Andrew Sullivan: I was only wrong in sensing that the Republican party might just have the good grace and patriotism to cooperate with an incoming president…in the worst recession since the 1930s. I’m sorry, but they set out to destroy this guy from the get-go. Of all the countries in the world…we’ve done better [in recovering from the ’08 meltdown] than any western country over the last three years.”

Current‘s David Shuster tweeted yesterday afternnoon that “GOP attendee [has been] ejected for throwing nuts at African American CNN camerawoman + saying ‘This is how we feed animals.'” Convention organizers actually said that two GOP-ers were ejected for same.

A convention spokesperson responded as follows: “We regret to say that our electoral base is partly compromised of racist assholes, but what do you want us to say or do? We need to be cool or at least at par with these jerks in order to get elected and stay in office.” Kidding!

Convention organizers in fact said that “two attendees tonight exhibited deplorable behavior. Their conduct was inexcusable and unacceptable. This kind of behavior will not be tolerated.”

CNN’s statement: “CNN can confirm there was an incident directed at an employee inside the Tampa Bay Times Forum earlier this afternoon. CNN worked with convention officials to address this matter and will have no further comment.”

  • PastePotPete

    Cue the usual equivocating bullshit. “Oh yeah, well at an Obama rally three years ago one of the hippies called Bush a Nazi! I’d rather be called an animal than a Nazi!”

  • Mr. F.

    It’s a sad, sad day when all you have to do to be accused of racism is to throw peanuts at a black woman and call her an animal.


  • Mr. F.

    To be fair, it may have had nothing at all to do with her race, but the fact that she works for CNN. And I think we can all agree that Piers Morgan is an animal.

  • nakedman

    Where is Travis? Funny how he vanishes when even HE is ashamed of his party.

  • Captain EO

    Liked Mr. Sullivan’s grayish trainers, as well as his comments, on the Colbert show (hehe). This will be a crazy election year…

  • Scylax

    Travis is harmless. It’s that pederast Duluoz Grey that you have to watch out for.

  • Ghost of Kazan

    Almost all of the republicans I know are much more disturbed by this sort of episode than most democrats are when Occupy protestors do the same thing to black conservatives.

  • GeorgePrager

    How are Occupy protestors (who are protesting the Democrats as well as the Republicans and everything in between) the same as Republican party delegates at a Republican National Convention? And who are these “black conservatives” that “Occupy protestors” (and who are they?) did “the same thing to”?

  • Travis Actiontree

    I think it’s racism.

  • Ghost of Kazan

    Obviously there are differences. I’m not comparing the offenders, I’m comparing the response. It’s interesting how one group gets tainted with behavior they despise and denounce, and the other group is supposedly morally superior but makes excuses for the same behavior when it regularly comes from the left.

  • cyanic

    Minority (secular, ethnic, race, sexual preference) conservatives, are the bisexuals and transgender people of politics, they exist to confuse the conversation and add nothing to society except something unwanted and unpleasant.

  • mizerock

    “you lefties are such hypocrites, you say you want tolerance and then you won’t tolerate my racism!”

    I’ve seen my Democratic friends say negative things about African-American individuals. Stuff like, “her foreign policy ideas are counter-productive”, and “his tax plan will lead to even more income inequality in the future”. I have yet to see anyone from “my group” throw things at a person (of any ethnicity!) or make any kind of demeaning, easy-to-interpret-as-barely-concealed-racist gestures.

    Probably I just didn’t read enough coverage of the Occupy camps, surely there were a number of kooks in that crowd, people who literally wandered in off of the streets and are only borderline functional in society. I don’t see how those type of people are the proper analogue to elected members of the RNC delegation.

    Do you really expect members of the DNC performs “the same behavior” at their convention? Surely you’ll be able to find someone saying something inappropriate and rude about banking CEOs or Mitt Romney himself. But performing demeaning / threatening acts towards a stranger, based solely on their race? What would be the equivalent? Cornering someone from FoxNews and throwing play money at them? Or finding a member of LDS and pouring booze and coffee on them? Really, do you really think that liberals have the equivalent xenophobic hatred that comes out when rich white men get permission to let loose?

