politics, but Bob doesn’t address that for the reasons he outlined above. He was looking at the link between art and violence, and seems to conclude that no amount of censorship can possibly prevent the mind of a madman from being inspired to commit violent acts. What’s so illogical about that position? Seems pretty reasonable to me, and well presented.

    “Also, you have a fake name, so, you’re a coward and irrelevant.”

    Would you like my address, too? My social security number? What proofs of identity would you like me to provide before I can post on the internet? If I changed my user name to John Smith would that make a difference? Stupid argument. You’re a writer, you’re paid to attach your name to your published thoughts. I’m an asshole looking at Wells’ site during a lunch break at work. I don’t particularly want my boss or future employers to read my thoughts on The Avengers or Paul Dano or flourescent shoes or any of the other shit we discuss here. That’s not cowardly; it’s just common sense. The things we are discussing here are not important enough that my real name is required.

  • Ghost of Kazan

    “Ira: (D.Z. comes in with a sack lunch. He finds a seat.)”

    I’m with Eloi on this, good stuff. However I think Ira got one little detail wrong:

    http://tinyurl.com/bu7rnvg

  • Ghost of Kazan

    Also, claiming that censorship is a moot point because it wouldn’t affect anything is a chickenshit position and the sort of attitude that actually justifies censorship in cases where there IS a perceived link.

  • James Rocchi

    Eloi noted: “Im an asshole looking at Wells’ site during a lunch break at work. I don’t particularly want my boss or future employers to read my thoughts on The Avengers or Paul Dano or flourescent shoes or any of the other shit we discuss here. That’s not cowardly; it’s just common sense. The things we are discussing here are not important enough that my real name is required.”

    But that’s exactly why you should use your real name — because too often, ‘blowing off steam’ turns into rudeness and racism and sexism, behind the coward’s shield. (See Also: Lex G.) You’re not blowing the lid off of secret assassination squads or inferior concrete at nuclear plans: You’re a guy talking about movies. Act like a grown-up and do it under your name.

    J.

  • Rashad

    The Second’s interpretation as an individual right is a very new development

    No it isn’t. The earliest case which cited the right for individuals, was in 1886, and mentioned as early as 1857.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_case_law_in_the_United_States#Firearm_Owners_Protection_Act_court_rulings

    And comparing reading Shakespeare, to actually shooting and killing people in video games is absurd. The military even uses video games as training, and recruiting, tools, but what do I know. I’m a partially anonymous asshole.

  • James Rocchi

    There’s a difference between citation and aggressively modifying policy.

    Also, no matter how violent videogames get, I have yet to see an Xbox or PS3 controller that shoots 60 real bullets a second.

    And yes, you’re anonymous and irrelevant.

    J.

  • Ghost of Kazan

    How can one cite before one interprets?

    So much for the “my video game went off accidentally” defense.

  • Redbeard

    Nice of James to step of an exemplify the type of “you’re an idiot for even considering that it’s worth DISCUSSING, fuck youuuuu!” zealotry Bob mentioned.

  • Redbeard

    Also kinda funny how he selected to answer only Eloi’s question about annonymity, and ignored what seemed to be a rather rational summation of the argument presented in the video.

    One can use their real name, and STILL be a royal douchenozzle.

  • James Rocchi

    As per Bob’s video, I’ll tell you why it’s boring, bland, and irrelevant:

    It’s someone saying “I understand both sides of the argument, and I don’t know what to do!”

    The argument is easily understood by people of intelligence on one side, and greedy insecure murderers on the other. And Something can be done.

    Also, Zero Punctuation’s game reviews work in this style because they’re silly game reviews. This guy is trying to talk about death and art like the mustachio’d guy from the ’80s FedEx commercials.

    J.

  • Eloi Wrath

    “Also, Zero Punctuation’s game reviews work in this style because they’re silly game reviews.”

    Yet you just told us we should all use our real names and “act like a grown up” when discussing silly movies.

  • James Rocchi

    Movies aren’t silly, Eloi. I take ‘em seriously. And guns and death are very serious; if Zero Punctuation tried this, it’d fall flat. And you know that.

  • Eloi Wrath

    “Movies aren’t silly, Eloi. I take ‘em seriously.”

    Evidently. But not all of us take them as seriously as you do, which is why we’re quite happy to converse about them using made-up names and not feel like the conversation is any less valid because of that.

    “And guns and death are very serious; if Zero Punctuation tried this, it’d fall flat. And you know that.”

    Well, I don’t really know anything about Zero Punctuation. But hey. MovieBob’s been doing this style for a while now. I don’t see why he should suddenly slow his speech down and play Barber’s Adagio for Strings in the background to communicate the SERIOUS NATURE of the topic. He’s discussing an issue relating to the movies on his weekly movie video thing. I don’t see why this relatively piece from him has brought you out in a frothing rage all pissed that the guy had the nerve to express his opinion.

  • Rashad

    I prefer Bob’s videos over Yahtzee’s. More interesting (haven’t cared about games in a while), and humorous without being trying too hard. (Bob has his too hard moments, but not too often.) Plus he’s American,and does not have aurally displeasing English accent, thank you very much.

  • Jesse Crall

    Hey, James Rocchi: I’m using my real name, so I guess I have permission to say that you sound like an asshole.

    J.

  • The Thing

    James, you have to understand something – the audience MovieBob is seen by is 14-26 year old males who go to the Escapist for video game news, reviews, etc. It’s not the New York Times. It needs to be humorous if not funny, because the people that are most likely to see it don’t want to hear discussion on how Bob didn’t like the aspect ratio and how the mise en scene was horrible in every frame.

    As for ripping Yahtzee reviews, I would say that it’s similar, but not completely ripped off. Yahtzee does a lot more in terms of original animation (kind of), while MovieBob uses pre-made pictures and still/clips from whatever he’s talking about or related to what he’s talking about. It’d be like saying that Nightmare on Elm Street is a rip off of Friday the 13th.

  • scooterzz

    anyone who has ever had to endure james rocchi at a press conference or (worse) a roundtable interview has to laugh at him calling someone else an asshole….
    even the talent mocks him…

  • Raising_Kaned

    I was going to respond to some of “J’s” (WTF is he — a MIB agent??) claims here — but it’s really not worth it and it looks like most of them have been reasonably debunked by now, anyway (the anonymity thing, in particular, is SUCH a tired Internet-argument — roughly the same intellectual sphere as using, “Well, what have you directed?” as a counter-criticism to a film’s merits).

    You say that movies are serious, yet games aren’t? As an art form, maybe (that’s a tricky and somewhat complicated argument) — but I’d give it a little time, too. Just from a business standpoint alone, I can tell you damn sure that people are taking them seriously, though (as an industry, gaming has almost caught movies from a revenue standpoint POV). And just because someone decides to have a little fun with the format doesn’t necessarily mean they’re taking the subject matter lightly — the two things are not mutually exclusive.

    Anyway, I digress. If you’re ever in the Ohio Valley, free free to look me up sometime — I’m actually posting under my “real” name on here (crazy, I know…)!

  • James Rocchi

    To scooterz, kaned, jesse and others, please note:

    http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/2012/08/underwhelmed_so.php

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