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Ellen Page is great but miscast

Posted by Jeffrey Wells on December 16, 2007 at 09:03 AM

Ellen Page's Juno performance is highly likable and sympathetic. You're with her from the get-go because of her indefatigable spunk and pizazz. But the first time I saw Juno (at the Toronto Film Festival), I had a thought that wouldn't leave me alone. It's going to sound a little oddball but here it is. My first thought was "how and why did Page's character get pregnant?"


More to the point, why did director Jason Reitman cast an actress based on her sass and spirit, but with no regard for the fact that in the real world a young woman who looks like Page -- midget-sized, scrawny, looking like a feisty 11 year-old with absolutely nothing about her that says "alluring breeding-age female" -- most likely wouldn't exactly be fighting off the attentions of hormonally-crazed teenage boys, including nice-guy dweebs like Michael Cera's character?

Unfortunate pregnancies happen to young girls of all shapes and sizes -- obviously, sadly -- but I kept saying to myself (and I'm writing this having once been 16 and 17 years old) that Page is the super-bright girl you want for a good friend -- someone you can talk to at 12:30 ayem on a school night when you're depressed or in trouble or enthusing over a band you just heard. But she's not what any teenaged boy would call a hot package. She's got the soul and the wit and the attitude of a Dorothy Parker (and the value that comes with such a person is priceless), but Juno is about an accidental breeder, and certain qualities need to be evident for this to happen in most circumstances.

Every time I've seen a too-young pregnant girl in real life I've quietly remarked to myself for this or that reason, "Too bad, but I can sorta see how that happened." I'm just saying it didn't quite calculate when I first laid eyes on Page. I've been sitting on this impression for three months now, and didn't express it because I knew people would call me a dog. But it's a fair thing to say, I think. Page is great on her own, but she doesn't seem right for the role. Or rather, she's right in every way except physically.

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Having seen the film, I seemed a lot like a friendship thing that went a little too far. The two character were good friends who got a little bored one afternoon. Juno wanted attention, the boy wanted some sex, and bingo, baby! Having been that age not too recently, it seems ridiculously plausible.

Your point basically makes no sense because Juno being pregnant does not require her to be fighting off the advances or many (or even, given how it actually happens, any!) boys. For the purposes of the movie, she has to have sex once. So what you're really saying is that it's hard to believe that ANYONE would want to have sex with Ellen Page. Anyone. Including sixteen-year-old boys, who I'm not sure are the most discerning.

You'd really find it hard to buy that a sixteen-year-old who looks like Michael Cera would want to have sex with a sixteen-year-old who looks like Ellen Page? I thought your dwelling on a drunken Heigl/Rogen hook-up in Knocked Up was a little silly (given that the mismatchiness was a large part of the comedy *and* drama, and that characters in the movie clearly called attention to the attractiveness differences)... but this is even more of a stretch.

I mean, I personally find Ellen Page really cute; the fact that she looks really young is the only real limiter to that attraction (knowing she's 20 and then also seeing that she can pass for 16, I mean). So if I were sixteen and not twenty-seven, I don't think that would be a problem. The whole point of Juno's character is that she's charming as hell rather than traditionally flirty or slutty or whatever.

Beyond that: When I was in high school, I saw plenty of far less attractive girls who were pregnant.

Ahhh, when the hit-count runs low it's clearly time to take a trip to Crazy Land with one of those "What the fuck?" posts.

C'mon, man, at least make 'em a little harder to spot.

She could totally get laid

Jeffrey is, as usual, informed only by his own predilections and prejudices. Is it a surprise that a person so taken by vanity -- his, celebrities', blue staters', red staters' lacking -- would believe that high schools are filled only with people like himself who value only the attractive and popular?

Most obvious is that Jeffrey's never noticed that high schools have these things called marching bands...

Next thing you'll tell us Hard Candy wasn't credible because there's no way a paedophile would've found her attractive.

