Bane’s voice comparison (IMAX prologue vs… by mrstevenrichter
I feel like Nolan put the re-dubbed voice right at the top of the mix almost as a fuck you.
The re-dub’s better.
Man. thank goodness they re-dubbed. The first version is a disaster.
I’ll come back later. Not watching a thirty second ad for ninety seconds of content.
Not watching this based on Wells’ headline — I’m no idiot. *I* know the difference between Bain Capital Private Equity and Bain Capital Ventures.
IMHO, Bain’s voice was awful in both versions. In the IMAX teaser scene, I couldn’t understand a word he said, but in the movie mix, it sounded so fake and oddly mixed, that it took me out of the scene every time he spoke.
Did he supposedly have speakers and reverb built into that mask?
Sorry, Bain = Bane. Thanks a lot Jeff.
Thought Bane’s voice was a really interesting choice, and maybe it’s because my wife works in audio post and we spend a good deal of our time discussing and examining these things, but I could hear everything he said the first time around.
Frankly, I think the re-dub sounds absolutely awful, not just how it sits in the mix (like it is coming through some sort of PA system) but also the general performance of the scene. The original performance was much more low key, much more assured, and much more evocative as a result. Bane doesn’t really say much that speaks to the larger plot, so the scene works even if you can’t hear everything he says. I know people are MUCH less likely to accept audio issues than picture issues, but I still would have left it. Most people will see it twice anyway, so get it all the second time.
I also thought that Bane’s line “Nobody cared who I was until I put on the mask” brought up a really interesting notion, and something I expected to see as at least a cursory thematic element, but that was not really investigated in the larger body of the film. Looking at the 3 films, Wayne assumes the Batman mask to deal with the issues of his childhood and overcome his feeling of guilt and remorse. The Joker seems to be completely defined by his ‘mask’, going so far as to remover any significance from the back story of how it came to be. I thought the 3rd film would weave in the notion that Bane literally can’t survive without his mask, a mirror image of Bruce Wayne perhaps, but again, no dice.
I think that Bane was criminally underused in the film, especially after the magisterial, breathtaking opening.
Both voices are really hard to understand, but I like that the final theatrical version was clarified somewhat, even if it isn’t mixed in particularly well. Watching TDKR in the theater, I could only understand 60% of the dialogue anyway.
Nolan also dubbed in the voices of the bank-robbing clowns in the opening scene of The Dark Knight (I suspect – certainly seems that way). I think it’s a great effect. Makes the voices seem slightly disembodied, and you can also cast voice actors with great, unique voices to give even more character to the…uh, character.
So much of Tom Hardy’s performance is in Bane’s voice. I thought it was a great choice and extremely effective.
Lapeyre: the Imax camera is very noisy and makes the live dialogue recordings very difficult to use in the soundtrack, so this is not so much a stylistic decision than a technical limitations.
I agree that the resulting dubs in the Dark Knight work very well and make it larger than life.
His voice was awesome. Only Giovanni Ribisi has done something interesting as a villain with his voice, like Hardy did. Props to him.
*with his voice … recently*
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