And there we go, folks. The film presents that scene nearly 90 minutes in, I believe, and prior to this the Maya character has been on a slow-burn, build up to this release. Note how young and unadorned Chastain appears here in contrast to her other screen work. The character and movie are truly investigatory brass tacks — no goosing to be found.
Unfortunately I’m with Serge. Everything I’ve seen about this makes me think of the kind of War on Terror TV that came out 2003-04 like The Private Lynch story.
United 93 is still the only post 9/11 movie that doesn’t have that made for TV vibe to me.
I haven’t seen ZDT but comments here and other places from people who have seem to be giving off a kind of Zodiac vibe with Chastain being obsessed with taking down an evil fucker like the Jake Gyllenhaal character.and while Zodiac was a masterful bit of film, it really had no chance of taking home the big prize. Too much thought had to be invested in the minutiae of the investigation for the average moviegoer or oscar voter. After the wins of The Kings Speech and The Artist I just can’t see a ZDT win. .Prediction .Les Miz
Using the acronym ZDT to describe this movie is obviously just a cheap attempt to cash-in on Daniel Zelter — and, by proxy, his hero (and illegitimate father) Satoshi Kon.
Sorry that even though none of you have seen the film
you have already determined that it is “cheesy,” “terrible” and like “a TV movie” — it is none of those things.
>U93: Terror-porn fantasy rah-rah speculative fiction about mass murder.
Christ, you can’t just stick the word ‘porn’ after everything to delegitimize it.
Yes, it’s about mass murder, and yes, it’s (partly) speculative. So what? 9/11 happened, just as World War II or the Renaissance happened, and is fair game for narrative interpretation. United 93 is a work of storytelling that actually manages to be equal, on some level, to the great trauma (so far) of 21st century American existence.
“United 93 is a work of storytelling that actually manages to be equal, on some level, to the great trauma (so far) of 21st century American existence.”
It’d be hard work to unpack the levels of obscenity in this sentence.
I think it’s safe to say that he meant it’s equal to the task, not equal to the experience. Said task being to make a respectful and intelligent film about the event.
Look, I actually agree that United 93 isn’t as good as the reviews said at the time. But my point was at least it worked like a film, rather than TV movie of the week.
Some critic once wrote that any movie based on current events needs to answer the question “Why is this story best told through drama?” rather than a book, article, or even a documentary. I’m not getting the answer here. Is the marketing just leaving out all of the interesting parts?
This isn’t worth getting into a pissing contest about with a bunch of malcontents who haven’t seen the film but Cerulean may well be an acting teacher so I will bite — what exactly is “overacting” about that clip? If you knew anything about the character, at all, you would know why she appears “big” at this one an only juncture of the film in an otherwise very understated performance. But since generalities like “cheesy” and “overacting” have been levied let’s hear exactly why they are so.
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And there we go, folks. The film presents that scene nearly 90 minutes in, I believe, and prior to this the Maya character has been on a slow-burn, build up to this release. Note how young and unadorned Chastain appears here in contrast to her other screen work. The character and movie are truly investigatory brass tacks — no goosing to be found.
Out of context, I’m sorry, this is kind of silly. It’s some redhead going loco on Coach Taylor. Eh.
Isn’t bringing up the word homeland just going to remind people of that Claire Danes show?
Unfortunately I’m with Serge. Everything I’ve seen about this makes me think of the kind of War on Terror TV that came out 2003-04 like The Private Lynch story.
United 93 is still the only post 9/11 movie that doesn’t have that made for TV vibe to me.
I don’t know DZ, what does your so-called life make you think of?
Disconap: An emo rip-off of Blossom?
I should also add that shitty Princess Mononoke dub, but I’ll just link this CH parody, instead.
I haven’t seen ZDT but comments here and other places from people who have seem to be giving off a kind of Zodiac vibe with Chastain being obsessed with taking down an evil fucker like the Jake Gyllenhaal character.and while Zodiac was a masterful bit of film, it really had no chance of taking home the big prize. Too much thought had to be invested in the minutiae of the investigation for the average moviegoer or oscar voter. After the wins of The Kings Speech and The Artist I just can’t see a ZDT win. .Prediction .Les Miz
I’m rooting against Lesbian Miserables because I prefer my gay people happy.
That dialogue is terrible. So cheesy.
Using the acronym ZDT to describe this movie is obviously just a cheap attempt to cash-in on Daniel Zelter — and, by proxy, his hero (and illegitimate father) Satoshi Kon.
Sorry that even though none of you have seen the film
you have already determined that it is “cheesy,” “terrible” and like “a TV movie” — it is none of those things.
You’ll see.
I saw the movie yesterday. bobbyperu is right.
And DZ, isn’t bringing up the word Kakihara just going to remind people of that Tadanobu Asano movie?
I’m assuming this is her Oscar clip? Hell of a lot more impressive than any single scene that J Law is in in SLP
Tthis is basically The Silence of the Lambs as an intel-wonk’s thriller; substitute waterboarding for “fava beans and a nice chianti.”
Most impressive actor is Jason Clarke as the main CIA asshole torturer.
(admittedly it’s not as vile as UNITED 93, but what could be?)
Tits.
If we could get bill weber to explain why he thinks UNITED 93 is “vile”, we might be able to double the comment count.
Overacting 101. Hope this bag of cheese isn’t her Oscar clip. Clare Daines from Homeland would act circles around this chick.
Count me with Ghoast- what’s vile?
Maybe bill weber prefers this version of the story:
http://vimeo.com/34150493
U93: Terror-porn fantasy rah-rah speculative fiction about mass murder.
thevisceral: Tits indeed. Can’t believe Chastain didn’t make the Mr. Skin Top 10 this year for Lawless.
>U93: Terror-porn fantasy rah-rah speculative fiction about mass murder.
Christ, you can’t just stick the word ‘porn’ after everything to delegitimize it.
Yes, it’s about mass murder, and yes, it’s (partly) speculative. So what? 9/11 happened, just as World War II or the Renaissance happened, and is fair game for narrative interpretation. United 93 is a work of storytelling that actually manages to be equal, on some level, to the great trauma (so far) of 21st century American existence.
Lincoln: legislative-porn
The Longest Day: combat-porn
The Killing Fields: genocide-porn
JFK: schizophrenia-porn
Signs: corn-porn
“United 93 is a work of storytelling that actually manages to be equal, on some level, to the great trauma (so far) of 21st century American existence.”
It’d be hard work to unpack the levels of obscenity in this sentence.
I think it’s safe to say that he meant it’s equal to the task, not equal to the experience. Said task being to make a respectful and intelligent film about the event.
Look, I actually agree that United 93 isn’t as good as the reviews said at the time. But my point was at least it worked like a film, rather than TV movie of the week.
Some critic once wrote that any movie based on current events needs to answer the question “Why is this story best told through drama?” rather than a book, article, or even a documentary. I’m not getting the answer here. Is the marketing just leaving out all of the interesting parts?
This isn’t worth getting into a pissing contest about with a bunch of malcontents who haven’t seen the film but Cerulean may well be an acting teacher so I will bite — what exactly is “overacting” about that clip? If you knew anything about the character, at all, you would know why she appears “big” at this one an only juncture of the film in an otherwise very understated performance. But since generalities like “cheesy” and “overacting” have been levied let’s hear exactly why they are so.
Agree with bobby. Out of context this clip could seem a bit cheesy. Within its place in the film the scene works very well.
Zero Dark Thirty. All the yelling they left out of Fair Game.
Ghost of Ghost, maybe I’m just bored on a Saturday morning, but I’m curious: what would you have put forth as porn-porn?
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