    Maybe I’m just not seeing your point the way you mean it.

  • Mr. F.

    “I don’t see how those type of people are the proper analogue to elected members of the RNC delegation. Do you really expect members of the DNC perform “the same behavior” at their convention?”

    To be clear, we don’t know the identity of these two people, and whether or not they were delegates. Given security at the convention, I would suspect they weren’t just random folks who got in, looking to cause trouble and discredit Republicans… but until we know more, you can’t say they were “delegates.”

    “But performing demeaning / threatening acts towards a stranger, based solely on their race?”

    If you replace the word “race” with “sexual orientation,” would it at all surprise you? The nominee knows a little about that, firsthand…

  • Ghost of Kazan

    cynaic’s comment sounds vaguely anti-bisexual/transgender. I’m also curious if he thinks a black conservative is more “unwanted and unpleasant” than a white conservaive.

  • Ghost of Kazan

    By the way, I’m not trying to defend republicans. I still remember the vile way many of their delegates acted (and we KNOW these were delegates) toward Jim Kolbe.

  • mizerock

    Thanks for your well-reasoned clarifications, Mr. F.

  • Ghost of Kazan

    I should clarify…I’m not trying to defend republicans from well-reasoned attacks, but I AM willing to defend them from attempts to paint the whole bunch with stereotypes based on this incident. Anyone who does is a hypocrite.

  • mizerock

    Wow, if you were looking for evidence that someone can be a “lefty” and still throw around hateful language, all you had to do was look at the first line in the last post.

    “Governor Fat Fattie”? As if it’s his weight that makes him someone you wouldn’t vote for? Huh.

  • cyanic

    @ Kazan

    My comments weren’t vague they are anti-bisexual/transgender.

    I use to have a major problem with black conservatives till I realized they can’t catch a break on either side. Sure their white counterparts appreciate their support but only parade them out to prove their not prejudice. They have no real power in their group.

  • Ghost of Kazan

    Are you one of these fellows that demonizes Obama for being “white power in black face”? Because that’s where such reasoning leads.

    I’d love to hear more about your views on bi/trans people. I mean that seriously. I’m thinking it’s a perspective that I don’t often hear. I remember you had some aversion to Lana Wachowski.

  • cyanic

    I love Barack Obama as a black person because the importance of his presidency is greater than I can express in words that makes sense to non-black Americans. As a Liberal, I have as much frustration and anger about what he’s not doing or how he’s going about doing it as anyone else.

    I know I should be embarrassed about my views on the transgender but I can’t. They’re not the gender they claim they are, if you’re born male that’s not a biological mistake, but you’re mental wiring likely is. The whole hormones, surgery, drag, and the PC make-believe game angers me. I’m gay and I know people use the Bible or whatever reasons against me, but I feel I have science on my side and the history of gay contribution to society to backup my value.

  • Ghost of Kazan

    Thanks for indulging me. I’m a big believer that people are who they are, and if they don’t fit into a “typical” category then more power to them. But I do wonder sometimes about the ways that the transgendered so often rely on – and reinforce – gender stereotypes to define their identity, instead of expanding them.

    I have similar concerns about people who think in primarily racialized terms. Some of the most conservative-minded people in my neighborhood are first- and second-generation immigrants of color who run small businesses. It bothers me that so much political rhetoric – especially from the left – acts as if these people are either invisible or are not in their “proper place.”

  • cyanic

    Are you a Libertarian?

  • Ghost of Kazan

    Socially, yes. Economically, only in part. As a political party, no way in hell.

    Wish I hadn’t stepped away for a bit right before your reply. Thread is probably dead now.

  • Travis Actiontree

    I think that it’s great that we elected a black man as President of the United States. I also think that it’s great that we held him to the same standards as anyone else who’s held the office, that is, the opposition has pummeled him, just like they would anyone else, as opposed to treating him like a Ming vase like liberals would like to do. (“Everyone gets a trophy!”)

  • bitplaya

    Travis the vitrol was crazy. People kissed Bush’s ass until the very end of his first term. Honestly whoever raises the most money wins.