Broadway Else-Whence, by J. Pierpoint Wells, 1912:

"I am in accordance with the contrivances of Mr. Griffith's new Photo-Play A Girl of the Shropshires except in one circumstance: the casting of Miss Mary Pickford as the comely lass who Lord Bellington comes to woo. To put it forthrightly, Miss Pickford is too short to convincingly portray the sort of young lady who would attract the attention of a nobleman seeking someone to bear his tall, sturdy heirs. Nor do her mannerisms-- which fall under the heading of "spunk," to use the term declared by Harper's Weekly as the new phrase of the year among the young bucks and fast young ladies of society-- seem to be the sort which would excite the nobleman's fancy, being entirely too forward and lacking entirely in the demureness which ignites a young man's fancy long enough to propel him to marriage. In short, I see little future for Miss Pickford outside the clothes-washing or governessing professions."

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Here's a better question. Does anyone buy that Jason Bateman would fall in love and break up his marriage (with Jennifer Garner, nonetheless) for Juno? THAT was the relationship that I didn't buy. And even if you buy it, wouldn't it be a more fruitful relationship if it just stayed largely unspoken?

Capital post, MGMax. Tip-top.

I haven't seen this so I can speak to how the film conveys any hints to how she came to be knocked-up, but as soon as Wells started listing all of her attributes I was instantly reminded of a friend I will be visiting in the next weeks while I am back East for the holidays.

This friend was also small of frame, very bright, spunky and the last person you would think it would happen to, but... mid-way through high school she looked exactly like Ellen Page.

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Also, I love how those who just rub their hands together with glee at the thought of bashing Wells deliberately overlook the fact he went out of his way to say that this was a personal reaction that he knows isn't going to be everyone else's. Agenda much?

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And kudos to Mgmax, that was sublime.

Patrick Wilson wanted to bang her in Hard Candy and I don't recall anyone listing a similar complaint about that film. Many other complaints, yes, but not that one.

I haven't seen Juno yet, but what immediately strikes me as implausible is how a character as supposedly intelligent and whip-smart as she would somehow forget the word "condom". Does the movie offer an explanation for that?

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Bowen, the relationship you're talking about actually was the definition of "largely unspoken." When is it ever spoken in the movie that Bateman's character is in love with her? Or that he allows those feelings to bust up his marriage? In fact, even looking at the implicit stuff, I don't think we're supposed to read it that way. But even if you read it that way, it sure as hell isn't spoken during the movie.

Ah, Broad-way Elsewhence. Sponsored by Uncle Strong Bad's Flavour Taste Style Chewing Powders, and Portly Washboy Laundry Paste.

Look lively!

Jeffrey has reached a level of maturity that he no longer finds 16-year-olds attractive. This is a good thing.

Jeff, you need to watch a few of those Maury Povich teen paternity shows.

I'd have fucked her when I was 16 and, knowing that the actor is in reality 20, I'd fuck her now. Wells, personal taste isn't the same thing as a TRUISM.

Wow, Wells either didn't see the movie or has completely forgotten it.

Recall Allison Janney's line: "Well, you know it wasn't his idea." Juno was the one who pushed for the sex, and Michael Cera simply decided to go along with it.

I'm 21 so I'm not too far removed from the age group in the film, so i jsut wanted to say a few things:

1. When I was younger it seemed that plenty of unattractive people were having sex and getting pregnant. Unattractive people have sex too.

2. That said, I think Ellen Page is pretty damn attractive. She doesn't have the body of a supermodel, but she's cute and exudes a killer personality. I think your problems are far more personal than anything else, and actually they are somewhat annoying. If an actor is right for a role they don't have to look like Charlize Thernon or Halle Berry. That's not what real people look like.

3. It's not like Channing Tatum or some stud is the guy who knocked her up. It's Michael Cera.

channeling the distant past, i seem to recall that a fair number of sexually active girls weren't in the top 50 percentile of sexually attractive girls. i also seem to recall that boys of a certain age, presented with an opportunity, were not all that selective.

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I'll agree that Juno isn't the sole cause of Bateman leaving his wife, although she seems to be a factor. But he comes onto her, which is what I was referring to. Which I think was not as interesting as other ways of dealing with the tension.

A slight shift of topic here: I really liked how Jennifer Garner's character was horrific/scary in her initial scenes and Jason Bateman's character was cool/likable, but then there's a total reversal later: we hate Bateman and cheer for Garner. And it's all done credibly, a combination of the "first impressions aren't always accurate" thing, truly complex characters, and the injection of Juno into the situation becoming a catalyst for the revelations (and morphing?) of those characters' true selves. All the characterization stuff was so dynamic and fresh.

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