The first one was way too long, but I liked it more than I expected to. Glad they’re not showing too much of the dragon at this stage. It looks like a lot of the padding that’s stretched this out to 3 unnecessary movies will appear in the third one, so that’s the one I can skip.
Have to admit the same. I went purely to see the 48 fps – it was a really tiresome at times, but I found the last act or so tremendously entertaining
I don’t like Peter Jackson’s prediliction for bloat, but give the devil his due. He’s about as good at this epic fantasy stuff as you can be. I think the thing that impresses me most is that his combat scenes are clear and easy to follow, without having to resort to slo-mo tricks like Snyder. No mean feat considering out huge some of those scenes are.
Actually, it looks like most of the non-Tolkien padding comes in this movie, with the Legolas/Evangeline Lilly-stuff taking place, etc., against the backdrop of the Mirkwood chapters of the novel.
The last film is gonna be where the really big, epic stuff from the book occurs (Bilbo’s infiltration of the mountain, the bulk of Smaug’s scenes, the Battle of Five Armies). That’s the one I’m looking forward to.
I really hope they don’t leave the bulk of Smaug until the third movie. I had understood that most of the padding, aside from Radegast and Legolas, had to do with Gandalf finding the Necromancer (also voiced by Cumberbatch) and flushing him out of Mirkwood. I was hoping this movie would end with Smaug’s fate and the next would take up all the SW prequel-ly stuff that I don’t think should have been added at all.
The Necromancer storyline is everything but padding. it’s crucial to the world of Middle Earth. What could arguably be considered padding is the Legolas apparent romance with the elf girl.
By padding, I mean everything that didn’t appear in The Hobbit itself, including the appendices or stuff they just made up. The Necromancer stuff is important to the history of Middle Earth, but has no bearing whatsoever on the plot of the novel.
Well, I don’t really agree with that definition of padding in the context of this film series. it’s pretty clear what they’re doing. There is padding, I just thing your putting that stamp on the wrong things.
I know what they’re doing. They’re using the Tolkien material to which they have the rights to stretch The Hobbit into three 3-hour movies. This is a book that made a nice, self-contained 90-minute cartoon back in the 70s. They used the LOTR appendices, which are merely descriptions of events with no actual plot. They had to go this route because the Tolkien estate was so upset with Jackson’s LOTR trilogy that they refused to license any other works, like The Silmarillion, to New Line. If it had been done for aesthetic reasons, I wouldn’t consider addition the non-Hobbit stuff padding. But, like Harry Potter, I consider splitting the movie to be unnecessary.
The necromancerstoryline is all of three lines of dialogue in the original novel.
The Legolas/Tinuviel romance is padding. Expanding to include a very important part of the Tolkien Universe of which there is extensive notes on (LOTR Appendices, etc) is not padding.
I’m more or less fine with them crafting a Legolas romance out of thin air, not thrilled with them making it evocative of the Aragorn/Arwen romance in LOTR.
“The Hobbit” reminded me the “Star Wars” prequels – not that it was as catastrophic as those, but echoes of the same problems that occur when the driving force (Jackson/Lucas) is beyond criticism or pushback from the production team. The story is a lighter one than LOTR, but too much of the action was Loony Tunes-level cartoonish and the swing between humor and drama was not nearly as well-balanced as the last set of films.
I have higher hopes for this film.
Not the Star Wars prequels. Those are objectively godawful. This is more like the Star Trek TOS sequels. Not that much distance between the best and the worst, really, but it’s kind of pleasant and comfy to have even a second-rate visit from your old friends every year.
48fps D.O.A. mentioned nowhere.
Right at the end, blink and you miss it: “HFR 3D”
Good catch. I’ll be curious if the number of HFR 3D screens will be higher or lower than last year’s release.
Does anybody care about (or even know) any of the characters in THE HOBBIT that were not previously introduced in the first trilogy? The characters and their “quest” are absolutely empty and boring.
Also, a romance featuring a heavily-CG’d Orlando Bloom sounds grotesque and, judging by this preview, will likely be just as skin-crawling as it sounds.
The only lasting legacy of the first HOBBIT movie for me is came with the weirdest theater distraction I’ve encountered in ages: Some dude KNITTED during the movie. With like clacking needles. I spent the first hour thinking some douche had brought a fork and knife for some sneaked-in food bonanza, but nope, it was a guy with those big-ass KNITTING NEEDLES like Laurie Strode stabbed Michael Myers with. And loud as that movie was, I still heard this douchebag clacking through the whole movie, even after I moved 2 rows to get the fuck away from it. As with every absurd distraction like that, none of the 20 other people sitting much closer to the called him on it or shushed it. Maybe he can whip up a sweater during the sequel.
I almost want to see this for Evangeline Lilly. Almost.
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